record_id: 2d3f8b3e-f83d-81b3-b71d-d7b3196b288e
created_time: 2025-12-24T05:44:00.000Z
title: 12-22 Technical Meeting: Construction Project Surface Preparation and Waterproofing
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Speaker 1 00:00:01
And then we pressure wash it, and then we blast everything right away. You know, we clean it again, maybe, and then top it with sand. We have something to...
Speaker 2 00:00:20
I have a notebook here I've been to.
Speaker 1 00:00:23
For a pencil. Here. Yeah, you already have it.
Speaker 3 00:00:33
But, like, this is what we're seeing right now.
Speaker 1 00:00:49
This is something, you have, like, a bonded layer, and then this is some sort of... Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if we were to put the cup grinder up here and barely touch this have him blast it and then we come here and do M1 from here to heat the sand and then I would almost say then we want this all to be rigid.
Speaker 1 00:01:50
So this, I don't even want to, I think we have this right. yeah and then we fill this in with 254 or wherever we paint it's kind of like this right or rapid which might be better rapid just so that when you put all that in and then here it's.
Speaker 1 00:02:34
membrane see tile i think that's so filling this in but just filling it with some sort of, yeah and then your silicone is right you still have your silicone here.
Speaker 2 00:03:01
So, I put the silicone here, because you have an elevation, and so, you want to cut the tile, and then...
Speaker 1 00:03:13
That's fine, because it was up to the bottom, so I would still do that, if you wanted to go from this end. I've been doing this, and this, right? Let me see, let me see. It seals this up better, right?
Speaker 1 00:03:44
I mean, this is really what's going to stop the water, and then this is so dense, with the 254 and the Rapids that should stop the water, and then if there's any negative moisture, this should stop. I guess if we needed to, we could do, if we had to, we could do M1 back there and silicone up here if we're worried about moisture. And you'll see it, right, once the detail's done. But I think before we do it, a couple things.
Speaker 1 00:04:27
But yeah, I think, I mean, do you want me to redraw it. 
Speaker 2 00:04:32
I've got, no, I've got most. You pretty much have it, yeah. I can redraw it and send it to you. I've got it created in another file. You go in there, so I copied, I think the one you and I both like hit up. You know that I messed with it, but I started drawing that and I started drawing that kind of the entire.
Speaker 1 00:04:57
yeah i think we need to figure out right we're gonna have to 254 and 3701 layers lifts on this.
Speaker 2 00:05:06
right back up this we don't need to do lifts on um we don't need to do this on four even if it's three inches they said all that all there's no limit the only requirement is that every two inches you can and i said okay can i immediately put stuff on top after and they said yes the issue with the 5a is the walls is that are on the walls right is it worth the risk you know what i mean.
Speaker 1 00:05:41
i mean should we try it in we've been doing it in three quarters right or five eights or whatever it is should we say all right let's try this one in let's figure out what we need if are we coming up two and a half or three let's do half and half. i mean unforced errors do you think yeah we can do it because the biggest thing too is making sure that it's working it's even working a lot without the shade it's tempting not full tent but always.
Speaker 1 00:06:22
working okay because even if it the whole thing's not you're gonna start getting skimming over.
Speaker 2 00:06:28
right on the surface um but anyway no and i'm all for that you can test the section right we'd see how it goes we did the stairs at alpine that way yeah stairs inside the pool yeah.
Speaker 1 00:06:46
yeah i'm just i know it's smaller it's more beautiful and it's like southern this is. right southern facing if somebody turns this off. Southern, Yeah, but that we're in the northern, So like from summer to winter.
Speaker 1 00:07:18
It's from the south that you always hold Sun right and so if somebody shuts this off. Shade all day, right, but if it's on the south side, it's got a higher chance of getting beat by the Sun. Okay. They have that built out with concrete, you know, what is it just piled. 
Speaker 2 00:07:58
Okay, well it had it had tile around it.
Speaker 1 00:08:17
Build the concrete structure that way okay, Tile onto a piece of PVC right isn't you know the, Appropriate substrate for setting so if you look at this guy.
Speaker 2 00:08:37
On the right side the number one I don't know if you saw that sitting over there is broken all right That was that was the demo guys this guy. You can't hear from there. But this didn't have a piece of pipe to glue it into. It's got some energy that's like directly to what it's got.
Speaker 1 00:09:08
So now you're talking about out of the wall? Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:09:10
Oh, okay. So let me remove it from there. It looks like they hid it in the main line, but that's not... The thought went through my head. It's down.
Speaker 3 00:09:44
Four...
Speaker 2 00:10:08
I know that those guys used to, like, put on the M1, and then they... Hello. 
Speaker 3 00:10:21
Are you calling me on purpose, question mark. 
Speaker 1 00:10:36
I'm at Costco. Do it. It doesn't have to be.
Speaker 1 00:11:11
You don't have to, but it doesn't start till, but he can go tomorrow. There's a double session tomorrow.
Speaker 2 00:11:17
You've got to be down or glasses, right. 
Speaker 1 00:11:20
Yeah, he needs to go Saturday.
Speaker 2 00:11:24
Sorry. I don't mean to, like... Hey, you. No, it's fine. I think it's the rebar bleeding through from a couple spots.
Speaker 1 00:11:50
Yeah, go ahead. Go through your list. At some point, we've got a meeting in Nichols Canyon. We get the water from the grass. We talked about that. Yeah, I don't see an issue with that, like, right now, but we will. We need to tell them to shut that down before we start.
Speaker 2 00:12:11
The pipe on that side, I don't want to make you climb on a pole, and it still goes back four and a half inches, and it's like below the floor. Right. It's the pipe that comes out here.
Speaker 1 00:12:29
So, straight out there. All right. I mean, I would say we could try to, can you open it up more to be able to get more material back there. 
Speaker 2 00:12:39
I can. I just have to, like, in order to start going to the floor, you know.
Speaker 3 00:12:44
There we go.
Speaker 1 00:13:03
And if you were to put two to the floor in there and pack, 3701 so it doesn't harden up on you as fast but I would say or even get a.
Speaker 2 00:13:15
grout bag right and my only question about it really like I've been saying like open them up you know yeah so why at least get up so my rule of thumb has been you can get your hand in there right then you know right and that way you can and you can also make sure you get the two people and then we can pack.
Speaker 1 00:13:37
and there are other materials so like rapid set the blue concrete bag is an LA City approved non shrink route that allows you to add more water than you think you should be allowed to to make it like a horrible consistency right, And we found that Ardex, I think it's Ardex 212 we've used before, and that same thing, they'll allow, they give you different mix ratios, but it's certified by LA City, so like, if you're doing work that they're inspecting, it has one of those, but Ardex 212, same thing, you can, it's pourable, and as long as you follow those mixes, you know, when it dries, it doesn't shrink,
Speaker 1 00:14:31
and it doesn't break, right, and so that's good for a material that you can have a little looser to make sure, even putting it in a grout bag, that you're squeezing into a hole in the back, but I mean, I think the way you're thinking about it is right, and even better than what I'm saying, but like, you can't get back there for whatever reason, I'd have to go out the whole floor just to get it. something an optional material so i know i do on my computer because i i sent kelly a bunch of.
Speaker 1 00:15:10
pictures and i'm wondering if that's what she's saying because i sent her when it was at amazon.
Speaker 1 00:16:18
I have folded and spilled all the acid, didn't you?
Speaker 1 00:16:53
Hold on. So that was after I first did that. Oh. somewhere underground and so and it happened right after a big earthquake what is that no.
Speaker 1 00:17:37
more more reasons i don't think it's the name of that i want to say paradise but that's like where the fires were like way like way up there no but that's what i'm saying it's this was bill moore there we go up lancaster acting maybe some huge earth somewhere up here.
Speaker 1 00:18:12
right so then when the autofill would kick on that the water would just drain out, So once we shut it off, it locked off, and that's what we decided to do, is eliminate it, connect it into the supply line that's in that wall. RHA didn't want to believe us. Like, dude, I'm speculating about how it happened, but I know every time the autofill kicks on, it pours out there. So if we change where the water goes in, I think this will solve it. They finally, effectively approved and fixed it. It's just like, sometimes it's good to be lucky.
Speaker 1 00:18:45
Yeah, but yeah, we can delete that.
Speaker 2 00:18:47
Oh yeah, it's capped, so I would just. I'm making a poncho. Honestly, I saw it was capped, and I was like, oh, a poncho.
Speaker 1 00:18:56
So we capped it when we did that. But yeah, we can, it's blue capped. Actually, I have four more of these that I got from that same baggie. I'm like, why didn't I buy five? But yeah, we can actually cut that, cap that, cover it. One less pipe detail we have to cut. But the level was still same. So we still have to do that. And I would say, do it as a, was it a plate before. 
Speaker 2 00:19:24
I would say do it as a- I think both, I mean, I've got a video of it. I would say do it as a plate, yeah. All right. There's a couple places, and we don't need to spend time here. Yeah, let's cut something like that. So they've got cuts in, and then like we, there's 2-54, you can see that somebody put like, but the 2-54 is only like one inch in. Yeah. And so you can see it's all open right here.
Speaker 1 00:19:49
Yeah, so, I mean, like to me, this just seems like a waterproofing challenge, right? So like, I don't know if they went around at the joints and just blade at the saw. You could bury a blade at the, I don't know. I don't know what those are from, but anyway, if you think, dude, I'd rather go here and just knock those in, so it's easier for me to get memory C in there, then that would. 
Speaker 2 00:20:19
stuff like that if you if you agree with this i'd rather just like m1 it real quick yeah the m1's.
Speaker 1 00:20:25
fine i mean because the m1 essentially is the crack detail like you've got vertical crack so what we used to get and we got this on ambitac so but have you seen miracode's crack isolation detail does it have the whole like i had a blade at the warehouse with the double blade it's two blades that are sandwiched by like a centerpiece and so it cuts like a quarter inch groove so miracode has i don't know you've got them looked in a long time but they wanted you.
Speaker 1 00:21:03
to chase everything as a square and then right it was bond breaker so here's your track tape, surface whatever this is and your m1 actually goes from here to here and it's really on this side here and this is like the tape prevents it stuff back for whatever reason and then it was sand here.
Speaker 1 00:21:33
so i don't know what the detail is but this is so ambasac every fortune that we had told them, okay so the guy who framed this framed what what he was doing is building panels nailing them.
Speaker 1 00:22:06
together my guess was is there something happening shot three minutes right right.
Speaker 2 00:22:25
Well, because the separation in these cracks, that's what we're hearing is too clean, right? Right, right.
Speaker 1 00:22:32
And so literally a shrinkage crack, so it's not... Right. Surprisingly, there's no rust through them. It's a classroom. Dude, I shouldn't look that up. Much easier. Right. But what if it's a...
Speaker 1 00:23:03
This is greater than 16th? All right. If that's at less than 16, I was gonna... If this is less than 16, you can just go. But if that's at less than, there might be a difference. I'm wondering... but anyway so we have a literally every so now if you notice the way we do plywood.
Speaker 1 00:23:38
because we were getting these at and they also were putting masonite on the form and they would strip the forms and the forms would be slick and they would be all wavy like dude plus or minus like two inches and i had told him don't do the masonite just leave the fiber no, it's not an issue and then that's the way you know that's the way i did it.
Speaker 2 00:24:28
um yeah i mean um all right so so then these cracks here you know it sounds like it's like.
Speaker 1 00:24:38
yeah so i would yeah yeah i would chase them you know look for them you're gonna see them when you wet it if you missed it it'll dry and then the dark line will stay yeah i would find them and i think on this wall especially it's like a shrinkage crack here and there i mean but you're calling this like even this because it's pitted right from the demo maybe it looks like a 16 or more than this if we call that compare i mean.
Speaker 1 00:25:24
But it's not super wide, but I do think that, especially on the positive side, this side, and then you to here, if you were to float the other side and it comes through and you feel like this is wider than a 16, you tell the other side. What do you mean by comes through? Because I imagine if you were to, you're going to float the other side, and if it actually is still shrinking and cracking, the crack will reappear and float.
Speaker 1 00:26:03
Okay. Because you're not doing number. Actually, we're not doing it. How did I write it? DHH guy, $2,000 guru, but, um, current, they'll, uh, includes addition, refraction, so, load,
Speaker 1 00:27:14
membrane, and you have to detail through this. so detail these if you membrane these and float and see it pop through then maybe the other side because this side we're going to have hydrostatic pressure and then these because but i would say this is not a great idea so we don't necessarily need to but i think from our members let's just.
Speaker 1 00:27:48
do it the rest of them if they're like this remember you should be go ahead and hit it with.
Speaker 2 00:27:57
it okay um so uh because i'm in my head i'm asking myself about where insults.
Speaker 1 00:28:15
but these are like.
Speaker 2 00:28:22
Yeah, I stand on ball like golf balls in your insole. Okay. And for the did you just start? No, I'm having for like three or four years. And I keep thinking I should get my next question. Did your feet or did they have you push your foot into foam? I haven't been foam. I did it first time it was a mold, like where the guy wraps all the stuff around your feet, the plaster and everything. And then I did it again. These are starting to come apart. So I need to do it again. But I went to the same guy and they're like, No, now we do it with a stand.
Speaker 1 00:28:55
So they got an app. And so they just scan your foot. And I'm like today. And while you're standing, like I feel like I sat down and do something differently. Right? Like when I'm standing. But anyway, yeah, but it was great. Like, but even when you're sitting down in there holding a load on it. So because I was asking, he's like, you know. 
Speaker 2 00:29:22
You were talking, I'm assuming, you were never like, oh, this hurts, let me stop. Get you not to, because my feet, my feet, my toes, so it's like, so he pushes right on the, and it's like, because, well, what happened is, literally, I can't, that's why I never wear.
Speaker 2 00:29:52
rainbows, or anything anymore. I go two days without wearing, I feel like somebody's got. 
Speaker 1 00:29:60
I did a VOC the other day, running shoes, because you have to run for a certain period. Mm-hmm, yeah, I mean, it's not, right, like that. I did it in running shoes with no engine. My ACL has been, I could barely walk the last three days. ACL's hurting so bad. But it was hurting while I was running at first, and then it warmed up, so I ended up doing a 15-minute run,
Speaker 1 00:30:30
10-minute, as hard as you can go, and then you have three minutes at 65. I was like five minutes into, two minutes into the run, pushing myself, and the pain started to go away, which isn't the right thing. Compared to what we know we used to do? Yeah. But anyway, and then now, the next day I can barely walk every morning.
Speaker 1 00:30:60
Maybe it's because I'm so old.
Speaker 2 00:31:08
I didn't take my injury. I know what was it. When I first started discovering this, out in South Carolina, when the double-wide there, and the ankle knee knot. so i've been a double wife michelle journey michelle really oh no they're like no like.
Speaker 2 00:31:47
in their house telling them what they're doing like when they stay with them i mean like. yeah yeah your dad said something about an old folks not even touching we were making jokes about bunk beds catapults and stuff like that so is your duval 98 mcleish 96 is that the age.
Speaker 1 00:32:17
is or is it reversed no i he said something about 96 and 90. no i think you're both.
Speaker 2 00:32:24
Because I think Duvall's older. Okay. But they're both, like, that's pretty impressive. 98. Yeah. That's, you know, it's like one of those things. Peter Atiyah, dude. Oh, yeah. Listen to Olivia. You turn me on all the time. Yeah. And I say crap because, you know, but it makes sense.
Speaker 1 00:32:47
It's like even the grip thing, right? 75% of your weight split in half. You should be able to carry that. So, for me, it's two 90-pound dumbbells for a minute.
Speaker 2 00:32:60
180. 
Speaker 1 00:33:01
No, 180, 75% of my 230.
Speaker 2 00:33:04
Oh, 75%.
Speaker 1 00:33:05
No, I'm like 230.
Speaker 2 00:33:06
Yeah, no, when he said that, like, that's one thing that I'm...
Speaker 1 00:33:10
But you start thinking about, like, you've got to train now. Oh, I know. Knowing you're going to lose 15% a year or whatever that number is. Oh, yeah. Okay, now I'm 100. I saw this.
Speaker 2 00:33:21
I've started working out with the boys. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm starting to get some of my, now I'm always worried. Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 4 00:33:38
Measurements. So, yeah, so the measurements, and you can't just follow up with it.
Speaker 1 00:33:47
The tiles are 24 by 48.
Speaker 2 00:33:51
Do you have tile on there? No, I've got to show you a track tile. Okay.
Speaker 1 00:34:06
Should, so if you look at, did you see the drawing? Look at the drawing I did in there, and I actually started drawing all the tile modules. But that was pretty much. i don't know what it has on it you should look at the pictures of where the joint was was the joint here or did they then these joints were here right i think we have to that's what i do that's what i.
Speaker 1 00:34:49
do right but where were the tiles like this waterline tile did it and here here so if we just find pictures that's going to be and then the bottom datum line i believe that's going to be a probably a six inch tile whatever that is okay and then whatever i think that's what it is.
Speaker 2 00:35:33
so this is plastic so before it was piled all the way oh all the way to the floor.
Speaker 3 00:35:39
yeah this is it whatever it was so this was.
Speaker 1 00:36:30
all the way down yeah no that's okay so here go back this will answer that well there their joint there so they must have done the drawing well maybe find a different actually no alignment. this drive there's no alignment there that must be the joint that goes all the way up so they did.
Speaker 1 00:37:01
it at the cobalt state okay yeah so the joints i guess that makes sense right you need to align. wait are you showing a joint there oh that's over there yeah okay so that one's right no this is.
Speaker 1 00:37:53
actually good this is better it aligns with those that way we're not all that's fine so it is mine. oh and here i just started figuring it out.
Speaker 1 00:38:25
oh you made a section recently right yeah, I just started because I got 6th Street. I was trying to figure out dimensions of a couple lines, so I learned I should literally just start with 6th Street. So, and then, I'm assuming, so that has to be, and if that's the case, then these joints are probably, they're probably full tile layout of some sort.
Speaker 1 00:39:01
But anyway, so we're doing this again. So it's that back wall, the plaster video, right? These are all, this is tile, right? Tile just at 6th Street. Yeah, so it's tile in the back. No, no, no, I think this is tile, right?
Speaker 1 00:39:37
so the back was tile the front wall is plastered so yeah and then so our but our waterproofing is so if we damage the front right too much overlap for fear of right but the waterproof should be.
Speaker 1 00:40:20
overlapped the way it's supposed to be and we're going to need this a the mirror prime for the stain flashing everything yeah okay. That's an important conversation. Yes. Yeah, boneless. I'm like, I'm fine with a bone-in ribeye. It looks nice. It doesn't cook. That's well-read.
Speaker 2 00:40:59
That's funny. I just read one. I saw it. It was like, you know, whatever chef gives. Yeah, I mean. One of the reasons why I like the bone is because it makes it difficult to overcook. But then it also, you know, the other opposite.
Speaker 1 00:41:23
Yeah, I mean, I put temperature probes in them, right? And then I wrap it to a perfectly round log so, like, you get even, right? So you don't have, like, this oblong shape where. Right. But this is all from this guy, Meathead Goldwyn, who's like, yeah, so like, look, his goal is perfect temp. Like his goal. That's it. Like, and he has his ways of thinking about everything that like, I don't know. It's a linear argument for me. It's like, all right, it makes sense. I believe him. And then every time I kind of follow his stuff, it's out good. You know, so it's like, but I don't, you know, look, if you're cooking at a slow speed for a long period of time,
Speaker 1 00:42:10
like his thing is the bones get in the way from you actually getting salt onto the meat and flavoring and tenderizing those areas. And it slows it down because they're dense. It takes a long time for the heat to penetrate that side, but then it's penetrating the other side. So for him, it's just like, take it off.
Speaker 2 00:42:31
That makes sense.
Speaker 1 00:42:32
Get it more even. But he's looking at it from a barbecuer, right? So I've read the Aaron Franklin book, the guy from Franklin Barbecue in Austin. He got a James Beard for barbecue. And, you know, dude, they, you know, at least the way I grew up, I know you guys have a lot more money than we did, but it was like, we didn't waste anything. We'd scrape potatoes. My mom would look and make sure. So, like, dude, they shape.
Speaker 1 00:43:04
It's more about the perfect shape of the rack of ribs or, and they waste so much. They waste it, and then they go put it in something else. They're a restaurant, right? And they can chop it up and use it in different ways. But, like, for you at home, it's like, you're going to throw this away probably, but this is the way we recommend it.
Speaker 5 00:43:23
Yeah, Brady, am I good to press this. 
Speaker 2 00:43:28
Have we gotten all those areas. 
Speaker 5 00:43:31
Yeah, I've got all the rest off of...
Speaker 2 00:43:34
Let's go through and do one more double-check and look at it, and then I'll look at it. No, you're good. One of the copings, Kelly actually pointed out to me, he took off the ram board here, the back side popped through.
Speaker 2 00:44:10
So I don't know if we want to use the same tile and replace that later. I have all those little pieces.
Speaker 1 00:44:16
No, I think we have staff on it. They used to be years ago.
Speaker 3 00:44:31
You might have to, you might have to.
Speaker 2 00:45:30
Oh, what about, uh, the guy that you saw. 
Speaker 6 00:45:35
I think his name was, like, Christian, but I didn't, I was gonna ask, and then, this is, you know, I'm the one getting married to him. Hmm, is that good. 
Speaker 3 00:46:05
I'm trying to do that, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1 00:46:30
There's a couple different colors, so take that one.
Speaker 2 00:46:37
Here, this is our stockpile. So maybe at some point, we can take that one out now and take it up and match it. But, you know, now you can see how they made them. So that might be something we can... That's funny. It's like this little bead.
Speaker 1 00:46:54
Yeah, so they used some sort of resin or something. But some... So the manufacturer would only do the downturn, and somebody else had to do it. They had stone like...
Speaker 2 00:47:14
This is one of the... I don't know what this is. Just... Oh, you had stone... This is for this one.
Speaker 1 00:47:25
Oh, I had stone land price. the new material to detail because this is the only detail she would approve and they didn't want to spend the extra or whatever but this must have been they put over the embed wall.
Speaker 1 00:48:08
friends of pete this wasn't a first bid on it.
Speaker 6 00:48:34
we would have oh just look at it give me a break let's take that out here yeah here why don't you.
Speaker 1 00:48:59
do it well i was gonna say we could actually we could actually put it through those and.
Speaker 3 00:49:04
just balance it on that wall or you can yeah either way wait until you get down not this.
Speaker 3 00:49:47
that they hooked that up to hide the fact that it was dripping and leaking water.
Speaker 6 00:50:19
Let me tell you, I'm afraid of spiders. I remember I wrecked them. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:50:23
I mean, I like them. I still hate spiders. Snakes, spiders, sharks.
Speaker 2 00:50:31
Sharks are the legit purest. I had a... See this one. 
Speaker 1 00:50:39
So there's two different colors. One of them is brown, I think that's the brown one. But I think at some point maybe you can come down with him and just hand all the material out, maybe rinse it off and try to find the gray one, and then maybe it's just a repair on it.
Speaker 1 00:51:14
There's also a retail company by the name of Placentia. Is that where we got the, did you go there and pick up the pile for all this. 
Speaker 4 00:51:29
I mean, American Bull Nose.
Speaker 2 00:51:34
Sounds right. We're like off of. Yeah, I think so, yeah.
Speaker 1 00:51:44
Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:52:38
That's my thought. I mean, if the part's ready, I've got the coping on. I can cover it afterwards.
Speaker 1 00:52:51
Right. I mean, that's the biggest thing. Like, could we set up to where we can be productive and then guys still work Tuesday, Wednesday. 
Speaker 2 00:53:02
I mean, I intentionally left the canopy over there because I knew that.
Speaker 1 00:53:05
Cover it back up. Yeah. Think about it. But it's going to be something you're going to want to do tomorrow. Right. That way you're set up for Wednesday because you don't want to be setting.
Speaker 2 00:53:19
Do you want to check on that part or give me the information? you always find something so that meaning name the game has always got to be double check right.
Speaker 1 00:53:51
yeah as long as you're human all right plating plating they were telling me this isn't solid copper i said i'm pretty sure it is well the fabricator said no it's pitted he's never seen.
Speaker 1 00:54:22
solid copper pit like this before and so i said no no in the pool i was gonna say so it's been an assault water pool for 15 years hi linda it's corey with triune pools how are you good good um i'm calling about that copper spillway part that i had shipped to you from, um yes you know what i'm talking about fountain supply yeah it's solid copper it is it is solid.
Speaker 1 00:54:57
copper i had a long conversation with her about it and he said he was going to test it do you know if.
Speaker 7 00:55:01
he tested it a waterfall so let me call you back let me find out if he has an answer i'll call you.
Speaker 1 00:55:29
back okay great thank you thank you oh my it's just like.
Speaker 2 00:55:42
I always love the theme is having the same program.
Speaker 1 00:55:53
Yeah, every place, yeah. So, and like even the girl who was in the background right there, I said, look, so you guys are the experts of this. I'm just going to tell you. So he's saying he's never seen pitting like this, but he's not familiar with saltwater pools and what saltwater does. I'm going to tell you. I won't tell you how long I've been doing this, but I'm going to tell you I've never seen one in my entire career not be solid stainless or solid. They wouldn't use a plated material in a pool. It just would never last. It wouldn't last 15 years underwater like that. Okay, I said, so I guarantee you it's solid.
Speaker 1 00:56:27
If he's having a hard time polishing or getting, you know, a polish into the pits or something, like let me know. But we've had it sandblasted, so it should be ready to do whatever you guys think will hold up. But it's like, I don't want them, they want to put like a coating of copper over it. But I think that's going to be that. Like, I'd rather just polish it the best you can. It's just going to turn brown. It was already pitted. It's just going to be less pitted than it was when we took it off.
Speaker 1 00:56:59
Right. And I'm already into this thing for like 300, 400 bucks. I'm going to be in this. Oh, do I? Uh-huh. I mean, I'm not scared. I mean, I can look at them. I can't hold them. I have a hard time picking up lizards. Like, when I was a kid, I'd pick up lizards and all that.
Speaker 2 00:57:22
But Levi's, yeah, it's magical. At least you're not a... I don't want to, you know? Yeah. It doesn't make you feel any better. But I had one time where like, this is wolf spiders. They jump, right? I didn't know this at the time, but they don't bite, right? But. I'm, Hitting the leaves. Is that your house? Is that my house? Because there was, yeah, there was like... These are in California. He's, yeah. And he freaking jumps.
Speaker 2 00:57:53
And I have gloves on. But it's just like, I look down and I'm like... But we used to have some like get in at Reconcern. I have a picture somewhere of one that's like, it's mostly leg, right? But it's this big. I'm not even kidding.
Speaker 1 00:58:10
I have a... I had... Because there's a caterpillar. I'm sort of... I found out what it was. Ms. Corey? Hi.
Speaker 1 00:58:42
No, I mean, it's a healthy debate. It's fine.
Speaker 7 00:58:52
Okay.
Speaker 1 00:59:04
Yeah, and as I was trying to get it today or tomorrow, if possible, because we were going to try to install it under a tent before the holiday. So, yeah. Awesome. I'm excited. So, yeah, let me know as soon as you know, and we'll coordinate it. Thank you. Bye. So, like, the leaves are getting eaten. So, I bring it in, and I put it on the counter. And in the morning, I see these little drops of poop, like little dust.
Speaker 1 00:59:36
I'm like, should I stop looking on the leaves? I don't know what I did, but I like it. brush the bottom of the leaf to see if like there was something on there and it was this bright it was a bright green caterpillar like a bright green color like the underside of the basil leaf i got on my finger i don't know why it freaked me out dude i still don't know where it went it's in my kitchen somewhere i mean i'm assuming i mean that was a couple months ago but dude i just gave me.
Speaker 2 01:00:07
like dude all right see you dude i feel something falling into my neck yeah we had a feed room right right where we created the feet oh so that's where you do like blending like you're finishing it was done at that point yeah right well i i feel something hit the back of my neck so i reach back.
Speaker 2 01:00:42
And it's like I feel a bug, and I pull it out, and it's a cockroach. Oh. Big one? Yeah. And I was just like, BOOM. 
Speaker 4 01:00:54
It doesn't hurt, I think. Huh? Weird.
Speaker 2 01:01:04
It's coming up from there, but if the rat comes out, and it sees me, it runs back in. A rat? Which is fine. Rats all the time.
Speaker 6 01:01:25
We re-coated them with epoxy, and did a whole detune on it, and they just aren't running yet.
Speaker 4 01:01:33
Well, true. Yeah, so maybe they don't run it when it's... No, no, it should be... The pump would go out all the time. I think, is there an opening on the plug? Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 01:01:49
So it's a basin of water that fills up and then it fills up. We re-coated this. That's what I actually wanted. This is marble. I'm sure this is the coating. It's just dirt. But like, you know, you come down the staircase and you see a little water feature.
Speaker 4 01:02:09
And Mark, the architect, who is Mark Rios, designed for himself, and all of them. And he didn't want to mind that he didn't want it. Like, oh, that's a really big trough for a little wee-wee.
Speaker 2 01:02:35
Oh, um, there is a... 8th Street. I don't know why I keep on wanting to say Tennyson. Probably because it's Fritz. Yeah, it's Fritz. It's like the same boo almost. Oh, yeah. There's a pipe, a cover vault. Yeah. The end, a knot.
Speaker 1 01:02:59
Yeah, yeah, it's electric. Yeah, you don't have to do a pipe detail on it.
Speaker 2 01:03:02
Okay, it's like, is there something in my head that says don't touch this. 
Speaker 1 01:03:05
No, I mean, we're just going to put a box, pull our wires, and then, but yeah, that's above.
Speaker 2 01:03:14
Is that underwater, though. 
Speaker 1 01:03:14
It's above water. No, because that vault, right, the water is where the step dam wall is. Right. And then if somebody swims in there, it surges over and goes to the floor.
Speaker 2 01:03:23
Okay.
Speaker 1 01:03:23
And then the drains on the floor just drains out like a drain. And then that thing's over there coming through the wall above. I mean, even if it's at the surface or below the surface, that floor is a drain, right? So the water will never build up.
Speaker 2 01:03:37
And I looked at it, I'm like. Water's at the top part then it's under water. Yeah. Yeah. No, that one's good. We have to do a detail on the floor drain.
Speaker 1 01:03:48
Yeah, and then when we do the BC Pro in there do a black and smooth, right? They're stripping the forms today. Stripping the outside plums. Yeah where the plumbing leaves the spa. Fritz wants us to extend that at some point But he has to finish the stone on the house So but that I mean if we can like to get out of there Here get out of here because if that shoring thing happened, okay. Yeah, no, he was texting me.
Speaker 1 01:04:36
Friday, Saturday, Sunday, the architect for the owner, he's freaking out. He didn't get back to the timeline for Rocky's line. Yeah, I mean, I just want to hit up Angel and tell him it's scheduled. I realize I never paid him a demo on this.
Speaker 1 01:05:06
Oh, no? Just for the moment, that tile removal is fairly straight, and I don't want him. I know he is. I mean, there's no way he couldn't sketch chomping on it, which I haven't.
Speaker 1 01:05:37
today. do the outdoor pool they changed it so that they're supposed to have a paper face mounted tile by certain come to a dot mounted mount tile to show you my whole thing i was trying to submit it to chat to tell me how much glue was on the back of the time he's not responding to mine i finally talked i said hey like he's not using the thinset i said but also this is not the same tile and so you need a whole new tile spec well they're already halfway done i said.
Speaker 1 01:06:09
yeah but like the goal was to make sure it was done correctly like you guys well yeah i mean, the owner's more concerned with you finalizing the bid for the indoor he wants to get going on that it's like but if this fails you guys are going to try to say it's my fault and he didn't you know and whose names the owner no that oh some guy i used to know from somewhere else that referred me as a consultant at first you just made a big deal out of it.
Speaker 1 01:06:40
through so means oh that's it the other names that you were looking at oh that's his old boss oh that's why i was like no this is the one the guy the guy bought for 100 million dollars james packard he's like one of the original he's one of the facebook investors but you know family money um australian the billionaire used to date her he almost married. but it's right around the corner from the new names that i was supposed to meet that guy this.
Speaker 1 01:07:15
week you know because i still a plumbing so yeah which i get it they're not they're not killing me for it and they're far away from it but. I was working on that yeah I saw I read your notes they're not for nothing um when I review.
Speaker 1 01:07:52
payroll um oh 10 I should probably go I don't even know if I'm meeting with them. no I might even have to do that oh there we go okay I just don't know that that was that.
Speaker 2 01:08:33
because he comes from darn near seeing me that so it'd be easier for him yeah it might be you know.
Speaker 1 01:08:41
figure out, I mean, because I'd like, I don't want to be a hard ass on stuff done, but it's like, because that's also, so it's like, squeeze, yeah, just try to do as much, but anyway, if we, and then the rain, obviously, the rain doesn't help, but if we can keep going, all right, dude.
Speaker 5 01:09:41
There's a few, I think it's like, well, I put the red tape with the arrows on them, where when I went to try to take off the rust from the concrete, there was more rebar exposed, so I went ahead and got my drill and I used the wire brush to take off the rust from them, but I'm assuming you guys are going to want to put more epoxy, right? Yeah, take a look. And as far as the materials, or maybe we'll go over that later.
Speaker 2 01:10:12
Yeah, they can be in here, too. Down there? Down there, yeah. We're not going to get, you know, in order, let's call that six inches, right? If they're even on that side, you know, I don't want, like, 17 things I have to cover up every day, you know, either. Right. But.
Speaker 5 01:10:31
Or maybe you could just put, like, in the middle of this right here? Or no, because then that's going to.
Speaker 2 01:10:35
You could. But then you wouldn't have a space for the other stuff. But you can do the same thing with this, too, right? You could say, hey, for end of day, we're going to go two and two, two and two, and then the pallet's in between, and then it just becomes this nice, you know. And look, you actually got a hole. You know, you can go over the hole.
Speaker 2 01:11:05
So you can use this. That's what you can do. You can extend this guy to there, right? And then it becomes this.
Speaker 5 01:11:13
Like this hole, like, okay. Yeah, okay, that makes sense. And then this is going to be, like, right here in the middle, right, is what you're saying? So then that way it's like this hole.
Speaker 2 01:11:28
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 5 01:11:29
Okay.
Speaker 2 01:11:30
All right. Now, just think about it, though, before you go into it. Right. I guess it doesn't matter. I'm thinking about how do I pick up stuff without being like, you know. Right. But I think all that works.
Speaker 5 01:11:50
You can also say you might end up having to order some more bins just because, well, I mean, I don't know. For me, I feel like those sprayers, like the ones that we aren't using, those end up getting in the way a lot. Like those, I think, probably get in the way more than anything else. So, but, you know, at some time, I don't want to have to get one bin because I know, like, the bigger ones you guys have. I don't care, right? Okay.
Speaker 2 01:12:17
So, look, it cost me $10. Okay. And I'm not trying to say I don't care about money, but how much money can I save if I just put them off and, you know, even just transport, right? That's an extra item that I have to hold, right? If you're going to put it in a bag, you know, I was looking for longer ones to see if, you know, it's like, hey, can I find one long enough to put those canopy pipes in, you know? Oh, okay.
Speaker 5 01:12:48
I mean, you probably would be able to, but not anything that's going to be lightweight.
Speaker 2 01:12:57
I think I've got to go down to Home Depot and look, like, visually and see what they've got. But, honestly, I'm thinking, like, you know what, maybe what we could do is I'll buy some, like, bands, put it there, and then wrap them.
Speaker 5 01:13:12
Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that goes on. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 01:13:15
So.
Speaker 5 01:13:28
So, yeah, I got all the rest of the rebar for the most part, like right here. When I was trying to get the rest that was on the inside, it ended up just crumbling. You can kind of see right next to the pipe where the rebar, like, just kind of, like, fell apart. So I went ahead and cleaned it with the wire brush. Okay. Right here? Yeah. Good. And then these ones are fine. Oh, and then I was going to vacuum, too, but I guess...
Speaker 2 01:13:58
You see that right there. 
Speaker 5 01:13:59
Where? You see. 
Speaker 2 01:14:02
Okay.
Speaker 5 01:14:03
Yeah.
Speaker 2 01:14:10
It's all right. It's why I like doing things in pairs, having somebody else double-check your work. And for the record, if you were to come and double-check my work, you'd find stuff, right? Right. It's not the same thing here. 
Speaker 5 01:14:24
Yeah. But this whole thing... ended up opening it up maybe chip this back a little bit yeah this whole thing right here like there was rust and then just started coming off and yeah so all right and then yeah these ones this was good and that was good all right now mind you this is going to.
Speaker 2 01:14:43
need to come off too this little bit right here um and that's part of our detail where we we sand the pipe anyways okay this right here yeah okay so should i maybe end up opening this up a little bit i wouldn't open it up in anything more than i might use your you know your wire brush to hit that okay even if you get that um and then we are going to end up doing pipe details about pipe details crack details on each of one of these fracks okay um i know i left this here right.
Speaker 2 01:15:21
so it's on me when you hear this but i hate the fact that the hoses are, Like that we should really have I go so with these crack details.
Speaker 5 01:15:36
Yeah.
Speaker 2 01:15:39
What we should do is. We should M1 this crack. Let's call this a separate detail than this, M1 and then, Mortar bit 2000 along the sides, so it's flat Because if not because you're gonna have to put memory and see and mesh.
Speaker 2 01:16:17
In there. Yeah, you don't want anything. That's probably look at the detail real quick.
Speaker 5 01:16:20
I had it up and then what I'm doing then when we're doing the cracked eat. So we're not, Right on the crack, we're right next to it, opening it up.
Speaker 2 01:16:32
So, look, if you look at the detail, it says if it's less than a sixteenth inch, right, then we don't really need to do anything. Okay. If it's greater than a sixteenth inch, then we've got a V-notch, and then put the M1. So, I think what we're going to do here.
Speaker 5 01:17:10
Maybe just mortar bed? Oh, I mean, well, actually, the mortar bed, I mean, the pie is only when you're doing that one, or is that. 
Speaker 2 01:17:23
No, the mortar bed's going to go over it. Because you can't end up doing, we spent hours trying to get the mesh to properly go over all of these little, you know, better if you just have a flat surface, have a flat surface, yeah, you mortar bed it, and then you do the mesh on top of that. So it's mortar bed, membrane C, and then while it's wet, have you done the mesh? You've done the pipe penetrations, right? Yeah, I remember though, when we did the mesh, so I believe.
Speaker 5 01:18:07
like you, wait, so you guys do the membrane C and then you put the mesh? Yeah. For some reason I remember doing the, putting the mesh on and then doing, well actually no, you're right, you're right. I think there was already a layer of the membrane C, then we put the mesh in, and we did another layer to...
Speaker 2 01:18:26
Yeah.
Speaker 5 01:18:26
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 01:18:27
So, the way it should go is that membrane C... While it's wet. While it's wet, put the mesh in, right. 
Speaker 5 01:18:40
Let that dry.
Speaker 2 01:18:41
A little extra membrane C, right? Let that dry, come back, and do another layer of membrane C. And then we should do that with each one of these.
Speaker 5 01:18:56
So, how many is it? So, it's one, two...
Speaker 2 01:18:57
It's going to be a lot. I think we're going to find, I shouldn't say a lot, several.
Speaker 5 01:19:07
Right here, right? So, it has to go from the top all the way down to the bottom, or how does that work. 
Speaker 2 01:19:13
Follow the crack, right? So, there's a few... And by the way, water does a great job of, it'll stay wet longer, right? So the water will go inside of the cracks. So you just do like a light mist, right? Okay. We should pressure wash it. Yeah, I was going to say, because I feel like some of it's going to come off. And then we got the other side too, so.
Speaker 5 01:19:40
So right now I'll pressure wash the pipes that I ended up chipping concrete out of, and then pressure wash this wall. Are we just going to focus on the cracks for the rest of the day, or do you want me to come back? Yeah, I think you said that one could do. Let's finish this stage of off, right. 
Speaker 2 01:19:60
So I would say go ahead and. Mortar bit. 
Speaker 5 01:20:05
Or the epoxy on the wall?
Speaker 2 01:20:06
Pressure wash those. You can do the epoxy, do the epoxy. But I'd pressure wash all that and all this. Again, when you pressure wash, the idea is, when you pressure wash, it's always like a, get it, you know, like, you know, it's not a, we're not misting, like, if things come off because of your pressure wash, you know, great.

[AI_SUMMARY]
Three technical meetings focused on a construction project for a pool or water feature discussed surface preparation, crack repair, waterproofing, and tile installation. Key decisions included using materials like Laticrete and M1, a multi-step protocol for treating cracks, and addressing plumbing issues. The team coordinated logistics around weather and holidays, identified risks such as shrinkage cracks and exposed rebar, and outlined action items for effective project execution.