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created_time: 2026-02-17T02:34:00.000Z
title: 02-16 Family Discussion: Theology, Grief, and Daily Life
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Speaker 1 00:01:29
But I also, you know, I mean to me the fact that he can read that email to you and not go. You can't talk to my guy like that. Right? The fact that he said, what do you mean? You know.
Speaker 1 00:02:01
The point, right? And and I get that you're protecting him now and you're seeing this, But and I and I also get that he's new to leadership in this way. But let me take it maybe too far. He wouldn't let somebody talk to his wife that way. One of his children that way, right? Um, and it's his job to protect you.
Speaker 1 00:02:32
So. Um. Oh, hey, let me show you back. Alright, thanks. Bye. Oh. 
Speaker 2 00:02:44
Good yeah I was gonna ask you how's she doing? Uh She's been sitting at home, I would imagine So she's out of commission for Oh, a long time. I mean, I don't even know how hard can she even work? Six weeks Oh easily Yeah Well, How was your interview? She probably still has to take the baby to daycare. No, she can't even. That's what I'm saying. So Sean takes the baby. Oh, that's what I'm saying. So he's like,
Speaker 1 00:03:10
I heard you guys right now? Yeah, for next week. So, he said the biggest issue he's having is keeping the baby from climbing on top of her. Oh, of course! Yeah! So interview went well.
Speaker 1 00:03:30
It was the first time I came out of an interview thinking, he knows I can do the job.
Speaker 3 00:03:35
Okay. So,
Speaker 1 00:03:38
Um, I'm my own worst critique and so I Oh, aren't we all really? So I'm like, eh, Could have done this way and this way, and then Chat GPT told me it could have been better. So'cause I record them and I feed it back in,
Speaker 2 00:03:56
Which isn't a bad thing'cause, then you always know what you're. Yeah, you know, areas that you want to, you know, change on or or you know adjust and how you, you know what you say. And yeah I get it.
Speaker 1 00:04:10
So. And this is the one that You know I've kind of anticipated crashing or burning a little bit on this one. So I could so I could get ready for tomorrow.
Speaker 2 00:04:22
Yeah yeah okay Did you work much today? Or did it just.
Speaker 1 00:04:25
So Oh my gosh. I didn't work at all today that way. But I expected them to like really take me through my numbers because they were saying like he's going to make you like walk through your P and L. And so I spent the day on my P and L. So it's but it's try you right? So I spent the day working for try you preparing for my interview.
Speaker 2 00:04:46
Right, right. We had a we had so much water at the house that rained for so hard, so long in the back, the patio off the retreat had so much water on it. Thought I was sitting out there in my retreat, I was sitting in the retreat, and all of a sudden I look out there and I am like, "Oh my gosh, t here is just much water out there. " The drain was like blocked from, you know, whatever the trees had put down. And so I had to go out there and add it. And thank goodness because right where the patio goes out and the you know the railing goes up, if you look because I was thinking about it. You know, i mean, i tell larry this all the time when i go, you know, we can't let.
Speaker 2 00:05:26
Water sit out there because the patio sits right over the area of the kitchen. He's like, "Oh, it'll be fine." Well, it's not fine. The edge where the you know where the big window is where the where the ceiling hits, the it's all wet. It's like okay, So it either needs to be resealed or it needs. You know I mean, you can't touch it, because you know, you can see it. You know you can see that that it's wet and I am like, Okay, so anyway,
Speaker 2 00:06:00
No, No. I am not sure. I don't know if it just needs to be sealed again or if he thinks, and it's possible, you know, Oscar came, and he there is a piece of wood there, or maybe the maybe it was so windy. And the way the rain was kept coming in, it came in at an angle because the doors were all wet. You know, the windows, those spyful doors. Bifold doors were all wet, so I don't know if it was just but literally here's the patio. You know, Right at that edge is right down below. It is the edge of the is the edge of the ceiling of the inside the house, and it's wet. So it either just had too much water, you know, and it I don't know. You know. So we'll have to take a look at that. But I'm just glad that I, oh, my gosh! I need to go out there do that well. 
Speaker 2 00:06:53
Outside in the patio too, you know where we have the awning, you know on the. It's like we had this much water sitting out there again too. You know and it's just like the drain just can't, you know it doesn't drain fast enough so. Yeah, I'll see. I mean it just it is solid. It is so wet over there. How's your how's your window?
Speaker 4 00:07:14
It's literally that crack that is just yeah I'll see yeah sorry mine are. 
Speaker 1 00:07:29
So, really, it just you go right here. Oh, okay. So it literally just drops right through the screen from that crack right there. Drops right under here.
Speaker 2 00:07:41
Okay, yeah. So Well, You see Nothing I'm just saying I was going to try to tell you what it looks. So it just looks It just looks wet It's about that long and about that. Why, like you know, right where it butts up on the inside. I don't know. He's gonna have to stay together. He's just gonna have to, you know, see how much rain we continue to get for the next couple of days. But the water just has to stay off there; it can't sit on that. And you know, I was sitting up there for a couple of hours working on something—an hour and a half—we had done a bunch of stuff—and so I said. I was trying to have my Bible study to work on.
Speaker 2 00:08:26
I learned something I did not know today too, which is really interesting. Never happens to you, right? The older I get, the more I realize how little I know. Yeah, about Esther. I didn't realize that the reason or the scholars think the reason Esther didn't go to him when he summoned her is because she was either still pregnant. Or I just had a baby, and she thought that it was going to be kind of a lewd thing, and she didn't want to participate or she was, you know, body.
Speaker 1 00:09:05
So not when he asked her the Oh Bathsheba,
Speaker 2 00:09:11
Bathsheba, yeah Queen Bathsheba. Sorry. Yeah it's in the book of Esther. I mean and it was like, oh that oh And I also Who is it?
Speaker 1 00:09:19
Marcel's friend Oh gosh, And all he's like I told him just to call later. Cause if you don't answer, you're busy and it's like, dude always calls me. I've never talked to the man actually. He always. Who is this guy? He's in jail looking for a job when he gets out. Um. And it's like. But every time he calls me, I'm in the middle of a conversation and I'm not going to be like, hold on.
Speaker 4 00:09:40
Okay let me stop you with this inmate yeah. Oh that's sorry. Well, if you need to speak to him, you should if you feel like so No I mean,
Speaker 1 00:09:47
I just no. 
Speaker 4 00:09:49
It will Then what'd you make of it? I asked him to make, he makes uh, fourteen banana bread muffins that he and his daddy eat together.
Speaker 2 00:10:00
Yeah, we made uh we had an experiment today.
Speaker 1 00:10:04
More bananas. More bananas.
Speaker 2 00:10:07
Oh, I want to tell you how to get uh shells out of yourum you wet your finger. If you get shells in your eggs, You wet your finger, and that's how you touch the uh I thought you did it with the eggshell that works too. But if you wet your finger and touch it, then the eggshell comes out where are going. So, um. Oh, and uh. Um. Oh, those are gonna make the best banana bread. The darker they are, the sweeter the banana, the sweeter that both of them. Yeah, you'll need both. Okay, both. Yeah you'll need oh is ours it for muffins? I don't know if it's yeah, you can use both. Just you can use both, just you need to do. 
Speaker 1 00:10:45
Maybe even a third. 
Speaker 4 00:10:46
A longer cooking time. Um so do it close. A third. Mom, I don't want to put the rug on my credit card. My credit card bill is already high from buying this.
Speaker 2 00:11:03
Or I'll give you my credit card. Let me get it.
Speaker 4 00:11:07
What? Oh, just suggest that. Which one did you decide? I know what you're talking about. Oh, I'm gonna. He wants me to buy everything on your credit card. What credit cards? I just. The problem is is that I put R C S i like, I do the CSI events that I that our organization does. You don't have to. Well, I want I don't want you being like. Uh I have to just they owe me eight thousand dollars. And they. It's fine, don't worry about it. I was gonna say,
Speaker 2 00:11:36
Do you want my credit card and you and I just didn't think about it? And soum. 
Speaker 4 00:11:41
But which one did you decide on? Um, I'm gonna go with the striped one. Wait, mom are we getting a new rug? Yeah, Granny's giving us one. Thanks Wait so it's gonna go under the couch? No, it's gonna go over the couch. 
Speaker 4 00:11:55
Well, there's many places. 
Speaker 3 00:11:57
You can put a rug.
Speaker 1 00:11:60
Over the couch,
Speaker 3 00:12:01
Under the couch.
Speaker 2 00:12:04
Over there? That's true. This is very, very true. I'm sorry your mom's mean. You're a hundred percent correct. I'm funny though,
Speaker 4 00:12:13
Right Ben? I measured this and it's like.
Speaker 5 00:12:37
I'm Not quite sure where it ends. It says ten feet by nine feet. If I go from here all the way. 
Speaker 5 00:12:52
To the back,
Speaker 4 00:12:53
I'm not quite sure that's accurate.
Speaker 4 00:12:59
Right, well, I think that all come because we looked at it, and they're like, oh, give them more, give them more now. So I had to like be like somebody get it because you looked at it. And now you're. Oh because I looked yeah oh yeah. Wait mom did you win the auction? Did you get any stuff for lunch? So we got a free one. I don't know. Free air pod? How to how to this. 
Speaker 3 00:13:20
Meat auction. 
Speaker 1 00:13:22
Is that was like dude, cause there's Mike's like yeah dude he looks like a drug dealer.
Speaker 2 00:13:27
Oh, the guy that was waiting out front? Yeah, he's like a mystery guy. I thought he was.
Speaker 1 00:13:33
Huh? There was a guy Sunday night that had dark skin. And Mike's like," Who is that guy?" He went inside to tell us something.
Speaker 4 00:13:43
Yeah, he did. Yeah, but she's getting. She always gets work done and stuff. Is he out there right now?
Speaker 1 00:13:47
No, but she's. He's like. She's on the phone! On the phone! And then like people. People would like drive up, and he grabs something out of his car, and he gives it to him. It's almost like he's dealing drugs.
Speaker 4 00:14:02
I mean, I know that her boyfriend is a contractor, but I haven't seen either. He's from Barstow or something like that. Yeah, I saw. 
Speaker 2 00:14:16
Him there too. And then somebody pulled up and then he was like, he was there when I came and then. 
Speaker 4 00:14:25
Andum, Yeah. So an eight by ten rosin? Okay.
Speaker 5 00:14:34
How much? How much is this one?
Speaker 1 00:14:39
She eating? No, she went into the garage. Did she eat it?
Speaker 1 00:14:59
You hit it. You got it. Hey, by the way, wrong Indian. American Indian rain dance.
Speaker 3 00:15:18
I told him uh to do the rain dance, and then he said, okay, take a video like, oh, oh oh oh, oh.
Speaker 4 00:15:33
I know. No, you went to your dad's.
Speaker 5 00:15:44
It is stupid.
Speaker 4 00:15:50
I've bought you your iPad on my phone. We gotta do something about this. But it can't stay there.
Speaker 1 00:16:31
You do the rest of them, all of these. She doesn't drink. She doesn't drink anything. She just and I am getting like all passionate. I don't really care, but my point is we have all this crap. So if you want any of it, Like take it,
Speaker 2 00:16:54
I i you know what? I just i craving something and I think the only reason I am craving is because. So, this guy Warren Wiersbe, have you ever heard of him? Warren Wiersbe. He's dead now, but he did he was he was you know Moody, you know in Chicago and you know pretty well known. He's done quite a few you know books and Bible studies and whatever. He's dead now, but not hasn't been dead that long, but so he was an old guy. And, he's the one that wrote this. Esther it's called Be Committed That's what it's about Esther and Ruth Okay Yeah So.
Speaker 2 00:17:29
In this story of Esther, the first chapter, He's talking about how his king Xerxes' drunkenness and drinking is a part of his problem. And there are three things I should know these. So, drunkenness, vindictiveness, and one other thing. Anyways, and so he's saying: So, one of the questions is which I hate these kind of questions, but anyway. So, And he's talking about drinking, and basically he does two full pages on drinking, how you should not drink. And he tells you all the reasons why. And you know all the scriptures for it. And I am thinking, and he said this. I thought this was the weirdest thing because I can't quite figure it out. He goes yeah. Well, people will say one of the arguments is well, Jesus made wine, you know, Jesus drank, and he goes yeah, but, he says and then he explains that. 
Speaker 2 00:18:29
And then with scripture, and then he goes," Yes, but Jesus isn't. He goes,'Jesus isn't drinking now.'" And I said," Well, no because he's not. 
Speaker 2 00:18:38
Human; He's not as. But it's weird. I thought now okay well so what is your take on that? What do you think?" It goes well He isn't drinking now because." And then you get you know I wish I had it.
Speaker 1 00:18:49
I should have said to him," He. 
Speaker 2 00:18:51
Absolutely says. 
Speaker 1 00:18:53
We will be feasting in heaven." You know you don't feast without wine.
Speaker 2 00:18:58
Well, according to him, you know, alcohol is the root of all evil outside of money and whatever. And I just was like, it's. I mean, it's. And I thought to myself," Well i have god has not If I don't want to drink, I don't have to drink. I don't drink in front of Cheryl because I know she, you know it's a problem for her." But am thinking to myself," God has not convicted me of this. I don't like just you know sit and power down," you know and get into. 
Speaker 3 00:19:26
No like, Paul, Paul prescribed that to Timothy.
Speaker 2 00:19:30
Have a little wine. 
Speaker 1 00:19:32
For your stomach, is what he says.
Speaker 2 00:19:35
I know, and then he did. He went through the whole thing; he gave all the. I clearly know what his view is. His view is you should not be drinking period end a message And I am thinking, I want to try it. Touch. 
Speaker 1 00:19:50
This agree to disagree, brother?
Speaker 3 00:19:54
What's chili?
Speaker 2 00:19:56
And so I know this conversation is about smart, you know. But. 
Speaker 1 00:20:03
I just thought that would be just really. You know, if you want me to look into it, I am happy to look into it. But the reality is like t here is so many places throughout Scripture that you know, I mean, if Jesus was against it,
Speaker 2 00:20:21
Wouldn't He have said it?
Speaker 1 00:20:23
What were you doing in my garage? Alcohol. Proving that she doesn't have an alcohol problem.
Speaker 4 00:20:29
She's just sitting there forever looking at it, I was trying to see what she just step waters you had. I have a might, do you want to or I have any other ones that you like the Long Island? You do, you have one? I think I have Long Islands.
Speaker 1 00:20:41
We've got everything. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:20:43
I'm just, didn't see one to get ithuh? I didn't see one. Not a big deal. So anyway, so I just had a laugh, because I was like. It almost makes me. I am thinking, well, you know, God has not convicted me of it. Well, you know, do I drink to get drunk? No. Do I just sit there and just like you know no? But you know what I am thinking. I know that a lot of pastors don't drink in front of others.;, they might have it because of the very reason that right,
Speaker 1 00:21:13
Right, right You know. That's the thing i have never met a pastor. And i am, of course. Haven't met many Baptists either, but you know, I've never met a pastor. You know, but it doesn't say it well.
Speaker 2 00:21:28
That's yeah, I agree. It doesn't say it was Irkstein's one of his big issues. He'd been drinking for like seven days. I mean, And scripture clearly says when he was, you know. 
Speaker 1 00:21:41
But scripture does lay out plenty about. The abuse of alcohol, Right? And drunkenness and stuff like that. And it talks clearly about all of that.
Speaker 3 00:21:55
I know, but I just think.
Speaker 1 00:21:56
And so, of course, you know, people are going to go like" Yes," so just stay away from it, right? It's like" Yeah," that's why I stay away from women too. You know, I don't ever talk to women because you never know.
Speaker 2 00:22:06
Because you might get. You might have a bad thought. So God forbid. You know, I know. I just thought. I don't know. It'll be a curious conversation because I know that Tony doesn't really drink. I know that one of the other gals, she drinks wine, you know. Um, I don't know where Susan stands and I, you know, and usually.
Speaker 1 00:22:27
Is it a woman's Bible study?
Speaker 2 00:22:28
It is. And and usually what I do when we go out with couples that I know are Christians that we don't know. I'm i say this to them:" I say i i would be offensive to you if I have a glass of wine with dinner." Invariably, they always say," Oh, it's fine. No problem." But I am thinking, I don't know them. I don't know what their stance is. I don't want to you know like push the apple cart. So I am just going to put it out there, and they can say one way or the other. And if they said," Well we don't drink,", we prefer you not well like Karen Hannan and Jeff Hannan They don't drink, so right, They don't have it on.
Speaker 4 00:23:08
Get me off. You want me to take everything, just mix it all together. There you go That's a downer.
Speaker 2 00:23:14
I can work. I don't need it. I am just being silly, so, anyways, so I was just thinking about that. I know it's just crazy. So, When is, would you would you want us to go to the service for your uncle? No, no, yeah i would like like. 
Speaker 1 00:23:37
No i appreciate you offeringum but. 
Speaker 1 00:23:45
You know, I'm just going to support my family. He's less entitled to go than I am. So, really? Yeah, he's so mad. Oh, is he? So, he went when they went to like. So he went back and then he's like, yeah, we're gonna go to the bank right now and I'm like.
Speaker 1 00:24:18
What. As soon as I get there, I'll. I'm gonna be pissed. Whatever I find. And he's like, typical my dad, right? Like, yeah. You know the way I am. It's just like. you know. whatever it is, it is and you know we just move on. Like okay cool That's good So a few days later, he snaps at me and I'm like what's your problem? And and he goes you know, You remember this conversation where you said, and I'm like," Yeah," and he's like," I'm sorry. I cannot get over how could you do this to your mom?" And I'm like," We still. 
Speaker 2 00:24:58
Love." So that was a month ago. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that's why it's like. Well, I just. I want to be respectful to your dad and your, you know, and I know your grandma's not going but still.
Speaker 4 00:25:15
It would be different if it was his grandmother. Right. You know, like we'd feel a lot differently about that. Do you want to go to Bill's? Oh, that's right. We don't know about that Billy's dad died, his best friend's dad died.
Speaker 1 00:25:29
Oh I'm sorry. 
Speaker 4 00:25:30
That lives over in Downey So So.
Speaker 1 00:25:33
That's the following weekend.
Speaker 4 00:25:34
Oh good. I know That won't be Are. We all going? Um, no. Yeah. Mom and I will talk about it. We gotta figure that one out because it's weird because Teja's gonna be in town too. Oh, is Papa gonna be in town the same week as Teja?
Speaker 1 00:25:54
I didn't even know they had a same set, so don't worry.
Speaker 4 00:25:56
Okay, no, I was thinking about. She's gonna tell her mom now or she's gonna tell her mom right? She got to tell her family,
Speaker 1 00:26:03
And then you have to bring up the fact that you know stuff from the patient, and she's going to work two, two and two out in like three weeks. Okay. But you don't know this.
Speaker 1 00:26:18
That I don't know about.
Speaker 4 00:26:19
Well, apparently they didn't wait long enough. No, it was like, but that was why because it was like, are you kidding me? She's been very upset about it. But her mom doesn't even know. Neither does his parents. Nobody does. So I was the first, like she told me. 
Speaker 5 00:26:32
When she first stopped. 
Speaker 5 00:26:51
Bailey. A Bailey bird. Oh! What? I. 
Speaker 4 00:27:02
Don't think she knows that. I don't think you guys know that. Are you blue bird, Bailey bird? Maybe, I mean, but I mean that's a, I mean that's a baby. This is my wife would have been better.
Speaker 1 00:27:16
Yeah! Red bird! Ready? These will go with everything.
Speaker 2 00:27:21
So pretty. Ready, girl? Oh! Did she know what? Yeah, she just got it today. She told me today. She's having a boy or a girl? Yeah. Oh, well. I mean. No, I don't mean it like that. I mean that's nice. That's nice to have a surprise baby shower, yeah?
Speaker 4 00:27:42
Surprise! Nobody, but nobody can say anything when you guys talk to her fifteen weeks ago today. It's okay! She was so upset when I should help you. I know. She was like, she was so mad. She was so mad. I was like, oh my gosh, I said this is, I'm not going to do this again. This is great! This is great! You're going to be fine because the third time. You were like. Oh no! No! And then he's like. So I responded poorly to that, right? Okay. That's a good idea.
Speaker 4 00:28:21
I don't have anybody to share with. You can share with Dad, have no but you don't share with Danielle Brian. I haven't talked to Danielle Brian about it. I don't want to like she hasn't told her mom yet, but she asked him not to tell her mom. Well Danielle, Remember, Danielle didn't tell us until it was like for more than so. She was so, but she's going to be here in two weeks anyway. So I feel like when she's going to be here is that baby is going to be here in two weeks? Is she feeling okay? She said that this is by far her best pregnancy as far as how she felt. She's just super upset, so. Why she's so upset? Because,
Speaker 2 00:28:56
She wasn't they weren't planning on another having another, they weren't going to have another child. And it, you know, it's not their plan, it's God's plan. And he had a different plan. But just like did Not. 
Speaker 4 00:29:14
She Was not. She was like in denial about it. Not in, She's just having a hard time. So that's why, like at this point, so it happened before you got here. Before you got here, yeah, before. Well apparently now they already had it there. Well they don't use well like, so they family plan those places. Because I. 
Speaker 1 00:29:38
Love t here is no conversation I love more than going through what happened with Brian.
Speaker 4 00:29:47
So like. 
Speaker 4 00:29:50
Apparently, they can't like that. Yeah, they like the Catholic, the uh, the because birth control bothered like it. She said it messes with her. And so, like so but yeah. I know Martha's still here. I know Like. 
Speaker 2 00:30:10
At one point I was like okay, Truthfully, the only you know what my dad would say. My dad would say," You don't want to get pregnant. I have a surefire way.: pull an aspirin between your knees and yeah be done with it." It will not happen. You know, so. 
Speaker 4 00:30:24
Yeahum yeah anyway so get used to that. You are going to see her, and she is going to look good when you get, are you going to have everybody uh, over that can visit? Yeah, I think I. 
Speaker 4 00:31:09
You didn't tell me about your bowling uh your bowling experience.
Speaker 2 00:31:12
Was it, did you like it? Did you have fun? You didn't really tell me about it. I didn't ask and you didn't tell me. Well, I feel bad boy uh for uh for for Ashley she's Yeah, you brought that up already. That'd be so hard to eat the toddler, and you know, they, the more you tell them, no, I can't get you the more they want to eat them or You know.
Speaker 4 00:31:35
Honestly, I feel like it's meant to be. I mean, like, put Shawn a little bit more in the driver's seat of things. And I mean, she's gonna have to learn how to let some of that stuff go. You know? Because ultimately, you can only tell somebody what to do so many times before that person just turns out. And is like, I have it. You know? It's kind of like anything else. Like eventually like when we had two kids it was like all right, Like you can't just be like you hold the baby, then I hold the baby.
Speaker 4 00:32:07
With the baby, you know, it's like Sean's gonna have to put him down. You know, like and she's not gonna be able to like co- sleep with him or whatever. Do you do that a lot?
Speaker 1 00:32:18
So well they just like Sean was putting together a toddler bed on Friday. Oh good for him. So I guess he so I guess, so Sean slept next to the on the floor crib next to the floor. He woke up in the kitchen.
Speaker 2 00:32:43
I mean, you think this is partly because it's like this is the only one, it's the only one in a house. So I am just gonna, I don't wanna. She's well,
Speaker 1 00:32:52
She wants to know about him. I don't know, even even though he's not, he's not me in that kind of stuff, right?
Speaker 2 00:33:02
He's you know, Well, and you know, and the oh, and the first one is definitely your, you know, you've never done this before. They're the trial. You know they're your they're your test case. And it's like that you don't have any more to, you know to work on. So, it's just like you know, if you keep thinking that feel it's gonna be You know I'm gonna do it differently and. 
Speaker 3 00:33:28
Oh That's what it is So.
Speaker 1 00:33:35
That's where I just don't know.
Speaker 2 00:33:36
But maybe that's because you knew this was the only one. No,
Speaker 1 00:33:41
I mean, I just, I personally have always had the understanding that like no, when you say this you're saying no to me. Right? You don't get to do that.
Speaker 2 00:33:52
Well, we definitely we teach them by we teach them one way or the other. We teach them right. 
Speaker 3 00:34:00
One way or the other we're always teaching them You're teaching him, it's okay or you're teaching him, it's wrong.
Speaker 2 00:34:04
It's one or the other. And and no matter what you do, you're still training them. You're still training them the right way or you're training them the wrong way. And and yeah, so you know, and I and you know say what you mean and mean what you say. Consistency is the key. And that's hard. That's just, you know, It's hard It's just hard. You know if your. 
Speaker 4 00:34:29
This is your security code, that's three zero five, right?
Speaker 2 00:34:31
No it's on the front. 
Speaker 4 00:34:32
Oh it is. 
Speaker 2 00:34:35
No, that is it. Yeah, no, that is it. Five. No, there's a connection express card in there and I did it wrong.
Speaker 1 00:34:40
That is I feel like this guy will grow up to be a just saying, just came out these days, not NFL probably baseball baseball? They just put him in baseball he's doing really well. 
Speaker 2 00:34:52
Why baseball?
Speaker 3 00:34:55
Um I don't know what to put him in. Sometimes you have to carry that. Oh, it's too old. Yeah. 41.
Speaker 1 00:35:05
So what's our workout routine looking like this week, guys? I don't think you have practice tomorrow. Okay. So let's just call it Tuesday, Thursday as of right now.
Speaker 4 00:35:30
Sure. I can do. Eric? Damon? It's five seventy six.
Speaker 4 00:36:39
You're paying like 140 for. 
Speaker 5 00:36:44
A bill.
Speaker 4 00:37:23
Where Is your soul? My soul? Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:37:26
Your soul. Soul is what? I think of my soul as being within my body. I don't. within the heart.
Speaker 2 00:37:40
You know, you think heart and soul. That's what I think. You know, heart and soul trying to go together, but it's I don't know. That's a good question. What is your soul?
Speaker 1 00:37:59
Is it physical? No. So. Kind of spirit, right? No. Spirit doesn't occupy.
Speaker 2 00:38:07
Got you know we make a plan and got. Yeah, I mean she's like. Four.
Speaker 4 00:38:12
She's like it was so upset like the first few days now she's just like. Good question. Now it's like how are we going to do this? How am I going to do this? Like every time if she cries, she cries a lot, And she was really depressed or just like right. And that's what you want to make sure is that there is any handover because I don't think it occupies her a lot. You know what, when but you can get a heart transplant. She's like, so if you take off the sixteenth, you get twenty minutes. She's like, I think I want you instead of like, I wanted you to, I would love for you to be there. Let's sayum I've got a bad heart.
Speaker 1 00:38:50
Yeah and I said okay. You're not gonna be able to do this. Like hey, my heart is gonna give up on me in any case, and then some dude gets in a car accident and dies, and there's something called organ donors, right? And so if this guy dies and he's got a good heart, He's having. 
Speaker 4 00:39:29
A birthday party.
Speaker 4 00:39:38
I'm not really sure he was done too. Well, we know how to take a brain from somebody. But yeah,
Speaker 1 00:39:58
I mean not whatever, but it's I guess I've known about I feel like I've known about it. It's gonna be somewhere.
Speaker 4 00:40:02
'Cause she called me so quickly after she took the test. That's where I'd put it, but I don't think it's somewhere. When did she take it? Like oh, I don't know. Yeah. I remember being like kind of in the thick of it. Good question. God won't make it where it can be switched? Was that in December? And like, I was like hey, I'm really busy right now, I can't really talk to you need to talk to you. She's like yeah just for a minute Good question though And, then she is like Angie like She started off trying to joke about it. And then she just started crying and I'm like oh honey, It's okay You're okay Like It's gonna be okay, This is great. Hey, you know, like it is what it is. You know, like it's meant to be. You know, you're gonna be fine. Yep. And she said I just don't I just don't I'm just gonna be fine. She's definitely gonna be fine. So someone was like pretty but her. You should use this thing. No, I'm just felt weird about it. So Teja, at first, we already kinda joked around with him, then Teja texted me and she was like don't tell him right now because he got. Like, he's like upset about it and wants to talk about it and I'm afraid. If you guys bring me up, he'll get mad at me about it.
Speaker 1 00:41:03
Like. I was like, how's it hanging?
Speaker 5 00:41:13
You think it's a whole girl thing? You think he's like. I think there's no. No,
Speaker 1 00:41:20
I think there's a. depending on you know, I knew that there would be a strong what if if I wasn't sure.
Speaker 1 00:41:30
Which is why we waited for a year. I put all these things in place and uh and it was like, let's get done, you know. And even then there was a point, couple points like, did I do something that I shouldn't have done? You know, like but I'll be honest with you, I've never been like, I wish I didn't get it done. You know? Never. Not even for a second.
Speaker 1 00:42:03
Oh, But no, his name is Malachi. They call him Bo. I love that baby that they have. Their baby. Oh, there's the the younger one, the third one. Oh, what's his name? Malachi.
Speaker 4 00:42:58
Eric's middle name is Lawrence. Your name is from Grandma, my grandma, because she was a Christian and her dad was a pastor. That. 
Speaker 1 00:43:10
Was actually Mom's pick by the way. Benjamin is your mom's.
Speaker 4 00:43:14
I like the name Benjamin. Elton though? And your father's grandmother's dad, who was a pastor in Argentina, and he was a wonderful man, just wonderful. He just loved the Lord so much! And so. 
Speaker 2 00:43:29
I wanted Reagan and Grace to be called Kendall and Jackson, but yeah. Charde.
Speaker 4 00:43:37
Right. I thought that'd be good. Cabernet? Chardonnay, Cass. Charlene. And you know. Yeah, he was like, can I come over? And I was like, not today! That was last weekend.
Speaker 4 00:43:58
Sorry about you got too much stuff going on. Oh yeah, Eric. Matthew was first. Yeah, I wouldn't have been good at that. Oh yeah, Eric first and I wrecked the game. It was like it was this very intense game. So.
Speaker 1 00:44:16
Yeah, Coach asked if you and Ben wanted to ref it? Oh no,
Speaker 4 00:44:21
Just like a game. We came over to talk to Eric, and he had to explain the game rules checkers.
Speaker 4 00:44:32
They got back at ten, it was like ten fifteen. And I was like, oh my gosh, I'm like we're gonna be late.
Speaker 2 00:45:03
My gosh, I keep finding snowballs all over my house. Every. I pick something up and it's stuffed in the cushion. I don't think they're intentional. It just gets like a snowball fight.
Speaker 4 00:45:13
How I feel about Nerf darts and pennies and little bbs? She. 
Speaker 1 00:45:18
Doesn't know about pennies yet.
Speaker 4 00:45:21
They have like a big can of pennies that Janet left for the boys at one point, like years ago when they moved out, and they just take them and they. They lick them at each other really hard? And there are balls everywhere now. Okay. No, I made a penny catapult.
Speaker 1 00:45:35
Give me the penny, Ben. Let me show your grandma. Wait, I made a penny catapult and it can't throw as hard as that one. No way. Yes, it does. Nothing is harder than if you do it like I do it. So little shell I had. Kid.
Speaker 2 00:45:55
I have faith in a real, by the way, that will teach you how to do it. Used to be marbles but it's not marbles but pennies. Watch!
Speaker 1 00:46:08
But if you're listening, you know. Can't you do it hard? It's not hard enough. Um. Try not to hit him in the face, but I'm like. So you snap.
Speaker 2 00:46:32
And fling at the same time?
Speaker 1 00:46:33
No, you don't fling. Just the snap does it. Oh, There was a point where I was so good at it. We'd be driving, and I'd be in the passenger seat, And I could hit the no parking signs as we're driving by at forty miles an hour. Well, it was before like credit cards were crazy, right? Before everybody had credit cards, and so you'd have to pay cash everywhere and you get change. And then you put your change in in the pocket in your car.
Speaker 1 00:47:07
And I just switched up all pennies in there. So,
Speaker 4 00:47:12
We've had that. We went toum. Oh yeah, did you get any? Yeah, we did. We got any dinner? Yeah, we went toum. We went toum. Tony's Deli. It's a place that moved from Anaheim. It's not a it's a sandwich shop, but it's kind of like a more wholesome version of Subway.
Speaker 3 00:48:12
I didn't know there was two.
Speaker 4 00:48:21
But yeah, and it's good. I like because it's like right down in like the pedestrian walking area down under like Old Town Center. And it's cute, Like so people are walking and they have like a place for people to they have like an outside trading thing on that. Like. 
Speaker 1 00:48:37
No more Ben? What?
Speaker 1 00:48:41
Oh. Not, not allowed to. Sorry. Not before dinner.
Speaker 4 00:48:50
Oh, it was nice though, like it was damages were good. Um like it felt very like relaxed, you know, like the stuff that was on the TV wasn't appropriate, which is frustrating is that like I'd, like out of the park, you know that pizza place. But it's like remember they play loud.
Speaker 4 00:49:15
It's not geared towards like adults. It's a bar, but it also has a sandwich place. So it's geared towards you know, and like coming after the game.
Speaker 4 00:49:50
Like this is a place where your son's come, you know, not the owner, though yeah, but like social media guys doing three years. So yeah, it's like I can see Danielle I can see us taking the kids over there after Sunday. Yeah, probably the extra banana, you know, like after a Sunday and going and grabbing sandwiches. And bringing them.
Speaker 3 00:50:21
Yeah.
Speaker 5 00:51:47
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Speaker 3 00:52:12
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Speaker 3 00:52:17
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Speaker 3 00:52:47
So we figured out that you know, they go.
Speaker 3 00:54:43
They're Right by Doctor Downs. Oh, they are? Really? Yeah. They're across the street.
Speaker 4 00:54:54
Alright, let me go taste one. Since you don't drink them, I want to taste them. This is mine. That's not manta ray. I'm throwing this away. Okay Eric? I'm throwing this away right? I can throw this to the boys?
Speaker 5 00:55:11
Yeah Wait,
Speaker 3 00:55:21
What is this thing supposed to do? Uh, you can hit it on your. You can hit it with this.
Speaker 5 00:55:27
It's a bouncy chair. Oh, that's cool. Mom, don't you touch somebody else's stuff? If it goes 90 or more degrees, then it turns off. Okay Ben our dishwasher is empty. You could have just put the stuff away in there.
Speaker 1 00:56:18
Okay. The real way to drink that is in a glass with a bunch of ice. The real way to drink that is in a glass with a bunch of ice. Your call.
Speaker 5 00:56:32
Just in time!
Speaker 2 00:57:05
Oh, That's how you got a bitter glass.
Speaker 1 00:57:10
So you think I just walk out on you?
Speaker 3 00:57:12
You know, I oh I I didn't know.
Speaker 1 00:57:13
I thought you had to go get something. Didn't I have to go get your glass? And then, I didn't want you to feel like you were drinking alone.
Speaker 4 00:57:21
Oh good good.
Speaker 1 00:57:22
Just, you know, it's sitting there and everything.
Speaker 4 00:57:23
Yeah that, yeah that. Two sinners hanging out drinking together. 
Speaker 1 00:57:29
Well her Bible study this week is the guy that uh the book that they're reading the guy that. 
Speaker 2 00:57:34
Absolutely no drinking No drinking It is biblical Yes. It is. Like the total and. 
Speaker 3 00:57:40
I'm like I don't know I'm just not buying that. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1 00:57:45
That no. No no no no. This is where you guys get yourself in trouble. You know, Like you know, when I'm pouring something keep on trying to hide behind me because Ben's more guy No, no it's not okay.
Speaker 5 00:57:56
Like can you help me? Get out of the kitchen! Oh! It's at 360. 
Speaker 3 00:58:04
Oh so close. 
Speaker 5 00:58:14
Oh.
Speaker 1 00:58:45
He's present. Oh, did you do you want to call your brother back? I don't think so.
Speaker 4 00:58:50
No, but he said I have to die in makeup though. Hey,
Speaker 1 00:58:55
Careful. I know, I love when he's here too honey. Oh oh oh oh oh oh okay now. I know, but it's so funny, but sometimes like like i i saw him drop it that hurt. You know, but i like the. I'm hurt and I'm rolling with it because that's part of the journey. Oh, before I forget.
Speaker 2 00:59:23
Cecilia did bring up not in front of the kids, But the way she said it was so I heard there may be some changes. Oh yeah. And I just kind of played stupid. Oh, she knows. She knows, yeah. So I told her, but so does he. But I know, but I didn't, I didn't know. So, I mean in terms of no, that's okay. Turn on my game. Oh. 
Speaker 1 00:59:60
Yeah. Hey it's not here.
Speaker 2 01:00:02
No sir liquids up here. I'll be very. 
Speaker 4 01:00:05
Excited to pass on my counter top. Oh! Guys you really need to, Oh, you can sit on one of my broken. I know. Ow! Those are my kids from there. You guys stayed up really late last night? Uh, two.
Speaker 3 01:00:22
Brayden, hundred dollars. Hundred dollars? Yeah, I'm three foot three and a half.
Speaker 3 01:00:40
Are you telling the truth?

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