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title: 01-20 Interview: Josh Holmes, Bethany Mandel, Braden McLeish, Taylor Rees, Speaker 9, Trey Goudy
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Speaker 1 00:00:06
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Speaker 3 00:30:34
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Speaker 3 00:53:23
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Speaker 1 00:54:28
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Thank you.
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Speaker 5 01:01:56
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Speaker 6 01:02:27
A lot of focus on the Iran massacre. The numbers keep rising of the mowed down innocent Iranian. We are now at sixteen thousand, according to the Sunday Times in London yesterday. And we don't really know. And then tens of thousands of people arrested, they're probably being tortured, some of them murdered. I still expect President Trump to punish Iran. I don't know that you can do regime change with what weapons we have available to us, but we can certainly punish them. Our number three today, I will talk with Michael Doran from the Hudson Institute about this matter on Tom Cotton and our next segment when we talk with Kathleen Mandel for perspective on this question. But first thing I say about this story that got me this morning: I went on Fox News and talked about Candace Owens and John Roberts's Ben, I thought it was Aisha. It turned out to be Jillian Turner, and I had identified her as Aisha. But I got a video where I could only see that camera cuts here every turn, and I'm not so good with voices right out of the box, but it's Jillian. So forgive my misidentification at the beginning of this, but the story today was about Vice President Harris and her team have now made a number two hero.
Speaker 7 01:03:09
That is astonishing cut number two. Right? Do you do it? They're also both how they do show the only thing more shocking to the conscience than this anti- Semitic trope that the Harris campaign parroted when they asked to take a governor this question is how on earth did they stay hidden all this time? How did it not come out before now?
Speaker 6 01:03:23
I think I should be the only people who talk about the vetting process, other than team Harris and Governor Shapiro anymore. His new book is "Where We Keep the Light." I don't have a copy of it yet. I hope I get a copy of it comes on does an interview with me because he's very smart sort of old school normal Democrat, man on the liberal left but not but not left wing lunacy. That question and there was a second follow up question. First question from Dana Reemus, former White House Counsel Counselor um campaign as like Hillary Clinton's formerly counsel for Obama for not top end list chief follow up Are you in favor of those policies? Have you ever been in touch with women Israeli counterparts? These are some answers today. I just my eyeballs back when I read them because those are classic tropes of the nature of evil. You have dual loyalty protocol, the elders of Zion, Jews run the newspapers, Jews run Hollywood. It's so anti-Semitic and it came in so late. The real question is what did the Harris team think they were doing? We we have had a Jew from the Democratic Party on a national ticket before Joe Lieberman. I am very certain nobody asked Joe Lieberman fifteen years ago, uh are you an agent of Mossad? If you were double an agent Mossad, will you ever be other than an agent Mossad? It's astonishing to me but the Democratic Party has a Jewish problem. They don't like them and the left wing is ascendant in the Democratic Party and it's a burden that. 
Speaker 6 01:04:09
Democratic Party candidates in twenty twenty eight are going to share with Governor Shekar Knight. He's got a re- election campaign in November against the state treasurer, and she's pretty good, so it's not a layup for him in November. But he's a very competentpolitician. He would never lie about something like this. So I am astonished that Dana Remus even agreed to ask it, but I am curious about who in the Harris campaign had sort of old school anti- Semitic uh tropes baked into their brain pack because it's wild.
Speaker 7 01:04:25
The fact that she then said to him, well you know we got to ask, to me uh makes this seem even more malicious in the sense that the campaign very obviously did not have to ask this prominent Jewishpolitician whether he was a double agent uh for Israel and, They certainly did not ask other non- Jewish candidates that question, which really underscores they were suspicious about him, particularly because he is Jewish.
Speaker 6 01:04:41
You're exactly right. Because it's so from outer space, you got to go back to the Lieberman precedent. I'm quite certain Lieberman was not asked if he was an agent of the Mossad. I think they were trying to drive Josh Shapiro off the ticket. I think they're trying to get him to withdraw because he was quite obviously the best candidate for their ticket and Kamala Harris was quite obviously not pro- Israel and remember the Rafah fight? What's going on with that? Going into Rafah? So just I just am astonished by this but uh guess nothing surprises me when it comes to left wing Democratic party anymore.
Speaker 7 01:04:59
Uh here we got leave it there thank you for taking time with us today great talk as always. 
Speaker 6 01:05:02
Thank you. I finally saw her. I said, "Thanks, Jillian." But I apologize, but I just don't have good audio recognition of other people who are not on often. But now under Jillian's, I also have to do the second that was crazy. All right, that's a crazy story. I got my ask into the Dean Shapiro. I would like to talk to Rudy Kwiks about Doctor Mark A., Secretary Clinton's security carry You've been on guest on the program before He's a normal old school Democrat Wrong Not rotten And there's a difference between wrong and rotten Right Rotten is anti-Semitism Wrong is yeah we want to spend more money uh than we have And there's a big difference between the two Second outrage of the weekend happened in a Baptist church in Minneapolis yesterday when it was invaded by Don Lemon and a group of Don Lemon acolytes dressed up as anti-Islam demonstrators Cut number three Uh into Minneapolis. 
Speaker 8 01:05:31
Um, a little bit ago and did some uh some reconnaissance on the ground speaking to organizations that are gearing up to uh for resistance and protest. Um, I've been surprised pleasantly surprised to see the community coming together. Um, diverse communities you see this when we first pulled up were like wait a minute which um which operation are we at? And as it turns out because people were like oh this is kind of MAGA coded right? So the American flag over but these are resistance protesters that are planning operations that we're going to be following along on. I can't tell you exactly what they're doing but it's Operation Pull Up um and it's Keema Armstrong she has been doing this since George Floyd uh Dante Wright and others where they surprise people catch them off guard and hold them to account. So that's what we're doing here and then thereafter after we do this operation you'll see it live in these these operations surprise operations again can't tell you where they're going.
Speaker 6 01:06:00
Alright, uh Don Lemon is never gonna win this spelling bee. And I told you that a hundred times. I used to, I know Don Lemon. I worked with Don Lemon. Don Lemon is a little bit limited by brain space. It's not there in abundance, the tech corner right? Get the remnant So when was the last time you saw Don Lemon? I don't know Maybe threw him off CNN during the brief Chris Licht interregnum Haven't been hired by anybody else So like Jim Acosta he's gone into the podcasting business And good on him They're probably Don Lemon fans If there are people out there paying for Don Lemon... I gotta tell you really, I got a refactored here to tell you because it will actually help you But Don Lemon then invaded a Minnesota church with these people and they violated the baseline Which is a felony, all right? It is a felony of put that on an uh video backup. So he's not with the group. So he's going to claim a kind of journalistic privilege that doesn't exist. The Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act has been around since nineteen ninety four for twenty two years old thirty two years old I can do math I'm a lawyer uh Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act but it also covers churches. It specifically covers churches and it's designed to keep morons like this group and would be pretend journalists like Don Lemon from stunts impeding uh churches and clinics. And it's supposed to be okay that's neutral you'd be a MAGA church I don't think there are many but you'd be a left wing church I think there are a lot of them you can be an abortion clinic. 
Speaker 6 01:06:60
And or you can be April Life, um help winning claim. It doesn't matter, it's viewpoint neutral. Alright so that means it's constitutional. What Don Lemon does not appear to understand is that churches are not public forums. There are three categories of public forums and I have litigated them, I have taught them for years and I'm here to tell you there are traditional public forums, limited public forums and non-public forums. Okay a non-public forum would be for example an email system internal for the elementary school you know mailboxes kids just put stuff in so limited public forum is a park if you apply and you get uh um a permit for a demonstration time place manner restrictions perfectly legit and then traditional public forum is a sidewalk I mean they could stand outside the church but there is no First Amendment right I just want to let people out there don't get your con law from Don Lemon It's like letting me cook for you. Don't do it. Don't get your it'd be like trusting the Browns to get to the Super Bowl next year. Do not do it. If Don Lemon does not have a clue and in the colloquy which I don't have but I heard on the radio that he had with the Baptist pastors, we're here to worship Jesus Christ and Don Lemon is a heretic of this tradition of no, it's not, no, it's not. By the way, they weren't Lutherans in tradition. They sat in and they went to jail. That's what Martin Luther King wrote on Martin Luther King Day letter from a Birmingham Jail Bethany Mandel is the uh wonderful brain behind The Mom Wars dot substack dot com along with a couple of her co creators The Mom Wars dot substack dot com You can follow Bethany on X at Bethany Shondark But I feel a little bit like everyone I asked to go out in high school Bethany if you've been doing you've been busy in the last few weeks yeah washing your hair I know what's going on we were if you've been banished ghosting me. 
Speaker 9 01:07:56
He literally did ghost you. I forgot that we changed our time after I got home from Israel and I have excuses, nice for everything if it's not enough.
Speaker 6 01:08:00
No, that's okay. At least I haven't asked you for a date. That keeps happening to me all the time. They're like, I heard excuses you've never heard of before. Uh Bethanyum, I want to go very serious. The number out of Iran is over sixteen thousand murdered in the streets according to the Sunday Times of London. So I'm using fifteen thousand as a baseline on a proportional basis that's worse than nine eleven, that's worse than ten seven, I think it's worse than Tiananmen Square uh it's horrific what should the United States do?
Speaker 9 01:08:16
Can my dad go from X L to M with walking by Halloween? Regular walking?
Speaker 3 01:08:24
No, I'm sorry. 
Speaker 9 01:08:26
I mean, that's the million- dollar question. Like, what is our what is our moral obligation to the people of Iran? I think that I mean, we're already doing better than than the Obama administration did when similar things happened. Um, you know it's I really struggle with it because there is a reticence on.
Speaker 4 01:08:41
Is this Braden? Hi, this is Christopher from the Fullerton Surgical Center. How's it going? Good and you? Good good. Um so I did talk to an anesthesiologist in regards to the Vivant and they recommend thatum if you, Um, take it every morning andum to continue your doses. And you can take your dose the morning of the procedure with a small sip of water.
Speaker 3 01:09:04
Okay, I will do that.
Speaker 4 01:09:07
Excellent. Thank you so much, Braden. Thank you. You have a good day. You have a good day as well Thanks Bye- bye Thanks. 
Speaker 9 01:09:15
Bye- bye. 
Speaker 2 01:09:20
You know, I get involved in the Middle East because it's just it's a never-ending, you know, pile of of badness. But you can't ever really seem to get out. Um, but I think that we need to be having some conversations with the opposition quietly and ask them very sincerely what do you need? How can we help you?
Speaker 3 01:09:50
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Speaker 10 01:10:04
Yeah yeah I got it. Cool thank you.
Speaker 3 01:10:06
No problem. All right perfect appreciate it. 
Speaker 9 01:10:08
Bye Is that United States can provide support without you know going in and pushing the domino I think that we should consider it. 
Speaker 6 01:10:15
Now, I've been thinking my preferred choice. I've been talking now for three with Michael Doran about this issue for most of the hour. Could you run that? There are really only a handful of Iran experts out there. Michael Doran, Reema Sodhi Kapoor, Mark Dubowitz. There are a few who are not in the government. I'm going to ask him why is Karg Island not smoldering? There are only three oil terminals on the coast of Iran. They ship all the oil that supports the regime to China and other ghost ship buyers through their sanctions. They'll run out of money if we blow up their oil. So I'll get an answer from Mike but what do you think about that? Why don't we do that?
Speaker 9 01:10:33
I mean, I wonder what the plan was It seems like a week ago America was about to do something militarily and I wonder if that was it and I wonder You know especially with this administration you always have to sort of trust that things are going on behind the scenes and and i wonder i i wonder what the plan is i think that there is one. 
Speaker 6 01:10:45
You know, that seems to me an obvious point of attack, but maybe there's maybe there's things going on behind the scenes that we just have no way of knowing. And so I'm kind of trusting a little bit that the right things are happening behind the scenes. I do believe that two conversations last week between Prime Minister Netanyahu and President Trump occurred. I have no idea what they said. I do have a great deal of trust in Chairman Kaine, Secretary Rubio, Secretary HHS Director Raclette, Susie Wiles, The Big Five. I think he has a lot of good options and I do think we're going to do something. Is visible. But I I also see online, I don't think it's fair. People blaming him for encouraging people to protest. And I don't think you can blame a massacre on someone who was saying go for it. The only thing they would have seen is he had one tweet before they were cut off from the internet. They couldn't have heard his interview with me, they couldn't have heard his interview with Sean Hannity, they couldn't have heard his interview with Tony Coppola. They couldn't have seen his tweets over the weekend that were more aggressive. Do you think it's fair to blame him for any of the deaths because this is happening online? No, absolutely not. I mean this is sort of the big tribal expectations, you think that the Iranian people are only getting out in the streets because they think Donald Trump told them so? You You can't get Republicans out in the street because because Donald Trump tells us so? The Iranian people have been suffering under this regime for close to five decades and if they see an opportunity to topple it and you know as I mean these accusations are being made by progressives. 
Speaker 9 01:11:31
And as progressives, I used to be one until the glaring, you know, inconsistencies forced me away from that camp. You have to believe in human rights. And for them to be silent and and progressives are silent on what's happening in Iran right now. For them to be silent is such a abdication of everything they claim to believe.
Speaker 6 01:11:41
All right, now I want into the second question. The story came out in Josh Shapiro's new book where we I think it's where we have the lightum and I haven't got it yet. It doesn't come out till January twenty ninth but it was released by publisher that when he was being asked by team Harris questions they asked him number one are you an agent of Mossad? And he looked at, Dana Remus, former White House Counsel, asked a deeply offensive question. She's right; it's the only way to ask it. And then she asked him," Have you been dealing with Israeli intelligence?" which is like doubling down on the trope. What's your reaction to those two questions? He's not the first Jew that's been on a national ticket. That was Joe Lieberman. I'm pretty sure Al Gore's team did not ask Joe Lieberman those questions.
Speaker 9 01:12:05
Yeah, no, I mean this this really signals the shift that the Democratic Party has seen in the time between Lieberman and now Shapiro. It'sterrifying. The fact that they claim they had to ask it is absolutely absurd. You know my friend Aaron Kayak who used to work for for the Biden administration ripped this question when it was when it was announced that it was asked because it is she was core anti- Semitic: that American Jews cannot possibly be independent patriotic Americans without some underlying loyalty to Israel These questions are never asked, So, a Catholic, what is what are your secret ties to Rome? Like that is an absurd question and it's equally absurd directed towards Jews.
Speaker 6 01:12:28
It is also part of the ancient trope of dual loyalty and not being trustworthy. And it's kind of a blood libel and it's kind of one of the things that no one in there with any experience would ever ask if only because of the political damage it does to Donald Trump. So who do you think came up with that question? Dana Remus, Eric Holder? Someone with Jews on the brain came up with that question and it wasn't I can't believe it was Eric Holder.
Speaker 9 01:12:43
I mean, it could have come from anyone on this panel actually and that's the sad truth. So this excerpt was released to The Atlantic and another tidbit from it was. 
Speaker 6 01:12:49
Um, they went over his personal finances and found out he's not rich. Like I guess that stereotype doesn't play out. And they asked, well, do you really want to spend money on like new clothes and hair and makeup for your wife? Really? And I'm like, oh, that's there you go. Like asking him to do what how cheap he is. That's that was another question. I I also thought it was a little bit on the anti-Americanism front. Yes. Oh, I got to read. You know, they're selling books now and the book is where we keep the light stories from a life of service. I know Governor Sherry O'Connell had lunch with Governor Sherry O'Connell been on the show? I'm not going to vote for him He's wrong but he's not rotten This is nuts And how deep does the anti-Americanism run in in what is quote mainstream Democratic Party Pretty deep Pretty deep. 
Speaker 9 01:13:15
It was so funny because it was to their detriment they announced walls in Pennsylvania they understood the importance of Pennsylvania and he still passed over Shapiro for a far less appealing vice presidential candidate because they were so afraid of putting him in that spot but they shot themselves in the foot. 
Speaker 6 01:13:25
I actually believe they were trying to get him to withdraw because they knew he was the best candidate and they were trying to insult him into withdrawing and now you give me more additional fuel for that theory if they asked him about spending money on her she's free yeah okay Harris go home never come out uh Betty Vandell come back don't don't give us the cold shoulder again don't ghost us again we love you Betty Mandel on X from all of war dot substack dot com I have no idea who sang this song but it captured the hearts of America what year is it Adam I'm gonna guess, Two. Gosh, I have no time. This is Kurt Cignetti if you're watching on the Salem News Channel. And I wore my IU tie on Special Report on Friday night. But I must say that General Wesley might have taken that, like he took my Indiana upgrade out. We are rooting for Indiana tonight, we being people with good faith and generous heart because they haven't won anything in 50 years. So we are all IU tonight, yeah we are Spartacus. But I want to say this Margaret Fratt uh I don't care how Dwayne pronounces your name he likes to pronounce it Margaret in the old English way and I don't don't want to do that Margaret Fratt and I want to tell people although Dwayne took my tie. 
Speaker 6 01:14:14
I still have Margaret's calling card. The university, just not the quilting fabrics, apparel fabric, University of Sewing dot. But I did that's what happened. Could have been Mrs. Wayne. Mrs. Wayne has very sticky fingers when it comes to stuff lying around the studio. I want to play for you Harmy Dillon, who is the Assistant Attorney General for the Division of Civil Rights and Justice commenting on Don Lemon invading uh city church in St Paul yesterday cut number four. 
Speaker 11 01:14:31
Attorney General has been on this from the moment it happened there are already two prosecutors from my office on their way to Minneapolis and they'll be there this morning we have an FBI team assembled and local prosecutors as well this is going to get the highest attention from the Department of Justice because there is no more sacred right, Constitution, then the right to assemble and pray to God. And there are federal laws that protect that right. And what happened here was a shameful exercise of virtue signaling, disruption, fear, terror. You can see children in this video being ushered out the back by their terrorized mothers. And this is illegal. And I want to add that the Biden administration prosecuted people peacefully praying outside abortion clinics for much much less Than. 
Speaker 6 01:15:10
Preacher, but speaker. Have security, a lot of security. And Minnesota is both an open carry and a concealed carry state and it's a shall issue state. Those people are lucky they are not dead. Because if you barge into a church that way, what do you think the dad impulse is? If you're in that church? What if your your carrying me? I don't know if the church is open carry closed carry, you can prohibit private property you can say don't bring guns in here. I don't know what the church's position is. But I don't know that it wouldn't have been justified in the world and the time in which we live if they had opened fire on the Lemonades uh because that is a that is crazy against the backdrop Can you imagine barging into a school these days uninvited unannounced, a group of twenty people I don't know how many people were with Don Lemon and the guy with the microphone. Can you imagine what the reaction of school uh safety officers, AKA police with guns, would... school resource officers? Can you imagine that? This is incredibly reckless. And I hope they... and by the way, Don Lemon being a journalist... and journalism is a crap non-profession. He was on TV for a while. He still calls himself a journalist. Anyone can be a journalist if you're young. The guy who exposed the Somali community fraud, he's even journalism... anyone with journalism is a crap non-profession. It does not bestow on you any special protection, none. You don't get extra rights because you're a bonehead journalist. So they all violated the FACE Act and I would not be surprised to see them all charged by the end of the week because smarled Don Lemon clearly on tape didn't check with a lawyer first because that was a bad move. 
Speaker 6 01:16:08
On with Trey Gowdy on Sunday nights with Trey Gowdy, Sunday nights in America. Last night and I was not bringing good news to Republicans. Cut number one.
Speaker 12 01:16:13
Joining us is host of the" Palm" radio show, Fox News contributor, Wall Professor, a modern day renaissance man Chu Cuit. Welcome professor. Republicans are losing votes in the House and having defections in the Senate and this is all because of what's going on?
Speaker 6 01:16:24
Probably is not the ideal way to take off... Good evening Congressman, good to see you. I uh went back and looked up for the benefit of the audience from midterm results in the second midterm election of two- term Republican presidents Eisenhower Nixon Ford uh W And it doesn't look good for the second term of Trump Back in 1958 Eisenhower saw Republicans lose 49 seats, Nixon, Ford in nineteen seventy four, obviously his second term. Second Nixon, it was filled in by Ford as a resignation. They lost forty eight seats. W held those losses down to five. Reagan held those losses down to five and then W lost thirty in two thousand and six So I think the title charts in the House are against the Republicans So if they're going to get something done they should just take a look at those numbers and realize they better do it in a hurry if they want to impact the election As for the Senate that map you put up I think Senator Collins is safe in Maine She's got twenty million dollars at her Six years ago she won by ten points But Michael Watley North Carolina that's an open seat That's tough We look over Ohio That's going to be very tough as well And so Sherrod Brown is getting back into into the race And down in Texas self inflicted wounds John Cornyn has a layup But for the fact there's a primary with Ken Paxton and. 
Speaker 6 01:17:06
What's the count running and now Louisiana has a primary with Doctor Cassidy. And so now I'll ask him not worry about Dan Sullivan is a very solid, I think real life. But Chuck Schumer is not talking through his hat, it's possible. So what could go from a triple play for Donald Trump could easily see the House and the Senate in Democratic hands, certainly the House.
Speaker 12 01:17:18
Hold on to Texas for a second, I want to ask you about Georgia. Trump and Brian Kemp both won Georgia. Why is that not a prime pickup opportunity for Republicans? It is,
Speaker 6 01:17:25
I think John Ossoff is the Democrat who won in this strange circumstance of twenty twenty And I don't know these shavings yet but there is a three way primary in Georgia two Republican congressmen Mr Dooley some of the famous football coach and whatever happens in that primary will either, Activate and elevate the Georgia general election or depress Republicans again. It's not the ideal situation, never Kemp would have wanted walking away. I wish he had run, but he did not run and we are where we are. John Ossoff luckily is to the left of the left. I think he's considerably left of the Georgia regular electorate. So, I'm optimistic about a pickup there and there's a chance by the way in Michigan Mike Rogers looks really good and uh Republicans should even write off Minnesota after the craziness uh of the past month. I think maybe people are starting to scratch their head wondering if they don't need a Republican somewhere in this state.
Speaker 12 01:17:53
All right let me come home to The Lone Star State There is a war as you referenced between John Cornyn and Ken Paxton with Wesley Hunt running third Uh that race will cost a ton of money which could be used in other states Cornyn votes with President Trump 99 or 100 percent of time depending on which. 
Speaker 6 01:18:03
Count you look at. I mean, that's an A plus even on a Hugh Hewitt exam. What's going on in Texas? What what's going in done wrong? Well, Cornyn didn't do anything wrong. Uh Ken Paxton has he's uh he's lost the confidence of a lot of Republicans but there are a lot of people who like to vote for who they perceive is the most conservative person in the race. John Cornyn is very conservative. He's also the former justice of the Texas Supreme Court and it's a layup if he's the nominee, he's gonna win and I don't even think the Democrats will put money into it because he is very very popular Attorney General Paxton who I know and I like but he shouldn't have gotten into this race because it's wasting valuable resources The same for Congressman West Side House I don't like wasting money time and effort on Lone Star State when John Cornyn is a Trump supporting conservatives conservatives who are very smart, In leadership, everybody uh pays attention to on our judiciary committee. So that is really an unfair on the part of the Republicans. Hopefully, um right now there's an Emerson poll that says it's tied between Paxton and and Cornyn. I have to think common sense will prevail and Cornyn will get the nomination.
Speaker 12 01:18:38
The unparalleled mind of Hugh Hewitt loaned to us on a Sunday night hopefully for free. Thank you for joining us professors as always it is great to see you. Thank you, trade be well.
Speaker 6 01:18:46
Ium I don't know what unparalleled as an adjective means. Don Lemon's got an unparalleled mind too so I'm I gotta ask the former uh chairman of the house oversight committee and he did he led Benghazi select committee gotta ask him what he means by unparalleled cause Don Lemon's unparalleled in some ways too so, He's very nice to me. The only guy called me professor here, I've been teaching at Chapman Law School since nineteen ninety six in the Fowler School of Law and at Con Law in nineteen ninety five, a year before. And they rolled myself out as an expert on torture, but we don't teach Con Law in the first the first year. So I got the second years beginning in nineteen ninety six and been teaching it since then. So uh Trey Gowdy is himself a superb lawyer, he's prosecutor though. I am not a prosecutor and never have been a prosecutor. I have prosecuted warrants so uh I know a little bit about presenting something at court and I have been a defense counsel on at least two that I can recall matters one was the son of a friend on my church session and went into courtroom and i asked the prosecutor to help me out there was flailing and they did and got the young person uh appropriate punishment. 
Speaker 6 01:19:29
Which was not jail time. And then, I represented a real estate developer whose contractor ran over and squashed a desert tortoise. That's a felony. And so, never seen actually the U.S. attorney actually came in to the not nine AUSA dot United States Attorney for Nevada or at least Las Vegas I don't think there are two districts in Nevada it would be the Southern District if there are and he actually came into the room to negotiate and I thought oh boy my client's in big trouble and I'm here without a real defense lawyer but I'll say this about Trey Gowdy you know when he says something about prosecuting listen up meant for a lot of people in jail just want to remind you we've got Senator Tom Cotton coming up next hour. I do want also remind guys we're going to be back here studio and excuse me my driver will be back here on Saturday because I get eleven and a half miles on Saturday which is not bad for an old guy uh i wasn't that i was traveling uh I'm going to bring a clip of the first half of that. Not so good, but the second half of it, I'm back on course. And uh nobody better place to be than Huntington Beach or any of the beaches in Southern California. But I do need my relief factor. I keep saying I'm fine, but I need to form out one up in the bottle this morning. Like Taryn here came into the fair show on Mega you can see if you're watching on The News Channel and You can hear it if you're listening on The Salem Radio Network or one of our other affiliates. And take it every day in the first hour of program because they want everyone to know, you can keep moving, you can work out, you can be a gym rat, you can be a swimmer, you can trundle, you can run, you can race uh You could do whatever you want to do You could beat Wayne's preferred exercise and go Disney World and walk 20 miles Whatever it is your doing if your taking Relief Factor You'll feel better afterwards. 
Speaker 6 01:20:25
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Speaker 13 01:21:01
President Trump strongly believes that we cannot outsource our security because President let me tell you what will happen and it might not be next year, might not be in five years but down the road this fight for the Arctic is real. We would keep our NATO they are NATO guarantees and if there were an attack in Greenland from Russia or from they have some other other area we would get dragged in so better now peace through strength make it part of the United States and there will not be a conflict because United States right now we are the hottest country in the world we are the strongest country in the world Europeans project weakness U S projects strength. 
Speaker 6 01:21:22
And Europe really cannot exist without it. I think this is silly. I think that they think they're dealing with Joe Biden or Barack Obama instead of Donald Trump, who's very serious about Greenland because he's very concerned about hypersonic missiles too and what the Chinese fishing fleet does, and he's not going to let that happen in the exclusive economic zone around Greenland which you cannot patrol with authority unless an intelligence center of the United States protects our territory. And a good Monday to you. Go Hoosiers! Big Ten fan always root for the Big Ten unless it's a team up north in which case you take your best shot. But today is an important day and we'll talk to Michael Doran about Iran now, return to talk show later Tom Cotton coming up after the break about that. And the Iran massacre is at sixteen thousand and counting according to Sunday Times, which is a very reliable reporter of fact. If you haven't seen college campuses exploding protests because they explode in protests only when they can protest against Israel, not when in humanity. In acts that shock the conscience occur, Iran's got ninety million people, China has a billion people. Tiananmen Square as my proportion did not come close to what Iran did last week. Nor did nine eleven through the nation of threat of ten million twenty million down two thousand and one. Nor did uh ten seven twenty three in Israel which was bigger than nine eleven on a proportion basis but mowing down sixteen thousand people in Iran last week is a massacre and then cruelty on a par there is no actually comparison as far as I know so I hope Donald Trump punishes them. I don't believe he can bring the regime down via strikes but I think he can send a very deep and enduring message. 
Speaker 6 01:22:22
That you may not go down your citizens in the street, and they can do that. I think most easily by blowing up car guy one of the other two oil terminals because they'll benefit the people in Iran. They'll get real money into their pockets, and it would be impossible to miss. I'll talk with Michael Doran about that in hour three. Uh I do want to take a moment though to tell you about um John Calhoun because apparently Jacob Fry did not realize he's throwing in with John Calhoun. John Calhoun pretty much every job in the pre civil war period was held by John Calhoun who lived from seventeen eighty two to eighteen fifty He was a senator from South Carolina, he was a secretary of war, I think for Polk, he was a secretary of state I believe and he was vice president He's also something of a self made political theorist And he realized that Jeffersonian political theory, and every other political theory, could not justify the enslavement of human beings. And he was a slave owner in South Carolina. So he came up with his second treatise of government, his first I think there's a lot of Calvinists. I do not bother to read them. He was the animating spirit behind the defense of slavery that began after the revolution and the Constitution. And he was effectively demolished by Abraham Lincoln, his theory was demolished by Abraham Lincoln in the Cooper Union speech and other places. But the point is, he believed-he invented nullification theory in eighteen twenty eight because they didn't like the tariff of eighteen twenty eight national tariff before the income tax. They didn't like that because South Carolina Charleston is a big harbor they didn't like that tariff so Calhoun cooked up well we can we don't have to abide it if we don't want to we can pick and choose we can nullify federal law. 
Speaker 6 01:23:21
And then in eighteen thirty two, when South Carolina started to make noises about actually leaving the union for the first time, they would leave the union or try to leave the union. They never left because of the unitary theory of the constitution and the contract theory of the constitution. And there is no nullification theory; it's cooked up. But the bottom line by nullification theory is we don't have to apply federal laws we don't like. That was repudiated by the civil war and it's been repudiated by, the federal government since The Supreme Court case well there are many of them Marbury versus Madison establishes a right for The Supreme Court to decide it.
Speaker 11 01:24:01
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Speaker 10 01:24:08
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Speaker 6 01:24:17
Here's what actually works: side judicial overview and then McCulloch v Maryland establishes the supremacy clause and the necessary and proper clause, right, and there are other cases that apply to the supremacy clause. Bottom line though, you don't get to ignore federal law if you're a local official. So let's go to Jacob Frye yesterday or, I'm not sure. With Jake Tapper,
Speaker 10 01:24:31
Cut number six, the mayor of Minneapolis does it again. The second these ice agents leave the city, I'm telling you, you're going to have calm in Minneapolis and you will continue to see the great comeback that we had been experiencing. Let us get back to that comeback. Let us live in peace. Let us have businesses that are open and daycares where you don't need to escort staff to and from. Let's live in a place where, you know what I mean? Look, Minneapolis will stand up. We have this sled down ice hills to get to a protest we'll do that if we've got it make sure the people are escorted to the grocery store You know we'll do that But truthfully We want to get back to a place where we can just love on our city Do our daily activities just like any other. 
Speaker 6 01:24:55
Town in America Sounds just like the Confederates Really We just want enslaved people, We just want to have no tariffs. We just want to ignore federal law. Jacob Fry is an insurrectionist, like the rebellion, like the the cause they call it the old cause. There are lots of words for the civil war, but they try and cook up with a bunch of words. If we have to escort people at a grocery store, it doesn't matter if you're escorting people at a grocery store if ICE shows up and by the way it's not just ICE it's federal task force include FBI Bureau Alcohol Tobacco Firearms include Customs Enforcement DHS maybe get TSA to involve themselves all that Minnesota has to do as a state and all that Minneapolis has to do as a city so restore calm is comply with federal law not be a sanctuary city and when they encounter a person in the country illegal an illegal alien and they have arrested the illegal alien. 
Speaker 6 01:25:29
They need to inform and issue a detainer, term of art. That means they call up ICE and they say, "We've got Joe Bag of Donuts. He's in custody. Do you want him?" And if that Joe Bag of Donuts is wanted for he's committed a violent act or he's serving time for a violent act, ICE is going to say yes. And then they don't have to go into grocery stores. They don't have to go other places that they learn that migrants, illegal migrants with violence in their past are hiding now. When they do go after people in public spaces not in jail, they will encounter other illegal immigrants who would otherwise be fine. No one would ever bother them if they're not next to someone for whom a detainer has been issued or a summons has been issued and Jacob Frye is making it worse. I did not make up the line but I don't want to steal the line Ice did not bring chaos to Minneapolis. Chaos brought ice to Minneapolis. Let's do it again. Minneapolis, ice did not bring chaos to Minneapolis. Chaos brought ice to Minneapolis. And by chaos, that includes fraud committed by migrant communities, legal and illegal, on a scale that defies comprehension. I truly am astonished that Jacob Frye Tim Holden and others are adopting secessionist rhetoric from the eighteen thirty forty fifty s in the beginning of the Civil War. The nullification theory has been repudiated since the end of the Civil War with adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment certainly but Abraham Lincoln I think argued persuasively in his Cooper Union speech that no one ever believed in nullification theory at the time of the Revolution now they weren't the first ones. 
Speaker 6 01:26:28
New England states for a while thought they might go their separate way, but they never got close. Shots were fired at Fort Sumter, remember that? So Jacob Fry is on the Fort Sumter side of the line yet, but he tells any of his officers to interfere with any federal agent, he's brought it over for that rebellion. And I know I've seen the reports that serious people are considering prosecuting Jim Walls and Mayor Fry for obstructing federal law enforcement. Man lay their hands on them. If you lay your hand on an officer, you're threatening an officer, you're going to jail. And you cannot do that. And ICE has got enough problems; they had an ambush attack that ended up killing two Texas law enforcement people; I used to, but no ICE agents. But it was an organized long gun attack in Texas; other violence against ICE agents happening everywhere. Stop it! Jacob Fry, Jim Walls and other Blue State Democrats... You know, or maybe you're too dumb to know. I'm telling you, nullification is not your right. There's a supremacy clause and when and if you control the Congress, you can repeal the authorization statutes for ICE. You can defund ICE and a couple of your left-wing lunatics want to defund ICE, but until then, you can't. And Jacob Frye keep making a fool out of yourself. Someone's going to eventually ask you because he went to Villanova Law School and they're reading law school: What about the supremacy clause Mr Frye? What about that? And at that point some journalists will do their job who knows a little bit about the law: Hold on wait a minute I thought the Necessary and Proper Clause gave the federal government the right to do whatever is necessary proper enforce immigration power which was explicitly given into them in Article One and Congress did pass the statutes under which ICE is operating. And you know that this presidency clause is in there as well so what exactly are you saying or what John Teller was saying?
Speaker 6 01:27:25
Did you refer to John Galt from Atlas Shrugged? And not since the end of the Civil War has anyone taken this point of view on this. It's too long to take a break, but it's stupid. You don't want to actually file it. But it is a federal holiday and markets are closed. And apparently the Senate is too because Senator Tom Cotton is usually here, but he's not today. So I bet you that uh the cottons are off on an entrepreneurial venture on a national holiday. It is Martin Luther King Day, I forgot about that for one second and lots of American businesses work on Martin Luther King Day because they give the day after Thanksgiving off to people and we're one of them, but we do honor uh great Dr. Martin Luther King and we'll catch up with Senator Cotton when we can. I want to go back to Scott Besant on Meet The Press yesterday. He had two comments about Greenland We're going to play them again cut number seven. 
Speaker 13 01:27:55
Trump strongly believes that we cannot outsource our security because... let me tell you what will happen and it might not be next year, might not be in five years, but down the road, this fight for the Arctic is real. We would keep our NATO... our NATO guarantees. And if there weren't an attack on Greenland from Russia from some other area, we would get dragged in. So better now, peace through strength. Make it part of the United States and there will not be a conflict because United States right now we are the hottest country in the world, we are the strongest country in the world. Europeans project weakness and US projects strength.
Speaker 6 01:28:16
And then Secretary Johnson added kind of great:
Speaker 13 01:28:18
If we look for years for over a century American presidents have wanted to acquire Greenland and what we can see is that Greenland is... Essential to the US national security. We're building the golden dome, the missile system. And look, President Trump is looking is being strategic. He is looking beyond this year, he's looking beyond next year to what could happen for a battle in the Arctic. We are not going to outsource our national security. We are not going to outsource our hemispheric security to other countries. In Trump one point oh, President Trump told Europeans do not do not build Nord Stream two, do not rely on Russian oil and guess what Kristen? Guess what is funding Russia's efforts against Ukraine? European purchases of Russian oil. So America has to be in control here. 
Speaker 6 01:28:46
Now I am trying to explain this to a number of people who object uh friends of mine family of mine they objected Greenland and I explained to them Greenland has been on the table since twenty seventeen, Donald Trump arrived, as did many other presidents in office, wanting Greenland. And people originally laughed and explained, "Greenland is three times the size of Texas. It is the biggest island, not a continent; it's an island. And it has twenty-seven thousand miles of shoreline. That's a lot of shoreline—twenty-seven thousand miles." Extending out from every yard of those twenty-seven thousand miles is a two-hundred thirty-mile invisible line. And when you connect up all those dots around two hundred thirty miles out from the coastline of Greenland, that is their exclusive economic zone. They can exclude from the exclusive economic zone fishing fleets like the predatory massive Chinese fishing fleet which routinely attempts to enter into other countries' exclusive economic zones and. 
Speaker 6 01:29:22
And take all the fish. That's one thing we want to prevent. By the way, Denmark has twenty ships. They can't they can't possibly do that. They're not even expeditionary ships. They cannot possibly protect the exclusive economic zone. They would have to ask us to do it, like NATO has asked us to do everything since World War Two. They're beginning to figure out they better pick it up and Donald Trump got them on a plan: we get the two percent now, you get the five percent and a lot of people in NATO are upset because Donald Trump is not uh discreet he is not subtle Donald Trump is a hammer on the wall We need to have real estate by how it can be a territory like Puerto Rico, like Guam or it can be a protectorate like the Marshall Islands, like many other or we can have uh four hundred year lease The deal is though, China will act in a predatory fashion like they do everywhere else. So will Russia. They don't have an efficient, clean Russia. And not only do we need to exclude hostile powers from the alliance of tyrants, we also need to forward deploy the Golden Dome because of the advent of hypersonic missiles. I've talked to many people on this program about hypersonic missiles. They're nasty. They're nasty because ICBMs, the old intercontinental ballistic missiles, they used to have to go up on launch and then they would go through an arc and the arc would be predictable and you could see where they were and you'd have fifteen to thirty minutes to shoot down an ICBM if you have any capability of doing it with a THAAD interceptor or in the case of Israel, an Arrow. There are other different ways that is not the case with hypersonics which don't go in the big arc don't leave space and come back. 
Speaker 6 01:30:21
Uh, into Earth orbit. Hypersonics can launch from airplanes, they can launch from trucks, they can launch from anywhere. Now Golden Dome and Golden Beam like Iron Beam which the Israelis are now deploying will be able to take care of them if they're forward deployed. But you're going to need more response time. And that's what Greenland is going to become: a forward operating base for Golden Dome. And so it's not a joke. If you make it a joke, you're revealing yourself as unserious. Remember Jonathan Swift? Better remain silent and be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt. Don't try and argue Greenland isn't necessary for national security of the United States because it is don't try and argue that China isn't a threat it is China is engaged in the gray zone already from somewhere between zero and one on the conflict scale they're between zero and one they haven't won yet but I opened kind of conflict that's why But it might be that might be coming to our heart, we don't know. But they are predatory power. Mark Carney going over there from Canada and saying, we have an alliance with China is astounding. They're a genocidal Marxist totalitarian prison camp with Jimmy Lai in jail. And they will eventually come like I said, they almost fished out the Galapagos, one of the most pristine and protected environments in the world. Chinese went there fishing because they don't care. They're a predatory country with global ambitions to be the only superpower. And that's not going to happen, but we need to be very realistic about what our grandchildren will need maybe even our children will need which is a national security policy based on realism Donald Trump is the punisher We don't want to punish Denmark We want to punish NATO We want them to join us in the realism club This is the way the world works. 
Speaker 6 01:31:19
China is a predator. It didn't work out. Bill Clinton let it into the WTO, it did not work out. We thought Deng Xiaoping and the two presidents that followed and the two general secretaries that followed him was going to integrate China and didn't work out. They turned out to be stealing everything they could nail down, to build the largest navy in the world, to expand their nuclear uh weapon arsenal, and to unleash a variety of coast guard ships that are really navy ships, correct? And build giant roll-on roll-offs and to do their predatory fishing fleet. And we cannot let that get close to the United States or the Arctic. China's declared itself a near-Arctic power earlier this year. That's just giving them an excuse to go where they want to go, get the fish that they want or go after these exclusive economic zones. I want you very careful on this segment because Dick Mattis is coming up next segment I'm going talk him about... The anti-Semitism... Let me play you back clip again with...
Speaker 3 01:33:52
Yeah. So I can, you want me to go forward now? Yeah, so we can have protection. Yes. Tell me when.
Speaker 1 01:34:52
After This good. 
Speaker 3 01:35:03
You good I was struggling. 

[AI_SUMMARY]
The interview discusses various topics including a patient's pre-surgical preparations, allegations of anti-Semitism in the Harris campaign, legal critiques of Don Lemon's church protest, U.S. responses to Iranian protests, Minneapolis's sanctuary city policies, Republican election strategies, and the strategic importance of acquiring Greenland for national security. Key themes include criticism of progressive hypocrisy, the need for strong U.S. foreign policy, and the implications of divisive intra-party challenges for Republicans.