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created_time: 2026-02-14T00:01:00.000Z
title: 02-13 Briefing: Church Administration Conflicts, Home Safety Projects, and National Policy Commentary
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Speaker 1 00:00:00
Trump, Clinton, Reagan, Carter,
Speaker 2 00:00:02
Obama and Biden. See the Iran before you walk through. I think you walk through the Reagan door that this is a challenge for the entire world. And every president, since nineteen seventy nine, has struggled with the Iranian regime and said, someday, this will get better. And it just gets worse and worse and worse for our United States, worse for the region and certainly worse for the people of Iran. We learned after nine eleven that when a far away, Islamic group of radicals says they want to kill Americans, they mean it. And. So we can't just ignore that and think that's going to at some point, get better.
Speaker 1 00:00:18
Now they've got big missiles that can go. I think two thousand kilometers, which is a long way, not quite to America, but they can threaten Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo, which is an American base basic threat in southern Europe. If they have anything like a dirty bomb, don't put it on there. What more do we need to know about this regime?
Speaker 2 00:00:28
Yeah, there's nothing else we need to know about this regime. But, they we have sent a very clear message that President Trump mailed to them and dropped down the chimney with those massive ordinance penetrators to take out their nuclear program. We thought we made it extremely clear you cannot have a nuclear weapon. Iran immediately said, "We're just going to restart our whole process all over again." Now it's not tomorrow, it is not the next day, But they've been very clear : " We ' re going to restart our nuclear weapons program and just keep going on this. " They've killed thousands of their own people, and they continue to threaten every one of our allies in the region. So we just can't have that. It just brings instability to the entire region. And the hard part is I wish I knew how this gets better, but we don't have good choices. We have in front of us, a bunch of bad choices, and we have to choose the least bad. And I know Mark Montgomery's right up there with Strike Group One. Before he told me that the window for Lincoln and its group is about three months till they have to pull off station and go home. There might be G W Bush behind it but What, do you think is the window for President Trump to act against Iran without losing credibility? I'm not sure this is about credibility of President Trump. I really think this is about American security. I really think it's about security in the region. He's going to have to go through the intelligence information that I also go through, The president's daily briefing is very similar to what I read on a regular basis as well, Be able to go through and be able to see what they actually are doing at that moment and how they're preparing and the threats that they're putting down. So this really needs to be not about Trump's credibility, it needs to be about the threat to Americans. Can we do more than demolish the missiles, Clean up whatever is left of the nuclear program and maybe hit some of the means of repression of IRGC? Is there a target list beyond that center?
Speaker 2 00:01:21
There are a lot of options the president has in front of him. And I would just leave it at that. The president has a ton of options that the Pentagon has spent a lot of time trying to be able to brainstorm out, what are the different possibilities here, what are the assets need to be in place? We have all the aircraft, We have all the assets that need to be in place, uh, to be able to carry out whatever the president chooses to be able to do. We're not looking for a war with Iranian people or with Iranian regime, but Iranian regime oppresses its own people and threatens United States and threatens on all our allies. We're trying to make that stop. The ultimate way to do that is through military action. But if we can stop that with diplomacy, we can stop it with economics, we can stop it out with sanctions, that's much better and so President's done hard sanctions, He's doing diplomacy. They're sitting down and being able negotiate things out. They did it last weekend. They're back at it again. They're trying to be able work this out diplomatically. That's the best possible solution. But again, when you have an aircraft carrier parked off coast that makes diplomacy a little easier. So he's trying to improve the opportunities for the ones here.
Speaker 1 00:01:53
I just can't see that working, we will see. Senator, turning to Cuba, uh I read the journal piece and every piece I can on Cuba. It appears that that regime is close to falling over. Are we prepared for that collapse?
Speaker 2 00:01:60
Yeah there, there are leaders that are here in the United States and in the region that are prepared to be able to step into Cuba if that regime were to collapse and be able to say, hey, I still care about the country of Cuba and their Cuban Americans are people that have longstanding connections that are there, uh believe in what their country could be and their family knows well, the prosperity of Cuba before communism destroyed it. And so I do think there's good leadership is there. It would do nothing would be hard to be able restart their very broken economy just by allowing energy and allowing free markets being able thrive. I mean they got physicians, driving taxi cabs because of communist regime there oppression. So you know, educated folks can step into gap. They've never had an opportunity because the communists just keep their thumb on them. All right, Senator, I want to move to Homeland Security. How much you serve on Friday night midnight tomorrow night midnight TSA goes out of funding as does FEMA. I think the Coast Guard ICE is funded Border Patrol's funded. What what's your perspective on that? How much inconvenience is that going to cause to Americans? It's going to be really really frustrating. Uh I will tell you the last time I came through TSA coming from beautiful Oklahoma City Airport flying back to cold D C. Uh. One of the TSA agents stopped me and said, I feel like my paycheck is bipolar. All of a sudden I just never know where it's going to be and what it's going to think it is when I was like I'm. So sorry, this is not my fault. In fact, I'm leading the bill to make sure this never happens again, where we have government shutdowns. But in the meantime, Democrats are so mad at Trump on ICE enforcement, how they're handling it, they they want this oversight, which we're getting.
Speaker 2 00:02:47
We were already just as enthusiastic about doing overtime. We got a tragedy that occurred uh that in in Minnesota. It requires a full investigation. We had a very robust hearing on it with folks from Minnesota today, folks from ICE, From CBP that were there uh to be able to talk through all the issues. We're getting a lot of documents. FBI's doing uh professional integrity is doing their own research. We're investigating all of that in the meantime. We're already on board with body worn cameras, we'd already agreed on that, We'd already agreed on de-escalation training to be able to work on techniques to be able to help those are things that are non-partisan issues that law enforcement wants, We want on it Democrats. What they're looking for now is irrational. They they want a sanctuary country. They want. They keep saying we want to have judicial warrants, which sounds good to people who don't know how the system actually works. Judicial warrants only are allowable for a very small sliver of people who are illegally present here. And also commit a federal additional recent crime. So murder, rape, Um you know, child molestation, all those things DWIs, they wouldn't count those as state crimes. Those folks would not be allowed to be able to be deported because they couldn't get the warrant for it. So careful what you hear from democrats saying we're wanting all judicial warrants. What, they're really saying is we can't go after any of the criminal illegals that are here from a state crime. So, we're pushing back hard on that saying, absolutely not that's not even rational uh, to be able to do that. And right now the democrats in their response is then we won't fund FEMA, we won't fund Coast Guard, we won't fund TSA, We won't fund cybersecurity. Uh we won't fund Secret Service I mean, all of those things are all wrapped up. And when you talk about CBP, they think about border enforcement. But CBP is also inspecting every package. All the fruits and vegetables that come across the border uh from Mexico. So if you like guacamole, okay, that's part of this.
Speaker 2 00:03:43
That has got to do all the inspections and things with it. So, it's very, very frustrating to be able to see what democrats are doing in their overreaction. Yeah, yeah, is I okay guys? I'll put it in November. I want to close senator by asking you. I got a note for the record that the finest olive cutters in the world come from Fallbrook or I won't be able to talk to my wife when we get home. Uh, I want now say , I want to ask you about, are you taking a victory lap as chair of finance or member finance? Because the working class tax cuts has worked? Look at those GDP numbers. Look at the employment figures Do people know how well it's worked? They're learning It's been interesting. It might ask me earlier today, what was response like all my life and said, You know what In the past when one has done an omnibus spending bill that's passed The longer. It sits out there The more smells bad And people find out more. They don't like it. This has been the opposite There's. So many good elements that are in there. They knew one or two But, the longer it sits out there, they go. Oh, I didn't know that was there I talked to Tom Cotton, who you mentioned earlier on. He was talking to some folks in Arkansas last week. He said he starts talking about the charitable giving, saying that if you give as a family to charitable giving, you can write up up to two thousand dollars off on your taxes. And people go, where did that come from? Well, That came from the Working Families Tax Relief Act, because we want to incentivize more giving to nonprofits because that helps the hungry and homeless and hurting. That's, a key thing that's actually built into the bill :, the ability for you be able to write off full expenses if you're a small business farmer ranch. The end of the death tax increases that are out there for those family farms. They want to pass on to the next generation. All, those things are built into that bill. And as more people find out about it, they go. Oh, I just thought it was like no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on social security It's like well, those things are true, but there's a lot more true in that bill as well.
Speaker 3 00:04:45
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Speaker 2 00:07:01
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Speaker 1 00:07:04
I love Legoland. Well, I'm not giving up on the 2014 election because I think the economy will turn. Well, it's already turned the corner. It will be apparent to everyone in the country has turned the corner by the fall, indeed by June. Senator James Lankford from Oklahoma State travels home and saying this to TSA people.:" I will be saying hello to TSA people." It's not their fault that Democrats have lost their minds and joined by Senator Shelley Moore Capito, Republican of West Virginia, she's also chairman of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee.
Speaker 3 00:07:24
Sean said back. 
Speaker 3 00:07:32
Kimmy said to RCC Life Group, I'll take a listen. Thanks for sharing.
Speaker 1 00:08:32
He's also on appropriations committee. I'll have to talk to you about, but I want to start with the environment committee. Welcome back, Senator. Thank you for joining me today. The endangerment finding that came out in 2009. I'm a wonky retired land use lawyer, so I know what it did, but not a lot of people know what it did. Are you going to be at the repeal ceremony? Are you happy that this is happening for CO2 and other greenhouse gases? Yes, I'm very happy. I will not be there, But it- I think it will be one of the largest deregulations that we've been able to do because the effects of the endangerment finding on well, obviously, on gas powered cars, but also the effects that it'll have on manufacturing power plants, everything they're they're moving forward. I think, with making smart deregulation, maybe look at what uh what. What they did with the endangerment finding, They they really uh put a couple steps in between finding endangering people's health in terms of uh of uh environmental regulations. We're not removing any environmental regulations, we're not doing anything to spoil the air and the and the water here. And of course that's gonna be the charge but that's not what's happening here. It's basically saying you've overstepped your authority once again and the executive, Congress has to legislate here. Well that is what the Supreme Court said when they upheld the endangerment finding. They said, if this is wrong, it's up to either Congress or the administrative state to correct itself, not for the courts. So it's taken 17 years, but I think it's gonna make electricity a lot cheaper to produce. That's my my quick takeaway, People who are laboring under these high energy bills are gonna be able to not worry about their power companies meeting artificial requirements imposed by endangerment requirements.
Speaker 4 00:09:27
By the way, I saw yesterday, there were a hundred coal miners and a bunch of suits from Virginia and West Virginia at the White House. What were they there for? Well, they were there. The president, as you know, is a friend of coal, But I think it was very well timed because when you look at this last two weeks, when we've had so much cold weather, if you look at the energy mix of how we kept America warm. Uh, coal had at least a twenty five to thirty percent mix in there. We, we could not keep ourselves warm because the wind was not blowing, and the sun was not shining. We needed fossil fuels and nuclear to really get through this very difficult time. And so it's a practical matter. So the president basically has said yesterday with all the coal miners there with him, and you know he's very popular in coal country as you know, he basically said we want you, we want to take care of you, These are good jobs, but we also have to elongate the time of your coal fired power plants. And this will be uh allow some more modernization to move forward because Biden was really coming in and saying, if you didn't make these very stringent air requirements, You're gonna have to close down by twenty thirty five, and it basically would've closed them all down. And what's that like? They would've been shivering in their homes. And uh, my friends up in New. England cannot believe that New York is standing in the way of a pipeline for natural gas from Pennsylvania, but I digress.
Speaker 1 00:10:07
I want to ask you about the shutdown that looms. First of all, you run appropriations, you and Senator Collins are chairwomen. Hats off to you, Eleven out of twelve appropriations bills that the first time it's been done I think since the nineties. And the last one runs out tomorrow night. What's going to happen?
Speaker 4 00:10:16
Well, I think really the eleven out of twelve personal kind of set the scene. I think people need to realize that's ninety six percent of the government. So, all ninety six percent of the government is funded, no matter what happens tomorrow night. The Department of Homeland Security also includes Coast Guard, T S A, Secret Service, F E M A really critical national security issues. And so basically, uh Democrats honestly are being are willing to defund or at least uh unfund those uh critical pieces because they want adjustments in ICE and Border Patrol. The irony here Hugh is the bill that they rejected does have adjustments in. 
Speaker 1 00:10:36
And ICE and uh Border Patrol in terms of body cameras or IG reports or training for uh de-escalation. And they're turning their back on that. So I you know I'm frustrated about this, I feel bad for the TSA agents that are now they don't want to know when they're going to get paid, how they're going to get paid, But uh, they just put up what's called a live. You see on the floor, saying, let's extend for two more weeks and negotiate. And uh Chris Murphy from Connecticut came down and rejected that. Huh? Chris Murphy? That's interesting because there are some states that are at risk in the in the winter more and might need FEMA more. One of them is Connecticut. And so I'm a little bit surprised that he wants FEMA unfunded. Uh, but I always talk to the TSA people when I fly a lot, as do you, I'm sure They're the only ones really getting hammered. I'm not sure if FEMA is going to get hammered that much, but the customers of FEMA Is there. Any money in the piggy bank, if anything hits the country?
Speaker 4 00:11:05
Well, right now, uh yes, in FEMA yes there is. There are for the disaster relief fund uh there are uh additional funds, billions of dollars in there right now. But, you have to keep it, you know, well, funded there because look, what happened in Asheville. That was a billion dollar event during Helene and I'm. Sure, this winter storm we'll find out was was very, very expensive as well. So yes, there is money in FEMA. Uh. And yes, TSA will keep working because they're considered essential and same with the Coast Guard, but it's still it's the wrong way to do business, especially when we've been so successful at appropriations. We had a negotiated bill between Republicans and the Democrats. Look what Homeland did today, he said, look, we're pulling out of Minnesota. We're now working better with our state and local partners. So you know, there's been some achievements there and modifications as to how they're going to approach some of these um.
Speaker 1 00:11:32
Try to you know, find the illegals that are committing crimes. So there has been progress made. And but they just don't want to acknowledge it. Quite honestly. Uh they think that it's a big political, good political issue for them on on an issue that republicans have been. Uh, really had a major edge, especially as you see. Nobody coming across the border any longer. Now i see you're in your office. I'm not going to talk your campaign with you because i can't do politics for the senator who's in your office. So i won't, but i want to talk about whether or not it's actually cutting away democrats think it's cutting nationally. Uh, i don't know how people feel about minnesota, but i think they wanted the border closed. And i think they want the border to continue open, and they want the t, s, a funded, and they want fema funded. They can't do anything about ice, wasn't that funded in the big, beautiful bill for a long time.
Speaker 4 00:11:56
Yes, in the in the well, I'm calling it working families tax cut with a big beautiful bill. Yes, has enough funding for four years for ICE and for border patrol. So it won't affect those agents. It won't affect their ability to do their jobs. The American people want the borders closed. They want the drug trafficking stopped. They want the uh murders and killings of illegals who are here on account of board to be not just imprisoned, but deported out of this country back to their home country. The president said he was going to do that and he's doing that. I do believe that uh, the American people are very supportive about what the president has done. Unfortunately, we saw in Minneapolis, where rising tensions uh mistakes were made, and they're going to have investigations to find out what happened, and, you know, lawful life.
Speaker 5 00:12:26
How's it going? Hey, what's going on, man?
Speaker 6 00:12:30
Uh, Your sister got me all excited because she said that there might be Alberto sometime in the near future. And then my wife's like," Hey," and my wife's like," Hey," you know, today would be a good day. Like you don't have to pick up the kids. You know and I'm like even better.
Speaker 5 00:12:51
Well as far as I know, my sister is up in Apple or not Apple Valley. Victorville. It's area. Um, just staying up there. Um, I am heading to pick up my other half from work right now. I had to drop the truck off. Um, my sister, my brother, You know, we were talking about, you know, different cars and stuff like that around my dad's house. And uh, you know, I told him that I was interested in having my dad's truck, you know, because if all bottom with.
Speaker 5 00:13:24
Same time and everything, you know. Yeah, and so they're kind of like, you know, yeah go ahead. So I sent it over and had the you know the maintenance stuff that it's been kind of lacking lately done today. So I took her and dropped her off at work this morning. I've been running around so right now, I am heading back over to pick her up from work. Then we've got to go pick up the rugrat at school so, After that, I don't know what's going on, but I am gonna be tied up until probably four. And like I said, Kimberly is; I think she's still up there. I don't think she; I don't know if she's coming down today or not. Well, if she's coming down today, If you want to get a hold of her and see if she's coming down today, we'll go do it.
Speaker 6 00:14:16
Yeah, I'll do that. Um, yeah cause i mean i've got you know, My wife's taking the kids to go bowling for some deal, and uh, got my oldest went off to camp today. So okay, like shoot, let's do something. So but I don't you know I I can if you tell me no I'll I'll happily sit at home with nobody to talk to happily, right? So no pressure either. Uh, but you know love to hang out.
Speaker 5 00:14:49
Let let me, Let me see what's going on. Maybe I can just cause she's got about forty five minutes in between when I pick her up. And when she's got to pick the little one up. Maybe I can just have her drop me off. And then when the kids get home, You can swing by and pick me up, and we'll head home where you can drop me off at their house on your way out.
Speaker 6 00:15:09
Yeah, i'd I'd drop you off or whatever too.
Speaker 5 00:15:12
Let me let me see what's going on or we can do it after.
Speaker 6 00:15:15
Yeah, What I mean whatever works like it can be after it can be earlier, am you know? I'm easy. Yeah, I have no commitments.
Speaker 5 00:15:22
I doubt very much that my sister's gonna come down this late in the day. So,
Speaker 6 00:15:29
Sounds like there's a guy there.
Speaker 5 00:15:33
Yeah, I don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 6 00:15:38
That's fair.
Speaker 5 00:15:39
That that that that's a mealtime uh discussion.
Speaker 6 00:15:42
That's okay,
Speaker 5 00:15:43
I i don't need to talk about things like that while i'm driving. 
Speaker 6 00:15:47
I I was I was just looking for confirmation so it just you know. Fair enough, all right. Um yeah, I'll hit her up either way.
Speaker 5 00:15:57
What's going on? And uh if you hear from her or whatever let me know.
Speaker 6 00:16:02
Cool. Cool cool So all right man we'll talk soon All right That's it. 
Speaker 1 00:16:14
Obviously, very tragic here, but at the same time, the American people don't want sanctuary cities, they don't want to see our cities and states harboring illegals that are committing crimes, and they want to see people deported. Uh. You know, to me, that's still the winning part of the immigration argument. So the government TSA, at least and FEMA out of money as of tomorrow night at midnight. No getting around that. It looks like that's what's going to happen. I know this is this is like bad. Um replay theater. It's like a bad NFL game. We're watching the same thing again and again and again, Shelley Moore Capito senator from West Virginia. Thank you so much for joining me. I appreciate it Senator C R three senators Senator Langford Senator Shelley Moore Capito now we go to Senator Jim Talent. He's a retired senator, he's also on. Leadership board at the Reagan Institute for National Security. Senator Talent, you watched this week, uh, run into town. What do you think happened?
Speaker 5 00:16:46
This thing has a laser avoidance system, has auto takeoff, auto land, follow me function. It also hasum a function where you set it, and it'll do a huge circle around the around youum and take video. Um this thing goes so far up that it'll disappear in the clouds. Um I have another drone from this company that's great as well.
Speaker 7 00:17:07
I think the president affirmed that he is on course, Uh to continue um trying to force the Iranians to agree to our demands and if they don't, he's going to attack. And I mean look, our demands have been pretty consistent. You know, They break down the ballistic missile, uh, arsenal because they're using that to attack our forces and our allies. They stop subsidizing the proxies because the proxies attack our forces and allies. And also, you are tied at the hip with the narco terrorism groups in the Western Hemisphere. People forget about that. And, then the third point is, is is the nuclear program, although personally I don't think that's so important because I think President knows we pretty much destroyed it. And, he uses the same tactic in in Iran that he's using in Venezuela and Cuba and even in China, which is he uh he enhances his leverage, he applies pressure on vulnerable points, and then negotiates. With a view towards getting the regime to play ball with us, and then if they don't, uh he he uses it for leverage. And so now I look, Trump knows the mullahs are not going to agree. But Trump also knows that the protests mean the regime has been pushed to the precipice. And the one thing they care about more than anything else is regime survival. So I think there is a chance that Iran may agree to this. It won't be a mullah doing it, But it could be somebody wearing a military cap who decides, you know what we're going to get overthrown if the United States keeps applying this pressure. And maybe it's maybe we can't just wait anymore for Khomeini to die.
Speaker 1 00:18:00
You have your book on Libyan disarmament is on the west coast under the beltway, but you are a walking book. So I'll ask you after we invaded Iraq.
Speaker 7 00:18:05
Could I be put a call into someone who said, Come take all my chemical WMD and the very beginnings of a nuclear program they had in the seventies? And we did, and we got it all, and nobody knew we were doing it. So and South Africa did the same thing. So it's possible for James to say uncle. Do you think that's possible here? Yeah, I think it's possible. And Neil Ferguson thinks so as well. I don't know about you with Dan Seidner or so. Dan had him on a couple weeks ago. And Neil thinks it's possible now as I said that the mullahs are fanatics. I don't see them giving it up, but this is why Trump jumped on the protesters. Now the president. Uh I think Alex Ray said this the other day, and he worked with him. So he knows um man if the president is very sensitive when you know when when citizens when civilians are getting shot like this I think Trump's very sincere that he doesn't like that. But what he what he did was, he knew what the protests meant. That the regime was close to the edge in terms of collapsing and that this increased his leverage in a situation like this. And I think he's applying it. Now, do I think we're going to get regime alteration? They're going to start playing ball? Probably not. But I don't see any reason not to pursue that end, especially since it's given us time to assemble a force package, to talk of the Saudis. Now. Now when we attack and I think we're going to, we can say to the Saudis, look, we did everything we could together diplomatic solution. So I think there's a lot of reasons why he's negotiating and a lot of reasons why he's negotiating as long as he has. Hi Jeff remember two thousand. 
Speaker 6 00:18:57
Three Did I tell you that Billy's dad died? No. 
Speaker 6 00:19:05
That happened.
Speaker 8 00:19:08
Monday. I. 
Speaker 9 00:19:12
Don't know. I've met him. No, no, I've had a. 
Speaker 8 00:19:23
Conversation. You. 
Speaker 9 00:19:27
Got much to answer back there like to talk about it?
Speaker 6 00:19:44
Yeah, Man.
Speaker 6 00:20:12
For The record, I have nowhere to be.
Speaker 10 00:20:36
I have spent the last year. 
Speaker 9 00:20:40
Facilitating a visit at the church. So, one of the women in the church is doing this.
Speaker 10 00:20:49
She's got two boys here, and they're a little bit confused by it. Social work is going to be going ahead at church with these wonderful children here. So, I'm really excited about that.
Speaker 9 00:21:28
We're In transition.
Speaker 9 00:21:36
So you want to just put together here.
Speaker 9 00:21:46
So, We're going to move it to the top of the bed. You see that I have to keep on figuring out how to turn on that wire. It was? Here's what you do.
Speaker 6 00:22:00
Take off the plastic. He wants to touch the wire,
Speaker 9 00:22:04
You let him touch the wire? He won't touch the wiring. No, that's just a USB. Um, I've just. But yeah, yeah. Um. So like. Yeah. It's just been. It's been mayhem here, man. Um. But, you know, reality is um I told you one of us sleeps on the couch and the other one sleeps with him?
Speaker 9 00:22:36
So that's kind of my, alright. Toddler bed is now. And thankfully, when I said that, he learned how to climb out of the crib so. Yeah? So. I can help. Huh? I can help. Oh, I'm just making a couch. Um. You take everything off? Huh?
Speaker 6 00:22:58
You take everything off? You just fold it up?
Speaker 9 00:23:00
Take it. I don't blanket so then. Huh? This comes off? Uh, that can stay on. Okay, just flip it over and.
Speaker 10 00:23:12
This thing's great though. That's cool. Yeah. Um, Anyway.
Speaker 10 00:23:24
See how it works? Uh.
Speaker 9 00:23:34
When I turned it on, it was skeleton and now. It's.
Speaker 6 00:23:43
Hmm. I think that wants to be turned off. Probably not the guy's in there actually. Mhm mhm. Take a seat, do you want some coffee? Too late for coffee? It's not too late for coffee. Sounds like you kind of need to make some coffee just to kind of.
Speaker 9 00:24:05
And like something happened earlier in the week. And. And, like there's just little things that like. She nitpicks. And I'm like, you know that I like. Like you know that my my job encompasses the calendar, but my job is not the calendar, cause like. 
Speaker 9 00:24:35
She cares so much about everything being detailed in the calendar. It's like you are the only person who looks at it. Like, I'll make sure there is no conflicts. That's not nearly good enough, right? And so it's like if we're going to be a organization, we're a church. We're church and so this woman right who needs this. Safe space, It's like nobody needs to know what's going on, except for the person who's gonna let them in and let them use that space. That space is in the children's wing. The children's director was the one who originally brought this up to me, so I know I've got permission to use their space for it. And this whole like, what about this? What about this? They just need to be like I told somebody who's gonna be here today.
Speaker 9 00:25:32
At two o'clock, Christy's coming with the foster kit like with her adoptees and their foster sister. Like they're going to use that space. Hey, I'll take care of it, right? And. So it's like you put this in and you left yourself as the organizer. It's like yeah, because I am the one to talk to. Like I am the one that organized it. You know, it's like I haven't responded because I am like. You want me walk with you? Hmm? Yeah, just going to fill up some water. I know but.
Speaker 9 00:26:06
You know what I do when I get mad? I scrub things. And so, it's just like. And so my. Right, I'm already on thin ice. So it's like. I I know, I know. But sometimes.
Speaker 6 00:26:44
Look, man. I feel like there's a couple things that Corey is like, he's gonna fire me. And then he doesn't. You know? And uh. Sometimes, like I told him today. And I could tell he was bothered by it and he let it go. I messed something up. Mistakes happen. You know, but I'm not going to cower. I'm not going to. I'm going to own the parts that I did. I'm going to try to get better. Um, and you know, in fact, more than anything, I'm actually starting to stand up.
Speaker 6 00:27:33
A little bit more, not like. Take care. You know, give you a good example. So Ben's in EA, which is so it goes like three, like two, like one EA.
Speaker 9 00:27:50
Right And that's what Maddy's moving to as well.
Speaker 6 00:27:52
Right So, the flight two coach who Ben doesn't like to play for, says, hey, can Ben play with us in state cup It's in Temecula?
Speaker 6 00:28:04
And I was like, dude. And I know Ben hates playing for him, and you know, and he doesn't always get time right or a lot of time. And it's like, dude, you're asking me to go to Temecula. Can you commit to him playing the vast majority of the game? And he gets like no. I got to take care of my guys. So normally, I'd just go. You know. Hey, yeah. We can't help you sorry, but it's like. No, you're young, you're stupid. Like I'm you're asking me for a favor. Yeah,
Speaker 6 00:28:41
You know, if you want people to to be happy with sitting on the bench, go get a flight three kid. They love to come help out the flight two team. Yeah, you know I'd have to talk Ben into this as it is. He hates playing for your team. You know yeah and so I just sent him one back saying hey dude, you know. 
Speaker 6 00:29:03
And Ashley was like, "just leave it alone." It's like, and I was going to, I was like, "I can't. Like you need to learn. Like and if you if you don't like it, " I put it into chat, GPT made it a little bit nicer than the way I said it. But, but you're expecting a four and a half hour sacrifice on my part, and you're unwilling to sacrifice on your side of it. And I just i can't responsibly agree, you know, to your request. Right? Um but I wish you the best. You know? So, I think that in response to this, kind of like sometimes, dude. You know, I'm finding more and more it's like no. I know what I know. I'm comfortable with what I know. I'm comfortable with what I believe. You know, fought Corey last Friday on you know giving a guy a raise. It's like, I'm not backing down you know and uh so. 
Speaker 6 00:30:02
Go and go and go and go, and he's like," Alright, fine. Here's here's the criteria of it." You know. And I'm just kind of like. And second ago is like. Used to be.
Speaker 8 00:30:20
Really. If it's not true or important,
Speaker 6 00:30:24
I really don't have a lot of courage because when. It's super important. I'm pretty extreme that I could get to be upset about this, right? And, the other side is most people are afraid of me or they or they trust me. So just give me what I want. And, then there's that little in between where people aren't afraid of me and don't trust me, or you know don't care about whether or not they trust me. And usually those people are in a higher role and I just kind of like, I am naturally. 
Speaker 6 00:31:00
And it's subservient to, you know, those people. And I realized this probably ten years ago. It's like why do I act like a bee? You know, where does my alpha go? And the alpha mean is, is the alpha mean is the one that gets to do it. You know.
Speaker 6 00:31:31
How can I figure out how to be that guy always, even when you know I am with somebody that has more authority? So, I've been working on that for ten plus years and I am starting to actually push that a little bit more. And I guess what I am saying is is like, I think that there are things that we can stand on. And things that we shouldn't stand on, And it sounds like even though it you know, I'd be happy to I'm interested in reading the email, if you want to share it with me. But it sounds like this conversation kind of needs to be responded to in a way that says I think you're missing the bigger picture there and and I understand that you have.
Speaker 6 00:32:32
Requests that I am happy to. You know, we're going to what's your boss's name? Brian. Brian. And he's how do I go about this?
Speaker 9 00:32:45
He's CC'd, yeah.
Speaker 6 00:32:46
Yeah, but I think but I would like with Kevin, you know, with my boss Kevin. Right because I can be you, this is crazy, right? Little much. Yeah. How can I do this? How how can I yeah?
Speaker 8 00:33:12
And Who's Christy?
Speaker 9 00:33:13
Christy's theum, the girl using the group. So she's in small group, so like we know she understands.
Speaker 9 00:34:34
Nothing's Transpired this week, though. Like you just know that's not in a vacuum, right? Like like Seth with Ryan there now is like you don't see everybody play soccer.
Speaker 8 00:35:05
And so,
Speaker 9 00:35:11
My other the other thing that question really is, do you need to know everything goes on in the church? I. 
Speaker 6 00:35:28
Am just clicking on all the little.
Speaker 6 00:35:40
So, cause she's referring to a document that I.
Speaker 9 00:35:44
That was given to me on Tuesday, after I put this agreement on the table. So, already. Like because it's basically like, okay fine, like tell me what you go through your head like so that I don't up all the time. What do you want me to be looking for? So Ryan gave it to me Tuesday afternoon.
Speaker 9 00:36:10
I put this in the schedule.
Speaker 9 00:36:30
Yeah, So I put it in Tuesday before we met, and so then I got this like checklist of like just do this checklist.
Speaker 9 00:36:40
And so what I said was, so and then. And it was like. You know, So like what she's referencing is like you said you'd scrub it for things where you're not doing that before I am doing that before. So like there's a. Um. So like those are areas where it's like okay, okay, good. That's just me being well,
Speaker 6 00:37:04
No, yeah, but well I mean she is being a bit right? Like mm-, hmm. This is this is there's there's no respect here.
Speaker 9 00:37:13
Right, oh yeah, she does not respect it.
Speaker 6 00:37:16
Well, but that's that's a problem, right? Because you work at a church.
Speaker 9 00:37:22
This is my problem. This is exactly my problem. Is this the person you guys want? Like I'll be the first off and and I'm not I'm not gonna lie went out.
Speaker 9 00:37:41
We have a de facto executive pastor, But they've skirted the rules and the bylaws by delegating authority instead of giving it to us. And that's bullshit. Um, and so. Sorry.
Speaker 6 00:37:55
No, I don't care if you cuss, dude.
Speaker 8 00:37:56
I know you don't care if I cuss.
Speaker 9 00:38:04
You know that I've done things. Um, but.
Speaker 9 00:38:10
I trust these guys. I don't think all the guys know what's going on here. Ryan holds my feet to the fire because Marina requires him to. Ryan's an elder ;. He doesn't answer to M arina ;, he answers to Brandon and Marina answers.
Speaker 9 00:38:40
Marina's branding for a hand now. Um,
Speaker 6 00:38:54
When you got handed this note, This new little policy change. Essentially,
Speaker 9 00:39:02
Uh, it was a like there was a couple things that didn't go on to the. Like that, I uh I had yet to put a third service on for Easter on the calendar. Right, all the signs are so like we usually do a third service. Right, so it was okay to things like I should have been up on that. Um. And so like that was kind of a that was the visit from Ryan. I was like okay.
Speaker 9 00:39:42
You were doing like you talked about. You doing really well, and then now we have problems. So I am going to give you this. Marina said," You don't have to give it to him," but I am going to give it to you. Like fine, okay? Understand that when she said if you give them to this, I am going to hold them to it. But. 
Speaker 6 00:40:10
When this is this is that, Policy update. But but it's not a policy.
Speaker 9 00:40:18
So it either is or it isn't, and and this is my problem. Well, And I think that, that's where you know. 
Speaker 6 00:40:36
I Don't want to give you advice that for a cultural thing understand. Or, no, no, I don't mean like oh it's church culture so I don't understand it. What I mean is that, I don't know the characters. You know and I think that there's. You know, I mean, I definitely see Corey a certain way because it's just like, but like there used to be a time where it's like now Im gonna tell him everything because you know, Im gonna be honest. Its like no! He freaking goes crazy on some of these things. So Im not only gonna tell him the stuff that I need to.
Speaker 8 00:41:11
Yeah, And but I got to make sure that I am good with him. Mhm. But ultimately my rule has been this is all you should have said. Yeah, let me do what I believe is right. And you know, I am going to protect myself. Um, but I think that there is like. 
Speaker 6 00:41:41
You know. What did Ryan uh what did Ryan say when you said, this place is better off. 
Speaker 9 00:41:48
Without me. But there was a. I also feel like. Like he was kind of hedging.
Speaker 9 00:42:13
I have no good reason to think that, but you know, I am intuitive. I am pretty good at reading people. Mhm. And so it wasn't a step back from the ledge; it was a no, no like that's not accurate, but it wasn't a step back from the ledge; it was a don't jump. Yeah. Um. And. Here's. 
Speaker 8 00:42:50
The two things that go on in my mind. Um.
Speaker 9 00:42:58
It's a significant, I don't just say a lot, But I have to look for another, something that would fill that void would be difficult. Um, but really?
Speaker 9 00:43:13
Solid fifty to one hundred people that really rely on me. And I make a difference to a lot of them. And when I am not there for one Sunday, the next Sunday, a lot of people go where have you been? And I think that's significant, right? I mean, but like.
Speaker 9 00:43:43
Our culture sucks so bad that getting a compliment in the office is like winning an award. Nobody believes they're going to get a job. Not one. Nobody knows how to give compliments and. 
Speaker 9 00:44:15
Stupid, especially at the church. Um. I've never been told, hey, let me just that was good right. Um.
Speaker 9 00:44:37
I Didn't read her whole email,
Speaker 6 00:44:38
Though. So well, I wanted to I wanted to read the end of it because I, again.
Speaker 9 00:45:02
So. For for what it's worth, today's my day off. So. Like the fact that she's sending this knowing that I'm off today. Yeah,
Speaker 6 00:45:19
I thought it was just a change log. Please update the calendar chat whenever you add or edit an entry in the calendar. I don't see this, Event on the change log. Right, even though that was the ask.
Speaker 9 00:45:33
This, so it used to be this was a okay. Maybe she she changed it and I didn't really understand, but the change log used to be a hey fill this out before.
Speaker 9 00:45:56
So that we know what's on the calendar, what's changed on the calendar. Now it's whenever you change something, put it on this thing. And that happened this week as well. And so, and I think we talked about that all Wednesday. And so. It's like oh yeah, let me throw in anything I've put on in the last two days. And I missed that, But I also missed that because it's not something that we're going to talk about on Tuesday when we get together.
Speaker 6 00:46:23
But I mean also she.
Speaker 6 00:46:28
She created a new policy. And policies have effective dates. And when it's not stated, one assumption can be effective today. That would be a likely assumption. Right? So how far back should you go? But the problem is, and when you can have more than one answer there, that's on you communicator.
Speaker 6 00:46:59
Right, that's on you, manager. So. You know, and I think there is a simple response here that says hey listen. I received your request and have you put anything in since?
Speaker 9 00:47:21
No, I haven't touched anything today.
Speaker 6 00:47:24
No no no when you when you received the new layout yeah. Have you put anything in?
Speaker 9 00:47:32
Yeah, I put in the things that have come up that are like a June. What if yeah. 
Speaker 6 00:47:38
Are they according to the policy? The new the new the things you've put in since you got the policy.
Speaker 9 00:47:48
I would say they're according to the old policy, but I don't know.
Speaker 9 00:47:58
Basically, like this used to be this log same document has said, "Why don't we get together on staff meeting?" This will be discussed. And so I was up from that. It's not really realizing that when she sends you the change log, you need to put everything that you put on there. Like and so I just read what her.
Speaker 9 00:48:29
This is usually where I get in hot water. It turns out I get in very good cases, but it's like, But all of this stuff is like like you are rolling out policies on the fly. And the policy is really and this is what I am kind of asking, like hey, what's in your head? Let's.
Speaker 9 00:49:01
Scrubbing. For her, It means going through everywhere where so like the default when I put an event in the calendar, the default was to right. And so she wanted to change that to right. So scrubbing means in this sense meansum changing.
Speaker 6 00:49:33
By the way, everybody knows when they misspelled something because there's a little squiggly line. I'll check for you. An S? That's correct.
Speaker 6 00:49:53
See, Because I'd respond back with something that says," I was given it on this day." This event. I was the organizer, which but she's saying that you have to be there the whole time. No, and that's that's B S like. That that doesn't stipulate it doesn't stipulate that in your policy. You know if you'd like me to update that I'd be happy to. Right and I just kind of called some stuff out like.
Speaker 6 00:50:33
But not in a, like. Right. Right. You know, in the future, if uh you'd like me to retroactively, you know. Handle things according to new policies, you know. We'll just have to, you know, I'll ask if you want me to do that or or. You know. How do you reframe the argument? Is a good check, by the way, but. Um. Where I just let me do that you know. But.
Speaker 6 00:51:33
But it's like there is not even like I appreciate you doing this, you know. There is no closing to it. There is no like, it's just like you f an idiot. I told you to do it, freaking do it.
Speaker 9 00:51:52
So, Like okay right again, I am off today, right? So well, this came in yesterday afternoon. So then. Like. Can you at least add. And so, it's like okay, Uh dates are in the calendar. Thank you. And then it's like okay. Kidding. The ask is in the calendar one, you need to complete step on March twenty ninth to approve the event. All the other ones are approved between.
Speaker 9 00:52:32
All you need. Need you to change the event organizer from your name to my name, right So I did all that and I just didn't respond. Um. But the whole like this this ticky tacky, like. I can't wait for you to come into the office to do this. It has to happen now, right Kind of.
Speaker 9 00:53:06
That this was yesterday. They had to send it on to Eric, uh, to Ashley to say like, see what I'm dealing with. So I send my proof of our e-bulletin and say, hey here's if you see anything let me know. So right on the top, it says, pending instructions from Esther. If she wants lent in the e- bulletin, I will adjust to add it. Where's the Lent announcement? Please place that under the worship night announcement.
Speaker 6 00:53:41
Pending, A N N T means announcement to her. It does, And in that kind of stuff you need,
Speaker 9 00:53:50
You have to push back on it if she's fling, just as a you need a second thought to go and whenever you push back, you are just replying back like" oh, I had it here."
Speaker 6 00:54:06
Right. You know, let me let me tell everybody that you missed it. Right.
Speaker 9 00:54:13
Yeah, and then I just this was my so I was too soft. Rather than saying you must not have seen my note,
Speaker 6 00:54:26
But I think you need to kind of do it a little bit more like you can stand up for myself. Yes.
Speaker 9 00:54:36
And I am just so like,
Speaker 6 00:54:40
But stand up for yourself lovingly.
Speaker 9 00:54:45
Maintain my character, right? And this is the whole like I because I take failure poorly, I cowered and I've been cowering. You know, I've been letting myself get beat up. And then it says. Like, you keep moving the goalpost. And you're, like, and you come at me the moment I miss. I. I know, she's wanted me out of that role since October. That's why I am on a PIP. But now that I am on the PIP like. 
Speaker 9 00:55:32
Nobody needs any justification for changing my role, my status. Right. Like I signed off, so. Um. You know, so like so yeah, I need to stand up and at least say you know what. I'm not going to go softly. And you know like I need to. And you sit with Ryan and go, "Look, you know what? This last week I may have had my errors, But like I am not like I am like he's reminded me that conversations are having he's there are being had with her as well. Like hey, this is a church; have some grace."
Speaker 6 00:56:32
It doesn't even need to be grace, right? It just needs to be it needs to be loving. Right, and you know, But here is what I think you need to know :, you are right where the Lord wants you. Here, This is you are going to be number four that I am going to share this with.
Speaker 6 00:57:03
You should know I'm gonna read you the whole message because I sent it to my wife first. And then I was talking to Kim about her dad. Yeah, And I forward it to her before I realized that I sent the same message to her mom, to my wife. Um, so I'm gonna read you the whole message so you can appreciate it.
Speaker 6 00:57:30
You reminded me of this note that I took this morning. Hope this helps. Love you. The necessity of trials, trials are not simply because the world is a bad place, if trouble comes you need them. God hates the brokenness but monitors and allows suffering in stages to teach specific lessons. John Newton's quote encapsulates, this : Everything is necessary that he sends ; nothing can be necessary that he withholds, if enough, If something is in your life, you need it, even if it's bad. If it's not, you don't need it, even if you think you do. There is a divinely ordained order to your life, even if it appears chaotic from your limited perspective. It was actually a really good. I am just kidding. Oh forward to little sneak peek of this new sermon from Tim Keller because you know, that's very Tim Keller. It's. 
Speaker 9 00:58:25
Like Braden did you write this and like with Chat GPT?
Speaker 6 00:58:29
Oh, bro, I've got a AI podcast app that that no, I just that's what I mean. It's like so each one of these, I don't write them. I just go yeah save that one save that one.
Speaker 9 00:58:41
So like cause I work back and forth with like chat G P T when I am like, oh, to write this thing to my small group leaders. But here is where am going, give me this and give me this and give me this. And then give it back now. No, I need you to change that that and so am like, One, I am going to stunt my own writing by using it. So, I sent out a but I sent out this to my small group leaders this week as I reviewed the questions. I realized it may be a little difficult one. One may be a little difficult is what I meant to say. And I wanted to remind you that you are free to use the questions in a way you see fit.
Speaker 9 00:59:26
So, instead of removing the question, I decided to answer it. John makes sure, and this is about the water to wine. Right? John makes sure we notice that the water Jesus uses comes from the stone jars set aside for Jewish purification. That detail is not incidental; these jars belong to Israel's faithful life before God. They represent cleansing, preparation, and the desire to approach Lord rightly. They were not misguided practices; they were signs of covenant obedience. And yet, for all their goodness, they could only wash externally. They could prepare a people, but they could not bring about the transformation they anticipated. Jesus does not discard these jars nor does he criticize them; instead, he fills them. Water meant for purification becomes wine for celebration. What once addressed ritual, cleansing now overflows with abundance and joy in that quiet act.
Speaker 9 01:00:24
Something preparatory gives way to something fulfilled. We step back into the Old Testament; this movement becomes even more textured. The prophets consistently speak of wine when they describe the age of restoration and the arrival of God's saving reign. In Isaiah twenty five, the Lord promises a feast of rich food and well aged wine, a day when death itself will be swallowed up. In Isaiah fifty five, The thirsty are invited to come and drink wine without money and without price, because the steadfast love of the Lord draws near.
Speaker 9 01:00:54
Amos nine envisions the mountains dripping with sweet wine when God restores His people. In Joel three speaks of wine flowing in the day when Zion is renewed. It's Billy, okay? Hey,
Speaker 6 01:01:12
Hey! Oh, cause you cause you sent me the text that said I'll call you back.
Speaker 6 01:01:25
So. You did. But it still declines the call. I haven't talked to her yet, I was pulling up to my brother's house and uh, so, chatting him up right now and but. That will do. Alright Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 01:01:56
Yeah. Are we going to Bertos tonight or what? Question mark.
Speaker 9 01:02:12
There we go. You take that to Kim, you said? Yeah. You hanging out with them? Maybe Bertos, I offered. Yeah,
Speaker 6 01:02:21
Yeah, we talked about it. I am just trying to.
Speaker 9 01:02:34
But, But this is just it's funny because this is the John shows us that this long anticipated day has begun. The abundance is not accidental. The excellence is not incidental. The prophet's hope is beginning to take visible form in the presence of Jesus, and yet Jesus also says," My."
Speaker 9 01:02:54
The joy at Cana is real, but it's not yet the fullness. The wine flows freely here, but the cost of that abundance lies ahead. The cross will be the true unveiling of his glory, the moment when what the prophets foresaw is secured through suffering and resurrection. Cana is the beginning of signs, a quiet announcement that the age of fulfillment has arrived, even as it points forward to the hour when that fulfillment will be.
Speaker 9 01:03:24
What the law could signify, Christ accomplishes. What purification could prepare for, Christ brings to completion. The water of preparation gives way to the wine of fulfillment. Not because the former was wrong, but because it was always pointing forward. In Jesus, the promises mature and the restoration long foretold begins to take shape. Like, those are things that like it's funny what what that language learning model can do with. Like my conversations with it, And because it's like those are all the things that I go like I've been telling it all of those things, but if you ask me to write that down, I couldn't do it right. And that's where you know, like even looking at when it said "ontological" by ontology, I sent that to my. 
Speaker 9 01:04:23
Cohort guys, did I tell you this? Yeah, and they were just like" f this man." Like, I hate I hate this stuff so bad. It's like, yep. But if you if you use it as a tool, right? It actuallyum it produces what you tell it to produce really. Mhm.
Speaker 9 01:04:48
And you can't use it flippantly. You use it flippantly. 
Speaker 6 01:04:52
Well, not only that, But like one thing I am like really uh so I can only do your thing that you gave me on my phone. Oh. On my iPad and on my um computer, it says that, that version hasn't been released in my area yet. So I can't do I can't even do projects now, oh, you know, That's wild. I can't even do projects now on it It's weird so That's as of this morning on the Mac. Oh, and so but it's like so now if I want to do your thing, huh?
Speaker 9 01:05:29
Would you use a VPN so you are in L. 
Speaker 6 01:05:32
A. Maybe didn't think about that. Um, but here is dude. I am not telling you anything you don't know.
Speaker 9 01:05:46
Nothing that's fine.
Speaker 6 01:05:48
I've been in place I hate for three and a half years.
Speaker 6 01:05:54
And and Lord's used that, you know. Now I've been like," I want to go, I want to go, I want to go," but I've also been like," This is where you want me. That's why." And if this is where you want me, that also means that He can't send Corey can't send me away.
Speaker 9 01:06:17
And He's tried to. I know my problem is that I've been. I've been praying that the Lord has softened her heart towards me or or show me where I am supposed to go.
Speaker 6 01:06:32
And I think that's what does it mean," where you are supposed to go"?
Speaker 9 01:06:39
Like working for her is untenable, and so I am also saying," Lord, if You are just teaching me what it is." To walk through discomfort for the sake of your people, because at the end of the day, my role is to show people the character of Christ. That may not be what I get paid to do So.
Speaker 6 01:07:19
I'm just going to pretend like they're my ideas since I'm sick of saying, Keller would say. Um, at the root of every emotion is an idol, and it's important to search that out, figure out what's going on there. The fact that she has the ability to cause this to you.
Speaker 6 01:07:50
It's less about her. And more about you. There should be a point, And I went through this same thing, of course, where I am just like, oh, I can't do anything. You know. Should quit, okay? I just want to feel something, you know.
Speaker 6 01:08:19
And then there was a day where I said, "Brayden, you can do this. It's a good deal. Your ability to do this isn't in question here. Your fear of him and the effect that he has on you is your issue."
Speaker 6 01:08:52
Sometimes I tell the boys all the time, "We got Abel down the street." Yeah, right. Hey, if Abel comes to you and tells you you are stupid, do you care? No. Why not? You know because it's just freaking Abel. You know yeah You don't place any value on what this kid thinks. We do it all the time.
Speaker 6 01:09:23
And the reality is, is that I mean, you can tell me," Yeah, but she,"" Yeah,
Speaker 8 01:09:29
But he,"
Speaker 6 01:09:31
You know. Jacob, you know. Jacob's like hey I can get I can keep this thing going all night." He's like this girl right?
Speaker 9 01:09:49
No on that yeah. That's reference.
Speaker 9 01:09:56
Referencing that in the last passage, right? Peter shows up and Jesus, like, "Oh hey Simon, your name's now Peter." He didn't do anything; he did absolutely nothing. He shows up and Jesus says, "Your name's Peter now," and it's like. And so I had a reference. Jacob saying, "What is your name?" And God said, "Your name is Israel." And so in a way Jesus goes, "Your name is Peter. " And. So in that same way, and this is kind of the wild thing, right? In the same way on you I will build my people. On you I will build my church. Right? Israel will be a people. Peter will be.
Speaker 9 01:10:56
And it's just a wild like that's what John is like, eh, eh. And and that's the like that's such a such a cool thing. But but comes back yeah and I and I get that like my I don't give a day what Marina thinks about me. I give dang what the fact that she's more vital to Brandon's mission than I am.
Speaker 6 01:11:27
According to him,
Speaker 9 01:11:29
Right. Right. Right,
Speaker 6 01:11:34
You know. But, Marina Brandon Ryan. It doesn't matter. You know and I think. You know these so well, you don't know, I told you I'd share with you two interviews. Both they got seconds for next week. I am just. I am going to stop worrying about like doing it right, doing this. I am just going to freaking go in there and do it. Yeah, it's going to be me, Lord. If you want me to have it, I have it. Yeah, You know um and you know, I think think t here is something to be said about, you know what?
Speaker 6 01:12:27
I am just plowing forward. The Lord's got me here. He's asked me to be a clam today, going to be a clam. You know, Elizabeth Elliot he's quoting Elizabeth Elliot saying that " clam glorifies God more than we do each and every day." It's just the clam is the plan, you know, it's doing its purpose, fulfilling its purpose but, I mean, he put you in this place. He did, and when he wants you out, he'll send you out. And it might be a crappy situation. It might be a wonderful situation, but at the end of the day, either way. Tell me that you are going to look at us.
Speaker 6 01:13:27
You are going to see him struggling, And you are going to let it happen when it's not intentionally for his good. You know, you are not every single time you are going to run to him. The only time you are going to restrain yourself is when you go, "No Jesus." And if you. Being evil, you know how much more God.
Speaker 9 01:14:06
In that his.
Speaker 9 01:14:14
You Know. And I know that my better thought is if they want me out, let them kill me.
Speaker 9 01:14:29
Because I have to do whatever it takes to show these two that they're my priority, And the people who look up to me spiritually that I will fight for them against myself. And that's this is the moment that Moses looks at God and goes, "These idiots kill me." Kill me, God's like you are the one that told me I couldn't kill them. The funny somebody pointed out right, the Lord, the Lord abounding in steadfast love. I am merciful and slow to anger. Visiting justice upon the third and fourth generation, right? But right is he says because this is a definition of Yahweh.
Speaker 9 01:15:28
This is who I am, and the funny thing is, this passage comes right after Moses saying, "Lord, you can't kill him." He goes, " A ll right now, I'll tell you who I am : abundant abounding steadfast, love and patient slow to anger. Oh." Right, so when everybody's like, "Oh, he was actually," Laura was like, "No, I need you to see what I am going to let i go through if you are going to join me on this." And that's the part of it going. Like. I had to refrain from just replying to Ryan and going. Here is what happened. I need to respond to her and him and say here is this.
Speaker 9 01:16:30
But. I am just so, like I just like I don't even want to deal with her. Um. And that's not. When I am calling her out, the same like you are acting unchristianly. If I don't act christianly towards her, doing the same thing.
Speaker 6 01:16:55
And and you gotta have money in the bank.
Speaker 6 01:17:02
Right. I had dinner with Keith. Um, the other day, he starts out he's like so, my asshole boss is doing you a favor. I am like they offered me a job. What what's he do? They're closing Ontario, for all the reasons you said it was they needed to move.
Speaker 9 01:17:30
I said that like, Ten years ago, ten years, yeah.
Speaker 6 01:17:34
Uh, not closing up; they're closing L A. going down here.
Speaker 9 01:17:37
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 6 01:17:39
Um. But, we're talking, he was he was brought up by a Baptist preacher. So you know, he's loves his dad, but he hates Christians. You know, and uh He's like, don't tell me how to, you know, he's not talking to me, but he's and I said, let's see, that's not love. He's like, "Don't give me that." I was like, "No, no. You get to listen to me this time." Said if I ever pushed Christianity on you. No. Have I ever told you the way you need to live your life? No. Said I just sat here and told and listened to you tell me that.
Speaker 6 01:18:29
You told your daughter that if she wants to get an abortion, you'll help her get an abortion. If she wants to keep the baby, you'll help her keep the baby. And you told me that she needed to make the decision on her own. Why did you tell her that? Well, that's what's best for her. So, you did the most loving thing you could at the moment. Regardless of what you thought about the decision. Yes. Have I ever pushed Christianity on you? No, how would it be received? Not well. So the most loving thing that for me to do. I'm open about it, you don't ever, you know, I, you actually let me talk.
Speaker 6 01:19:28
When it's about me, but I don't push it on you, right? Even though I make cases for it, and you know I am, and I tell you I am at the times that I am doing it. But I push just enough to not piss you off, to not irk you. He goes, "Well that's right. " It's me loving you and doing what I think is best for you, because if I tell you, know where i think are going to go. And he she's like. 
Speaker 6 01:19:58
Yeah, like this. You know, it's like so why wouldn't I tell you? Isn't that not loving for me to not try to push you there? And he's like, "Well, you know I wouldn't listen." That's right. Hurt my relationship with you. My idea of witnessing is one day you are going to see me get punched. And by the way, this is twenty minutes after. I told him that the last five years I've gotten nothing but punched. Right? One day you're going to see me punched and you're going to go, "He's not affected." There's got to be something deeper he's holding on to. How can I. He's still happy. How can I get what he has? So that, my friend, is my witness. And I'm not shy about what I'm rooted in.
Speaker 6 01:20:59
You know, But I think that, that's but I am continuing to pour into him as a friend. Put money in his account so when I decide, you know, right now if I try to witness to him, you know, That's a million dollar deduction and I haven't put a million dollars in there, right? So you know what with her.
Speaker 6 01:21:32
I, you know, honestly, and I might even be pushing a little bit too hard. I'd say respond to her because that's the respectful thing to do. Saying hey. Policy went into effect, and she's probably going to go and look at something else you put in place right after the policy went into effect because you're going to say, hey, this went in before or I put this in before the policy. So she's going to go and try to fix that. And so you better correct it before you send the email. You know, even if you know, and I wouldn't say, "Hey, I've done it all right since then." I would just say, "I'd correct those other ones, " and I'd say something to the effect of the reason why I didn't do this was because it was before the policy went into effect or before I received the policy.
Speaker 6 01:22:29
But I can see that this is important to you, and I'll make sure. To do my best to dot every i, you know blah blah. And then. I would probably start doing stuff like. My whole kill them with kindness routine. You know.
Speaker 6 01:22:59
Maria, hey Maria, how are you? Because I tell Eric to do that stuff. He's like, I don't do I have to. Like no you don't have to. I'm not gonna make you do that. But, it's really hard to be mad at someone that's always nice to you for no good reason.
Speaker 8 01:23:15
Especially when you're mean to them. Okay Yeah yeah but. 
Speaker 6 01:23:27
You don't need to put a thousand dollars in their account every day. Just a nickel, you know.
Speaker 6 01:23:37
And And here is the Paul burning coals on her head kind of thing. People see that, and you will everybody knows how she feels about you, right? Because she's copied everybody else in on the emails. And people talk, especially at church offices. Especially women, right? And everybody will see that and go. And every time she sends an email, they'll go," He doesn't deserve that." You know how nice he is to her.
Speaker 9 01:24:13
Well, they already. I know. But. 
Speaker 6 01:24:17
But you haven't poured burning coals on her head yet. So we need that. But. 
Speaker 9 01:24:23
They know you know my point the people who work. In in her office, every time like, when she sees. An email and I'm standing there. They're like. Oh Sean. I'm sorry, check your email. And what's really funny is. Like. Yeah, I think they see how exacting she is. And how like every time we go okay like go deal with that. 
Speaker 9 01:24:55
I'll go take care of it. Um, they see me as going. You know, yeah, likeum. But you know, yeah. But. 
Speaker 6 01:25:13
Make sure she doesn't respond to that. You know it's always a good day when you've got messages from uh Lasko County Jail. You know about my guy in there right? Oh no. And now I got two dice in there. Well, he told this, his guy that's getting out, that he should contact me when he wants a job. So the guy's like, but call him sometime introduce yourself. Soum just want to make sure I didn't get something from him.
Speaker 9 01:25:51
Oh I do want to show you though like. 
Speaker 6 01:25:57
Okay. Researching topics? Huh? I haven't given my final statement.
Speaker 9 01:26:00
Oh, give me a final statement.
Speaker 6 01:26:02
No, you don't have to say something. I already said it, but I need to land it off. Yeah,
Speaker 9 01:26:08
That's my problem is that I was hitting my things somehow. You're. 
Speaker 6 01:26:16
Not wrong for feeling the way you do. Mhm. 
Speaker 6 01:26:22
Well. Truth is.
Speaker 6 01:26:27
Truly resting, almost better way to say it. Shouldn't be getting you that right. And and and this is this is the suffering. This is the suffering. We we think of it like we need to be up on the tree, too, right? It's this,
Speaker 9 01:26:45
No, but no, but it isn't I mean, yeah, it is on the tree too. Mhm. But and this is I was just telling this somebody the other day like. So, what are you going to do? Like, how are you going to look at this person when this happens? Because the crux, right—the height of the Christian life—is the height of the cross. It's not that Jesus got on that cross for my sins ;. It's that when He got on that cross for my sins, He looked at me and said, "Lord, forgive him; he doesn't know what he's doing." Like—that's the moment.
Speaker 9 01:27:24
It's not the getting the puncture, it's not getting the crown like those lead into all of those things. Hit this moment where he says," They don't even they don't know." That's what God. That's what Christ invites us into. I don't want it,
Speaker 6 01:27:44
But was he else said," Hey, if you follow me."
Speaker 10 01:27:53
It's gonna hurt. Yep.
Speaker 6 01:27:55
It's gonna be bad. Yep. Got nowhere to lay my head, you know? I got nothing, yep. Enter First Peter, right? Yeah. Hey, This is God. Turning you into gold. Turning you into gold. And here is Mike, you know because I am a workout guy, yeah You know. 
Speaker 6 01:28:22
Me not wanting to go to the gym, but I really want big pecs, so I go and I endure, and it sucks. But then I grow. That's why my pecs look good. Not so right now, but you know we're going to get there.
Speaker 9 01:28:34
No, this is reminding somebody that I used to sayum. But I'm only doing six miles today. But so. I think this, this was bought for us by the Steeos because it was on our thing, and it was one of their like. You sure that's what they want? And you said it's on the thing, isn't it? Um, anyway, there was that. And then somebody else bought me this little heater that was that Ashley had put on the thing. And then during the summer was getting really warm in here, so I bought that guy. And then this week I was on Woo not I wasn't on W oo ; I got a message from Woo, and it said, "Look what we got."
Speaker 9 01:29:19
In this thing was like over fifty percent off. And it does everything that these things do. It's just like I only have one outlet. We can fix that too. That actually needs to, I don't, and the outlets out here, So you can go yeah right through the wall, right? But I just don't know how to play with electricity. Oh, well by turning it off. But um so. I want to be able to put an outlet. So yeah, I've gotum. Oh oh. I was just playing his friend thought it would be a good idea to jump on his. 
Speaker 9 01:30:14
And The fact that he was upset with his friend, I noticed it while we were getting ready for nap time. But this whole part of like when when you read that it says, "Augustine was playing with his friend. His friend thought Augustine was playing." His friend thought, "Yeah, as Augustine was playing, " his friend thought it would be a good idea to jump on his back. And it's like the like the my image is like jump on his back, right? Like but rather they jump on his back and they both fell. Yeah.
Speaker 9 01:30:49
So, I noticed that Augustine was mad at his friend later on. If he said anything like "his mama," that's going to last. But anyway, so now this guy it's like the funny thing, like when you actually get something on loot that you are like, "Oh, that was a good one." And it was like one hundred and eighty bucks. But now but that's the whole thing is like. Now I only need one thing that does all these things. And it'll keep his air nice and pure. So, but I do need.
Speaker 6 01:31:31
You've got an outlet here.
Speaker 9 01:31:33
It's on the other side of the corner.
Speaker 6 01:31:39
And the wall. I'm assuming goes to there, right? Um,
Speaker 9 01:31:44
The wall goes to here.
Speaker 9 01:31:49
So that's a closet, right? So is there anything in there? Electricity? No. No electricity. But I can.
Speaker 6 01:32:01
But right,
Speaker 9 01:32:04
We can feed it back this way. Granted, right, because you're going to hit. You're going to have to go through. I'm just.
Speaker 6 01:32:13
You're you're a step ahead of me. I was just looking to see like okay what's here. Right, um, where do you want it? Because since it's not direct in there, where do you want it? Perfect world. Perfect world.
Speaker 9 01:32:27
I mean, I know outlets are always low, but I wouldn't mind it being high.
Speaker 6 01:32:33
Well, that's the first thought that went through my mind. Yeah. And being high is not hard. Right. Um, Because you've got essentially a channel right, especially if you got to move it sideways first. Yeah. Um.
Speaker 6 01:33:08
Okay, so where do you want it? I. 
Speaker 9 01:33:17
Don't know necessarily, but I mean somewhere on this wall.
Speaker 6 01:33:21
Yeah, so figure out. I mean, It's right here. It's likely that there is a stud on the right or left of that outlet, right? And then you are going to go, you know, how far is it to where the room is? You don't want it like right there, but you are going to have a stud probably every sixteen inches.
Speaker 6 01:33:53
You know. And then. And you're going to want to. Here's what I say. Put your own where you want in there. We got to get a fold across, But at some point in time, it doesn't matter how far you want to go with it. Right. You know, the question then just really becomes like, how do I get the hole in there? Mhm. You know, But even then it's probably not a deal to like or you can get an extension thing. So you don't have to do all the drywall. But right. But then again, Like one hole is the same as two holes is the same as one small hole is the same as a big hole. Right? Right. So what I might just do is pick where you want to go. Oh, I want it to be here. Okay?
Speaker 6 01:34:53
Then go parallel to that and open it up. Mhm. And just open it up in the same, pull off your face plate, right? And just run a, you know, a horizontal line. Horizontal line the same way. Like make sure it's level and then just cut to the next stud. Right. You know.
Speaker 9 01:35:18
Right because if you're patching. doesn't matter if you're. The point is here. It doesn't matter if you're patching this or this.
Speaker 6 01:35:23
On some, I mean, you still got to paint the whole wall. That's my biggest thing, right? Right to fix it. Right so you go across so then you'll drill holes in, you know each one. Get some Romex cable, which is just your it's got the three wires in it, and you just feed it through and You'll turn off the breaker pop a little hole in the thing. And I mean I'll help you do whatever you want, but if you want to get down on something, it's. You know, and he's just start essentially what you are going to do. I mean, I am going to call up. 
Speaker 9 01:35:58
My retired GC and just say," Hey, when you want to do that?" Yeah,
Speaker 6 01:36:04
He'll not but eventually, but essentially what you are going to do is you are going to open it here. And he might have a better way or better tool better something. And then once you got a vertical channel. You know. Then you put the hole, just the hole that you want, perfect size. You know, right? And so because they've got like, uh, what do they have new construction and old construction junction boxes. So you want. And so then the old construction I mean, it's not a new house, right? Right. So, what that'll do is it's designed like with these little like flippers, that'll flip up behind the drywall and you screw it in, and then they'll lock up against.
Speaker 6 01:36:50
The you know, so oh, right, yeah. So you'll basically get that first and that'll give you your like. Here's my right, you know, yeah tracer. It's not as easy i make as i'm making it look because it goes like that sure. But and then so you just cut that hole. And then what you do is you put in the romex from that side down, and the studs will guide it to where he needs to be. And just grab it shove it over right, Right.
Speaker 9 01:37:20
It makes sense, yeah.
Speaker 6 01:37:21
So, and then all you really have to do, you know from a from a wiring standpoint. Mhm. Um And I'd check that I probably have never done this myself before in the meaning checked it before I installed it But I'd probably check it just to make sure that, like You know what else is on this circuit You know Oh, I've got the majority of my house on this circuit, and they can't take another amp. You know. Because if I put, because that's got right.
Speaker 9 01:37:52
They've got a heater on it, right?
Speaker 6 01:37:55
Yeah, and so the heater already says how many amps. I mean, If you look at the, but it could be that it's like, yeah, the heaters, you know, like a blow dryer, but everything else on this is so like a printer and a heater on the same. Maybe you move the printer I don't know, right?
Speaker 9 01:38:09
Yeah, let's yeah. The printer is actually. 
Speaker 6 01:38:10
Movingum because everything right?
Speaker 9 01:38:14
And so like that's the anyway.
Speaker 6 01:38:16
Yeah, So right now, what you're going to have is you're essentially going to have a wire going to the outlet. Right? Yep. And, then all you're going to do is take those wires off of the outlet, and we'll call it a hub. And. So now it's going to go to each wire is going to go to a hub, which is a wire nut. Mhm. Right? So the black's going to go to a wire nut. And then you're gonna make this little tiny wire. That's gonna go from the wire nut. To the outlet, Right. Right. And, the black wire that's coming in from the from the new cable is going to go into that wire nut. So now they're all connected. Right. And then you make sure that whatever as you do it, take a picture first,
Speaker 6 01:39:01
Right? As you as you look at it, take a picture of it, right? And then whatever you you see there, make sure you do it there. Right. You know and then when you turn it all on and sparks fly, you did it wrong. 
Speaker 6 01:39:16
No, just that circuit. It's okay. Sometimes, it doesn't even do that.;, it makes all these sparks while your wife's like holding a screwdriver in there. She never she has never helped me again.
Speaker 9 01:39:26
That's right so t here is you have three projects that's That's one, and you do second one is really easy, which is turn this one into a fan.
Speaker 9 01:39:44
With the light on it. It's all already on a, um, well the issue, And maybe this isn't easy, because this this light is a is a is a it's a dimmer switch.
Speaker 6 01:40:03
That's okay. That's all controlled in there. Right. Um so but it's just it's just one power, That's fine. When you buy it, I think I think you're fine. Um, Do the research to make sure that it knows it's only getting one power source, right? Um.
Speaker 6 01:40:42
You are going to want to have to control them differently, right? So, as power goes on, what's to keep the fan from going on when you flip the lights? Right. So, for instance, my fan in my family room, Has The remote on it. Right. And we combined them. So it was just one;. I didn't have to deal with it. So I've essentially that's that's how that works. It's just one switch, right? Um, but you'll notice like oh, but we actually don't use the the light at all. See, they're on or it's off. So the question would be, and I am sure t here is stuff now that makes it better. Sure um where it has like. 
Speaker 6 01:41:38
Hey, this turns on the fan. This button turns on the fan. This button turns on the light, but really that button is sending a signal to the fan. Yeah, And there is got to be a brain in there in order to have a fan and right, right, right. So just do your research on that because if you pull a braiding, you'll end up with something that. Functions that way. Here is the beauty. I. 
Speaker 9 01:42:09
Do all my research through Chat GPT now, So like I need a new, uh microwave because the panelum. 
Speaker 9 01:42:25
No, It hits an error three. And this thing just starts beeping, And so when I was like hey check T, what should I do? And it was like it's probably cheaper to replace it. Yeah. Yeah, that's how I we need to replace ours too. And so, um, but it starts beeping really loud in the middle of the night. So it's unplugged. Yeah, um, And so but it's like okay, well, help me what what fits in this space. You know, it's like, oh, it's a standard thirty inch. In the meantime, yeah.
Speaker 6 01:42:58
I've got an extra Wi Fi plug. Uhhuh in my truck right now and you can. Keep it. Program it, So you keep it on and link it up with Alexa until Alexa turns off at a certain time. Every day. Or use that.
Speaker 9 01:43:17
Just turn off the before I go to bed. Yeah,
Speaker 6 01:43:21
But you'll forget make Alexa do it.
Speaker 9 01:43:23
Yeah, this was for my uh, it's a smart one. Yeah, um but this is for my garbage disposal because I had a, Put something, I had to power something else through, oh my water. I had to power this. It's on the same thing as the electric disposal, right? And. So it's like, well, how do I turn the like? So this switch always has to be on now. Um. And so I plugged something in to it so that it's like, oh, they turned it on and turned turned it off without using the switch.
Speaker 6 01:44:02
The same thing, um, and I installed that's where that plug came from. So I deleted the switch. Mhm. Um, no, I turned it into a an outlet is what I did. It's like oh excuse me, this is another outlet. Mhm. Um. And um that's where I got the that little button that I have now and that all that does is it sends a blow a thing of air. And it's um.
Speaker 6 01:44:34
And then that turns on the garbage.
Speaker 9 01:44:46
So, right now, cause then when when this hall got torn up, the guys who did the work lost this. I found it last week. So it's like shooting. I need a different one, so I got this one and just a. 
Speaker 9 01:45:05
So I get a. But I can't run it when the baby's awake because he. 
Speaker 6 01:45:09
Gets kind of upset. But we can, we can uh get like one just like mine, drill a hole right here and it'll do that same thing. Oh put oh put a button right there. Mhm. Yeah, they're cheap, yeah, they was cheap when I got it, you know, and the hole's easy.
Speaker 9 01:45:33
Yeah, cause we. Did these two holes? Oh, yeah. So Mike came up and put those holes in because he's my guy. Yeah. Um, that's too late. Let's number three. If I was going to open this up, he goes, "Oh, I didn't know you guys had a year's worth. " Sorry teetotaler your daughter's, not uh pure anymore. The third one is successful, as you can see.
Speaker 6 01:46:10
Do you have a switch? Hm. You have a switch. Um. How do we power it?
Speaker 9 01:46:21
I do not have a switch in here. Where would you want your switch? Probably right here, right? Mhm, right. So we just run it to the other. So I'm getting.
Speaker 6 01:46:32
Just so you.
Speaker 9 01:46:33
Like just for what I'm thinking is this is going to move to that wall, so this wall's going to be clear. So it makes I can put it right there.
Speaker 6 01:46:42
So, rule of thumb, yeah. Um, oh that is a wall. Rule of thumb is, I didn't know that's the later too. Lighting's all on different than electric. Um so because but I mean you can pull from whateverum right the lighting's always like less. Um, but you usually want to pull from like the same things, right? Right. But honestly, have you ever seen? Oh, here is the big issue.
Speaker 9 01:47:29
This right here is actually our heater. So. 
Speaker 9 01:47:40
It's a coil heater.
Speaker 6 01:47:43
How much space do you have?
Speaker 9 01:47:45
I actually don't know. I think it's yeah, big. We don't use it.
Speaker 9 01:47:60
So, I mean ultimately, you're gonna have to pop a hole somewhere. Right. Right? And, you can with your phone, just kind of go like this and see where you're starting at.
Speaker 6 01:48:10
Right. Um. Here's what I'm thinking. If your teams go this way, then let's just turn this into a three, you know, switch guy to go up and you run across. Right? Yeah. Um.
Speaker 6 01:48:40
Even here is another option. So if they go this way, use that guy.
Speaker 9 01:48:47
And then just put it on a smart switch. So it doesn't matter really where it is.
Speaker 6 01:48:52
Yeah, I mean you walk in and say," Hey Ziggy," you know.
Speaker 9 01:48:56
Yeah, because right now Ziggy turned off the tree, right? And that guy goes off. But what? The tree.
Speaker 6 01:49:03
But ultimately. What do you want? Right. Right, what kind of lights? So let's just say that you've got those, uh, you know, the circular lights. You're gonna go your switch is gonna go to your first light. And then you're gonna go, You know, and then essentially going to go just kind of the same way I described it. You know over here. You're going to do the same thing. Yeah. 
Speaker 6 01:49:41
Yeah, You know, it's just going to go wire to wire, or you know, light to light to light.
Speaker 9 01:49:44
Yeah, because my my thinking is is I am doing that. I am either leaning on you or Mike. That's fine. Um and but it's like it's getting a plan, Getting timing and even saying like, hey, this might be like a weekend thing, actually go You know, because she's likeow It's like cause she's so nervous about it.
Speaker 6 01:50:07
Honestly lighting is not a big deal.
Speaker 9 01:50:09
No, it's not. She's just nervous about it.
Speaker 6 01:50:11
Yeah, The biggest thing that you are going to have is how do I get power there? And once you get the power there, yeah, you know I'd research like how to what the DC guy probably already knows. There is got to be tools right. That allow me to punch, you know. How do I extend my drill without opening all this up, right? You know, because really, Yeah, for for mine the way it was, and you probably have the same thing. You've got a separation in between floors. If you get your heater there, then you are golden, right?
Speaker 6 01:51:08
Do this first. Well, maybe not do this first. Um, no, never mind. But figure out what lights you want. Figure out how many you need. Figure out where they go, And then whichever one you think is closest to I am still yeah, pop a hole in the first one This one right And, then look around. Yeah, oh, they're going this way. We're going to go with that switch, right? Right. And what do I need to get there? You know, because it could be you open that thing up, shove the wire up, right? Mhm. And you go, yep, there it is. Let me hook it somehow. Right? Right. And you just kind of like with a hanger. You know? Yeah. Um and then once you get that. You know. Then you kind of pop another hole. 
Speaker 6 01:52:05
Okay, this is how we did uhum our guest room. It's like I tied, you know, um I tied the wire to a broomstick and threw it, you know. And then you grab the broomstick and pull back through the hole.
Speaker 9 01:52:24
Yeah, you know. Yeah, no, that's what I envision. It's uh like we just need a little bit of. 
Speaker 9 01:52:35
Just a little bit of space like like in just time, yeah, because I mean with. 
Speaker 6 01:52:45
The recessed lights, you know, I mean, you're you're really, they give you a template and everything you just paste the template up you cut. And then yeah, I've got a Dremel for you that that can uh knock out that hole real easily. My multimaxum you know, easy peasy. So you're really only cutting the holes and then you shove the light up. You just connect it, shove it up, and then there's like these little lock things that. Yep. Done.
Speaker 9 01:53:13
Yeah. No, that's where it's like that; it's easy. It's like it's just I think it's the wire wiring is the difficulty. Yeah, and not. 
Speaker 6 01:53:26
Like once you wire one, you know. 
Speaker 6 01:53:34
You just you know, wiring's once you understand it, you know. Now granted, once you go into like three way switches and stuff like that, but it's really like keep all the black with the black, green with the green. Segregation man.
Speaker 9 01:53:53
So last night was taking a bath, and he looked like he was concentrating. And I was like, what is this? So that's not it. So I'm just sitting there, reading an article, making sure he doesn't drown. Yeah, bud. Here. With the poop? Oh. Uh, buddy, put that.
Speaker 9 01:54:33
Put it back where you found it. As soon as he drops it, it's still the bathtub that didn't fall into his thing. Now look in his pool and water's just brown. It's like, all right, we're gonna we're gonna take another bath. Ashley was like, Oh, thank god. I wasn't in there because I would have never touched his hands again.
Speaker 6 01:54:59
I remember being at Uncle Ron's house in the spa. It was me, Mike, and Eric. I am like," Well, what's this?" And Mike goes," That's poop, dude." Eric had pointed to this spot.
Speaker 9 01:55:14
So man. You know what I was. 
Speaker 6 01:55:20
Thinking about with that? I was like," Oh, I wonder what the'ESF'works." Like you could for here. Oh no It'd be more difficult. But I was like oh, I wonder if he's using that for his door. No, I am using it.
Speaker 9 01:55:41
It's not going the way I wanted it to. It's not long enough, but I was trying to block light, but I didn't get a. I didn't do enough research to get the right thing. You'trying to block this light? Well, that too when it when it hits here. No, the in between so like this right here. So, I may be able to like. It's because this is recessed deeper than this actually goes. Like it would work for me to have it on here on this side, but that won't do the job. It's got to be double. But. 
Speaker 9 01:56:33
You have other things they can use this for.
Speaker 6 01:56:39
Oh, you can put a small right here too, so when you shut it, yeah, like absorbs. Um.
Speaker 9 01:56:48
We're gonna have to figure out how to lock that thing. So he doesn't get out the way he's not supposed to.
Speaker 6 01:56:59
We used to have locks. Remember Mike's house? The window locks. We used to put the little clamp here. Oh, yeah. Or you could even get like a. I mean, you wouldn't want. You don't want to lock it, Locken though.
Speaker 9 01:57:12
No. You know? No, I want like a. Until we go to bed, he can't come out. But like. But or at least inhibit his ability to open the door from the inside.
Speaker 9 01:57:32
And then, like, open it when we go to bed. So, like, if he wakes up in the middle of the night, he's not locked in there. But yeah,
Speaker 6 01:57:40
No. I was thinking safety concerns exactly. So. 
Speaker 9 01:57:48
Especially if I have a heater in there. Yeah, but you uh, you should you know you're going to be in traffic. So You could. I'm good, no, I just needed to. I think I need you to talk me down. That way Ashley doesn't have to. We all go through it, man.
Speaker 8 01:58:24
But yeah, on the other things, just let me know if you need help. Yeah. I'll let you know so. 
Speaker 6 01:58:32
But if you do need help, Then I am going to make you commit to coming to help me with something because my wife's going to be like," I would have loved that." Um, my wife could be like," Wait a minute! I've got stuff for you to fix over here that you have been not fixing." So. 
Speaker 9 01:58:47
See what we should have done is I should have had you meet me in El Segundo.
Speaker 6 01:58:53
But I didn't leave there till. You know. El Segundo with the church? No. Oh.
Speaker 9 01:59:02
Brewing. Hmm.
Speaker 6 01:59:04
Yes, we should have done that. But'cause. 
Speaker 9 01:59:10
At this rate, man, your your drive home is uh going to be rough. It. 
Speaker 6 01:59:20
Is what it is. Means I get to finish a book and who knows maybe I'll stop at the bar just depending on what Billy says.
Speaker 9 01:59:29
Was surprised though you were listening to Hugh because I thought you, Stop listening to.
Speaker 6 01:59:33
Honestly, I have I've listened to about one episode a week. Okay. Um, but I When are we gonna bomb now? That's what I want to know. After the Olympics? Was that what it is? I mean, when do you think about. No, it makes sense.
Speaker 9 01:59:49
They can't do it during the Olympics How long is that? Well, I think another week Okay. 
Speaker 6 01:59:58
So week and a half maybe But, Oh, I didn't get the uh coffee Epstein Instagram thing.
Speaker 9 02:00:08
Uh, It was just me saying like I was just sharing that like when he was telling the recipe. My my mind was like where did you find this recipe twenty ten. Yeah, cause it was Epstein's coffee recipe. And so I was like, like me just going like that's such an old way to make coffee. Gotcha and uh, Like that reminds me of when I used to make coffee fifteen years ago. Like that's the so anyway, it was just me being a coffeenerd. Do I need your clicker to get out? No, if you have to go out to Sentinel, but I'll walk you out anyway. All right. Where are the keys? Where are the keys?
Speaker 10 02:00:51
Did they put them down here? These. 
Speaker 6 02:00:54
Got my hand and drops in that bomb through them. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 8 02:01:18
I Hope that's not mine.
Speaker 6 02:01:23
Ashley just got home. She's somebody parked in my spot.
Speaker 6 02:01:38
You Have a key finder?
Speaker 6 02:01:48
I Can never have something that big on my keys. Another thing to put in my pocket, no way.
Speaker 10 02:01:59
Could it be with all that stuff we pulled off of it?
Speaker 9 02:02:10
Hey, how do we get back to this? And. 
Speaker 6 02:02:16
The remote. Remote's here. So. Every once in a while, I couldn't find it for myself, but I can definitely find it for you. One thing I was trying to do.
Speaker 9 02:02:35
Get all that situated. A couple weeks ago.
Speaker 10 02:02:47
I don't know. 
Speaker 9 02:02:57
What to. 
Speaker 10 02:03:08
Do with it.
Speaker 10 02:03:22
Carl, sorry about that. It's okay. Hey, you guys have a good one. Yeah. Um, But uh, like the other part of it, is. 
Speaker 9 02:03:41
I wanted to move into a two- bedroom condo in this building. A double, My mortgage. It is it's just the interest rates. I know, no, but you you hear what my my discomfort of living somewhere that costs as much as it does as as it does, I saw an associate pastor job in Indiana this week that I was like.
Speaker 9 02:04:19
It wasn't in Indiana, like it was. It was like a small groups and equipping. It was like," Yeah, that's me." But you know what?
Speaker 6 02:04:29
And I am the last guy who should be saying this, right? God wanted you in Indiana; He sent you to Indiana, right? Who's to say? You are right; you are right. And that's kind of what I had this goes:" like But nobody's asking me to go." And if the Lord wants me here in L A. you know. And you gotta figure out how to pay for it, you know. One of my favorite things in the chosen. So those, um, you've watched. No,
Speaker 9 02:04:59
No, but you guys have told me the whole thing so. You can tell me about it. He's like Lord, why haven't you healed me? Yeah, no,
Speaker 6 02:05:06
But I mean like honestly it's the expressions that make it. You know and and uh but he goes and Thomas just. 
Speaker 6 02:05:20
Count the food. more people keep on coming, can't feed everybody, you know. how we gonna do? so, goes to Jesus and he's like, pastor? we got no food? no what are we gonna do? like I'm gonna have to talk to my father. there was one yeah. you know it's just that whole like yeah just this is something I do, you know yeah yeah um. 
Speaker 9 02:05:52
Uh. But. He. 
Speaker 6 02:06:04
Knows he needs. I know, it's a difficult pill, but I'm telling you like. One thing that's been super helpful is just kind of going, And you see this too. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 9 02:06:30
I know. I know, Mr. One, okay, why?
Speaker 6 02:06:39
We we gotta, I'm telling myself this just as much for us Eric. You talk or have you on it?
Speaker 6 02:06:55
Totally forgot.
Speaker 9 02:06:57
I, I remembered earlier today. But I, I forgot. What do you wanna. Do you wanna try and kick it or do you wanna. Spend some time with her? If Billy says," I want to hang out tonight," then. Why don't you call her real quick? Call back there real quick. Like get going and then say. Yeah. And then let me know.
Speaker 6 02:07:25
I was gonna call you brother and I'm like I'm not calling him brother, he's my real brother. I. 
Speaker 9 02:07:30
Was just thinking about uh, a real in which this girl's on a podcast talking to this guy. She's like oh hey, I met Sam Altman on the podcast. He's like yeah. She's like were you nervous? He goes no. You weren't nervous? He goes he's my brother. She's like wait what? Like when Ted Altman, you don't put that together? Well, I just. But the whole thing.
Speaker 6 02:07:59
No, he's been. Yeah, yeah. Been talking to him my whole life. Yeah, right? And tell you what, he is not open. See it? Or chatty.
Speaker 6 02:09:54
Hey, how are you?
Speaker 11 02:09:56
I'm good. How are you? I'm cold.
Speaker 6 02:09:58
I'm doing well. Good. So, I was actually, I just left Sean's place. Oh, I was standing in front of him when when I got your text and it was like, he's like, can you do it? And i'm like, well, don't knowum so It's,
Speaker 11 02:10:18
Okay, Well, i'm i'm beyond swamped too so. 
Speaker 6 02:10:23
Well, if you prefer to postpone, you know we can do that too, right? So here is the deal. Billy's dad died on Monday. Bailey's dad?
Speaker 11 02:10:36
Billy. Billy. Oh oh oh,
Speaker 6 02:10:40
Um So I am waiting to hear back from him on when he wants to hang out tonight. Okay Um and. You know, one of those options was at four, but seeing I was three thirty, and even if I wanted to at this point in time, I couldn't be there by four. You know. Um. So, that's my only like limitation because I am actually like Ashley's like, hey, you know, don't worry about me. I am out tonight with the, you know, I am taking the boys, and we're going to this thing. So maybe tonight's the night for Billy, right? So yeah, um but uh.
Speaker 6 02:11:23
I am going to be driving since you know Sean had a rough day. So I was supposed to just stop by his house and leave, and he's like, "Can I tell you something?" Yeah, and then you know when Sean's cussing, it's a big deal. So sounds like you good? And he's like, "Yeah, you talked me off the ledge. I appreciate it." You know, Ashley will thank you that she didn't have to. But so now it's three thirty, and you know I am just leaving. You know, so which is fine; I don't mind. You know, but. 
Speaker 11 02:12:08
You are usually driving when we do happy hour, so I am never going to. I mean work work unfortunately work is always going to be there. So, I am not looking to cancel. I mean, if it was a short one, I am good for it. If it needs to be, you know, not happen, then that's fine too. I just i enjoy doing them. So you know not that you guys don't i am just saying that i'll take what i can get. You know,
Speaker 6 02:12:35
Yeah, So, i am good. Like i said, i am going to be in the car any either way. So I am good with that. And uh, nope. I would imagine Sean's good with it as well. He said You know, Cause he's like, can you? And I am like, it depends on Billy. He's like, all right, we'll call her and call me back. I was like, okay. So yeah,
Speaker 11 02:12:58
I mean, and we can, you know we can talk until you know Billy, or we could, you know, eat well, depending on the traffic that might be a long time. Um but you know what I mean, uhum I am flexible next week. Chloe's got aum she has to go do the little botox injections. Um. In Charleston, and that's outside of it being a drive. Um, I don't know until the day before what the schedule is. And since it's a um a very easy procedure, we get pushed all the time if you know. Um, at least that's what happened last time. Oh, both times. But anyway, so um it most likely would not work next Friday for me. Yeah, and then we're in March.
Speaker 6 02:13:52
Essentially. Yeah. Okay. Well,
Speaker 6 02:13:56
Yeah, Let's let's just plan on it. And uh you know, and if and if now works better too, we can do now I think now works. It might work for him too. I don't know.
Speaker 11 02:14:08
Yeah I'm good either way I mean I just get a uh gotta go start Chloe's feedum, I just you know get a, Get me a drink sooner if you know. If it's now, actually I won't wait. Either way, just I am so gratefully blessed, but I am so busy.
Speaker 6 02:14:29
Soum, we shoot him a text real quick. Or. 
Speaker 11 02:14:36
I could do that since you are driving.
Speaker 6 02:14:38
What are you talking about? It's already done.
Speaker 11 02:14:41
You know. As as I am like looking at emails and responding to them, I am like you idiot, you need to stop. You have your daughter in the car, which is generally. You know.
Speaker 6 02:14:52
Well see when I text too, I uh I use swipe.
Speaker 11 02:14:57
Oh I can't do that. Bryce is like you need to do that. And like I can't. I mean maybe I just need to learn. I feel so old But,
Speaker 6 02:15:04
I mean, i've been doing it for. I don't know as long as when it first came out, i didn't like it at first. And then. You know, and then I realized I could do it while I drove.
Speaker 11 02:15:16
Yeah, I need to learn how to do it.
Speaker 6 02:15:19
Because I don't even look now, So if I don't even, you know, my and my phone is not like I don't hold my phone, but it's like, right where would hold my phone, if I was, you know. So i just kind of wrap my You know, I just kind of like hold it with my finger, if you will. And just start swiping. Yeah, just to kind of that's it's like the calibration holder you know So, Sean said he can. So let's go over here. Well, let me may. 
Speaker 11 02:15:54
Uh let me run to the bathroom real quick. Okay. So,
Speaker 6 02:15:59
Then you can do I'll say that you'll start the call. 
Speaker 11 02:16:02
Once you're done going potty. Do, you want me to start Is it can I. Can we join the one that's in the. T hing that's in the text? Or is that does it I'm so stupid when it comes to all this crap I feel like an idiot?
Speaker 6 02:16:17
You are not an idiot, just sometimes, you know,
Speaker 11 02:16:22
I'm challenged, and it makes me feel really old. I know how to do what I know how to do.
Speaker 6 02:16:36
I would treat it just like a text. Like even if you were to start up a new text thread, you know, with just us three, it would take us to the old text thread. You know.
Speaker 11 02:16:47
Right. So I could click on. So I could ideally click on the FaceTime that's in the in the text, like up a few threads. Yep. Okay. Theoretically and give me a look. We'll try it. I mean not that I can't figure out how to do a face. I know I have. But you guys usually call me, so that's why I'll be back. All I need is like a minute to go and wash my hands. Oh yeah, I'll be right back or I'll start it in just then. Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 6 02:17:33
She's going to go potty and then she will call us.
Speaker 3 02:18:13
Sean liked your message. But Manon supposed she ought to feel fortunate it had come to her at all. Perhaps she was learning. In any case, as she descended from the walls of Vadiane, The fire that had roared in her chest moments before was simmering away with an astonishing amount of contentment. Because Manon understood that Cyprien II, Fisher King, Prince beneath the Moon, for all his power and his certainty, perhaps did not know everything. After all, if one wishes to conceal a gap in knowledge One can employ grand and obscure references to distract one's opponent from the matter at hand. Moons and tides and lightning, indeed. And if Cyprian did not know how he came to possess Perrin's body, there was a chance he did not know how to keep it. Can you take it from him? As greetings go, this was not the best Manon might have employed. Nor she realized was her question bursting with clarity. Luca looked up from the task in his lap, Mending his calloused fingers, pulling needle and thread with a rough efficiency as Manon's shadow darkened the small room, Small and cramped far more so than the one given to Manon. For reasons she could not quite fathom.
Speaker 3 02:19:09
The room occupied a quarter of the attic floor of Vincenzo's house, spared from the flames. The manor had become something of a focal point in Verdien, which had Vincenzo muttering frequently about his dead father. Whether, he did so out of a wish that the deceased might have lived to see his son earn a vision of leadership.

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