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title: 02-10 Discussion: Fatherhood, Faith, and Financial Decisions
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Speaker 1 00:01:39
What are the two biggest points of this podcast?
Speaker 1 00:02:37
Using the Socratic method, give me two to three questions that would properly encapsulate this podcast.
Speaker 1 00:04:03
How would you answer the three questions above?
Speaker 3 00:04:19
Give Me a concise.
Speaker 4 00:14:20
Would, we allow our archers to step into battle with such a complete lack of precision and utter inconsistency? Sasha muttered. And what happens is when they attempt it on moving targets, he was not expecting an answer. Perhaps their erratic aim is more suited to moving targets. For a moment, Adelgofri, Sasha wondered if he was hearing it in the words of Elwetare's attempt at humor for the first time in his presence. But no, he realized as he took in her profile once more. She was merely attempting to calculate if the seemingly random nature of the carrier's aiming might be more effective against equally variable movement. Even Helios Odellantos could not refrain as it was simply watched by the Sun. As the front row of carriers dropped to their knees, all four hands were joined. The kneeling carriers each produced a distinct. Your unit into our coming engagements, which means that if you wish to live, I suggest you learn to follow Commander Cytheria Odellantos's every word. However, inhale and exhale until you can anticipate her commands before she herself moves them. Unlikely but. Captain Olin But I won't drink that military horse piss! You've got it! The plain servant! That is absurd! Sasha sank into the pool, submerging himself beneath a torrent of bubbles.
Speaker 4 00:15:14
Lingered there, relishing the heat of the water. When he surfaced, Cyrus de Marcha-Sauvage was lounging against the tiled edge of the pool, One arm draped over the marble shoulders of one of the nine statues that provided an audience for the bathers. Sasha waved his hands over his face and up across his scalp. "You know," he said, "it's very feathery." "What does it even mean?" "It doesn't have to mean anything," Sasha said. "Is there meaning behind The Palms of Sewn? The Blue Beggars?" "Uh yes and yes no for real," Sasha said with an exaggerated nod. Cyrus's face fell. "The Blue Beggars? Truly truly, if you want to be taken seriously as a musician in Tropsonne, you need to work on your name." Sasha said with mock gratitude. "You're just jealous," Cyrus said, his shoulders rolling in an expansive shrug. Sasha smiled through the steam at his friend. "I'm glad you're feeling so humorous." But the words seemed to remove that very humor from Cyrus's face. "What else am I to do, Sasha? The alternative is skewering Adrian Valens' will on my sword or perhaps on Torus himself." Sasha raised an eyebrow in surprise. The chamber was empty of his orders; he knew it, Cyrus knew it—only the statues of the Lashen were no longer there to remind Cyrus of their perfidy. Still, words spoken once could be spoken again. "Hume's servants," Sasha said, attempting to drag his friend back from that particular ledge.
Speaker 4 00:16:13
I like it. Treason was not the only darkness Sasha would prefer to keep at bay. Charming, cheerful Cyrus de Marchisone, the man known for his laughter, had two shadows: one cast by the sun, the other lurking under the surface, threatening to burst through before they knew it. Sasha had seen that shadow firsthand in his father's presence before. He did not wish to encourage it; to wonder. And yet, In the time since Cyrus was stripped of his rank and position as Commander Superior of all Ranger battalions. He had ranted yes and shown his anger, but he had also demonstrated a great deal of composure and dry humor, of which his grand tour former Captain Reservist was but their latest example. Sasha was glad to see it, but he did not trust it. No you don't. Cyrus said, "It's atrocious." A smile had returned, but it seemed to waver under Sasha's inspection. Or perhaps Cyrus sought to pull him in. "You think of her still, don't you?" Sasha took a deep breath. There was no need to ask to whom his friend was referring. The abrupt shift was unsettling—not for himself, despite the subject—but because of what it signalled in Cyrus. They had not spoken of Esca de Carollin in over a year. When Sasha had turned away from Esca's door, His heart seemingly leaping from his chest in wake of her refusal—it was Cyrus who washed her soul, He reflected ;, it was Cyrus who went down on his knees, so he could cradle Sasha's head in his arms ;. It was Cyrus who suffered through every pain - sharpened word, every grief-filled silence.
Speaker 4 00:17:13
And it was Cyrus who had made him laugh again. The summons from the Archduke had come not long after. Arch-Commander Domenico de Ferro was retiring, and he had named Sasha his successor. It was Cyrus who made the answer that summer. Not that Sasha had not wanted the position; he had, very much. But sorrow had broken his ambition into pieces, And only Cyrus had understood how to put them back together : through his prayers to speak of Escher Young, to recall the memory of the darkest story Sasha did endure. Sasha feared the shadow within him; it was very hungry indeed. Yes, Sasha said—the child's made the word louder than he intended—always in Elise's company at night. Nearly told Cyrus about the night Esca had been jumped by the men for the Varangian. That would have led him, in turn, To tell of his encounter with Esca in Turridium and then of his encounter with Fleeting Mounds in the wake of Lyon Varro's arrest. Then Cyrus would have understood what Sasha himself was not prepared to admit : that he still loved her. Apparently, Cyrus de Marsha so understood without knowing any of those things. Sasha leaned back and let himself float, his eyes on Kintu Ferren's gracing this evening. I thought we were talking about political circles. It was a poor attempt at deflection. Cyrus was silent for a long moment. "You should tell her," he decided. Sasha closed his eyes. 
Speaker 4 00:18:09
We are but drops in a wide endless ocean, Sasha. Insignificant, fleeting, pretending into a purpose that does not exist. Sasha leaned sideways in the pool, heard the long heavy exhale, imagined the shadow releasing with his breath. But you. when you and Shiva won. you defied them. You almost made me believe we might be more than dust returning to dust. The sadness in Cyrus's voice was like a blade in Sasha's heart. He reached his feet down to the bottom of the pool where he stood, turning to face his friend. But Cyrus was climbing from the pool, shedding water like a second skin. The steam swallowed him and Sasha's words a moment later, An hour later, Sasha rode south from Arkonia at the head of a small column of soldiers, his three remaining battalion commanders behind him. The banners of Arkonia, the Archduke and the Seven Cities rippling overhead. To the eyes of his soldiers, the Arch-Commander of Arkonia was as he always was: authoritative, calm, proud. But Sasha felt none of those things. Cyrus Damashe so had vanished, taking his shadow with him. Sasha wanted to search him out. ; wanted to wrestle the shadow into submission and bring his friend out of the darkness. But the Arch-Commander of Arkonia must follow orders. "Men already. " Sasha stood before a poor excuse for a unit of soldiers ; their faces that looked back at him were a mix of young and old.
Speaker 4 00:19:06
Male and female, and none of them accustomed to stand at attention before a colonial officer. They certainly are not. Sasha glanced at the woman on her left. She knew how to stand at attention, was doing so even though it wasn't required by her old regiment. But then, Heliosa de Bellatorum, Commander superior of the legion with thirty -one men had made a name for herself by doing what wasn't required. She was no Cyrus. Sasha did not think they'd ever share the role with their decade of professional acquaintance, but she was more than capable if a bit gruff and unrefined. And of the three battalion commanders, none of whom Sasha had appointed. She had no desire to rise high. In fact, she had declared here that her promotion to Arch Commander unasked and unlooked for as such when. A small parade of soldiers had arrived at the Palerian's watch, Arkhonia's primary military compound, and was being marshaled for the city. It was De Bellotto whom Sasha had asked to accompany her, as he got his first look at the new troops near Carrier Road. The carriers had marched with them, Placed in the middle of the column so that they might learn a thing or two about marching and how to behave now that they were part of a military force. De Bellotto had reported on their march without even hinting sarcasm, that one man was insisting he did not wear boots ; that one young woman with attention issues, singed the eyebrows of a soldier with whose attentions she was not enamored. Sasha had seen no need to intervene as it appeared to be an admirable job of warning off her. Would- be suitor.
Speaker 4 00:20:04
But he had asked De Bellinterop to issue a warning to the sergeant, And a reminder to the woman that such things ought to be reported rather than well, otherwise. As such, Sasha had no illusions when he called for the small carrier unit to be assembled in the watch's, only open bay that he was about to see a final fighting force. "I suppose this is what comes of granting civilians control of their training," Hellello said De Bellinterop said. Or rather, her profile said it. Sasha could have wished for her to absorb a touch of the carrier's lack of discipline just enough. So that conversation with her wasn't like a drill. That civilian stood to be unit's right present as their leader by default, rather than by any great aptitude for that role or any official position in their colonial military. What Enderal Fokon did excel at, however, was controlling the fire he could produce through his hands. Sasha had been skeptical of the claims about his greatness, claims repeated vigorously and shamelessly by Enderal Fokon himself. But that skepticism had admitted defeat the moment Fokon picked a lock using nothing but a tiny bolt of flickering fire as a key. Of course, any number of carriers could have blasted the door into ash, but Fokon had shaped his flame, relying on subtlety and precision rather than brute force. The demonstration had been most effective, and the Archduke had given Fokon the task of teaching his new carriers to achieve that same level of control. The task of teaching a set of carriers to function as a unit. 
Speaker 4 00:21:03
To work together, to wield their abilities with purpose rather than away with abandon. Well, this was a job for the new head of the military. Though she didn't know it yet. Even so, as Sasha scanned the faces of the newest members of her colonel's infantry, He could not help but wonder if even Commander Superior de Valois' own his capable fashioning of a regional fighting force by the time they made contact with the Prince's capable Chinze soldiers or Bensis. Yeah. A couple more mercenaries were there many barriers to achieving this? First among them all Sasha understood The fact that the carriers felt little to no affinity for each other, Despite the fact that they were the only carriers within the walls of Valerius Watch. They were present for different reasons, all recruited by the Archduke, perhaps half brought in by Sasha herself. Some had been desperate for the monetary compensation, either for themselves or their families. Some were there for a chance to test their powers, so often restricted by society. And Sasha knew that. 
Speaker 5 00:22:02
Are you on your way back home? What's that?
Speaker 1 00:22:05
Are you on your way back home? Uh, I'm on my way to Maddie. Oh yeah,
Speaker 5 00:22:11
Maddie's house. I mean, are you on your way back home?
Speaker 1 00:22:13
Yeah. Well today's gonna be a day. My uh. My best friend's dad passed away last night so. I had to get the boys and head on over and take a seat next to him.
Speaker 1 00:22:32
One of them days.
Speaker 5 00:22:34
You sure you want to do it today?
Speaker 1 00:22:36
Oh, I'm I'm good. In all honesty, I'm unless unless this doesn't work for you. Um That's fine. Biggest thing that pissed me off, if, if you know for being open, right, which we always are So I I uh went to high school with his sister, that's how I know him. And so She texted me said, hey, You know, dad's in the ICU and You know Billy could use a a phone call.
Speaker 1 00:23:04
And uh, yeah sure get right on it. You know, and that was during the Super Bowl. Okay, I'll I'll call him tomorrow. And uh. You know, he's always in the ICU. He's one of those guys that doesn't take care of himself. He gets his, you know legs amputated and diabetes and stuff like that, but it's like I told myself. I'd call him and then I didn't call him. Lost track of the day so. feel like a, I feel like an asshole. Um, so I called him this morning and uh you know he's like, hey man, I answered cause it's you but I can't talk. You know it's like, yep. All right. Well, I'll hit you up later. He's like all right.
Speaker 5 00:23:52
Uh oh poor baby. 
Speaker 2 00:23:54
Yeah Yeah. 
Speaker 5 00:23:57
So sucks How old was his dad?
Speaker 1 00:24:02
Um, probably. Probably mid seventies. Um, okay.
Speaker 5 00:24:11
So he wasn't he wasn't a tool you know?
Speaker 1 00:24:14
No. No and he didn't do anything to take care of himself right? Hey if you keep on doing that you're going to lose your finger. Okay well now all your fingers are gone. You know, uh was. 
Speaker 5 00:24:28
He was He he rather just live, Good life, not a long life.
Speaker 1 00:24:34
Yeah, yeah. It's like keep on going this way, they're gonna cut off your foot. First it was your toes, then it was your foot, then it was your knee. You know. And it was just like, dude, Oh, my goodness Yeah You know, the boys the boys are calling him Robo man, right to get two prosthetics for legs, you know, So I'm, good man, I'm good I've. Just uh It's a day Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:25:01
Yeah, that sucks though. So switching gears, watching the Seahawks just completely demolish the offense of. made me go. Man,
Speaker 5 00:25:20
Could have been the Texans. Yeah, definitely could have. They should have definitely been in that game. But you know what? Everything works how it's supposed to.
Speaker 1 00:25:30
Yeah, yeah. Cause I was looking at the same thing with the Seahawks, you know, and Sam Darnold. And it's like should have been the Rams. So yeah,
Speaker 5 00:25:42
Actually they they barely won that game, right?
Speaker 1 00:25:46
Yeah, because we dropped a punt or I dropped a punt. You know? Oh yeah,
Speaker 5 00:25:52
That's right. Yeah, the kick returner.
Speaker 1 00:25:56
Yeah It wasn't even like wasn't even. 
Speaker 5 00:25:58
A good drophuh? They took him out after that. He might be done returning balls for his career because of it.
Speaker 1 00:26:10
Well, wasn't you know, I mean, there's you know, you fall and he still tried to catch it. You know, and it's like he would get out the way at that point. He. 
Speaker 5 00:26:22
Was just he was just in terrible position. Like usually like the returners exactly, He was like way in front of the ball, to where it was like above his head. He just he just set up in a terrible spot. You don't see that happen often. No, at the bare minimum they set up in a good spot and drop it. He freaking just had a terrible spot. They took him out after that, so all security jobs do it.
Speaker 1 00:26:51
Yeah, but you know what? It's much like you know you and I were talking a couple weeks ago. You know, it was like yeah Ashley Ann was, Talking about May, I was like," Look, It's just you see all these young quarterbacks are like really, really good, and they get here to be game or on the way to be game. And they're just not prepared for the mental fortitude that is required of them." Yeah.
Speaker 5 00:27:21
Too much of too fast into much of them. Yeah. But most most quarterbacks can't handle it especially young ones. Right, thanks a lot.
Speaker 1 00:27:33
Yeah, I mean, look at Sam Darnold. I mean, he didn't play a good game. You know,
Speaker 5 00:27:38
Definitely not no But. He did enough to score a couple touchdowns and put his team in the position to kick field goals. He did it enough; he didn't play amazing.
Speaker 1 00:27:52
Right right But I mean, shoot this is a game where I mean i think, If I count right, it should have been four picks by the Patriots. You know. Yes.
Speaker 5 00:28:05
So they gave the ball up three times or something like that. So yeah, they weren't coming into the game all shares stats. Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:28:24
I didn't know that.
Speaker 5 00:28:25
Yeah, he's in T block and uh, We took him out there and stuff. He has the bat, he throws the cleats on and stuff. He goes to hit the ball and he hit it on his second try. He didn't look bad. He looked comparable to other kids. I was like, I'll give him like second or third. Okay. In like yeah, So he didn't look bad going out to academy and I got him some like tee balls, but I could see in a freaking.
Speaker 5 00:28:60
And uh, what I just bought a backpack. And now he's hitting that thing every time now. Only been a couple days. There you go. Yeah, he just has to be like, you know, find the ball and stuff. It's cool though. I see what you've been dealing with for the pastum.
Speaker 1 00:29:16
All this Eric? Dude if you want to talk about Eric, You got to say like imagine Poseidon not like listening to you for like seven.
Speaker 1 00:29:29
I remember asking Eric one time, I'm like, hey man, how would you rate yourself on your team? And he's like, you know, probably like nine ten. And I'm like, you know, I'm like dude. I just want to compliment being objective about this and trying to be real about this. And he's like, wait. He's in ten knives. Oh dude. It's like dude he's easily in the bottom three you know?
Speaker 1 00:30:28
So, no man, that's that's that's totally cool. Apparently, there is a bunch of AI apps for uh for form batting form and stuff like that. There is a whole bunch of baseball stuff. There is there is not anything concrete.
Speaker 5 00:30:44
Huh? How do I coach you?
Speaker 1 00:30:47
Yeah, Yeah, in fact, I'll uh, my cousin Corey said he he's got a good one I'll I'll ask him what he uses because yeah,
Speaker 5 00:30:55
That'll probably help a lot because I know nothing about baseball. I'm just telling them what I think this should look like. You. 
Speaker 1 00:31:04
Know the basics though, right? I mean, elbow up. You know where to hold the bat back, elbow up. Yeah, yeah. All right.
Speaker 5 00:31:14
Yeah, but that all that all that right now to him is words When I tell him right now is put the bat up and take a little half step before. Hitting the ball, he hits it every time. Every time he does it, he hits it harder than what he would do before. So as he's very much not even He's not coachable right now. Not enough. Just tell him a couple things and let him do it.
Speaker 1 00:31:43
I think you know if he's getting it, you know then Yeah,
Speaker 5 00:31:47
Getting. But that's the thing too, is getting once he gets like to a point where He could retain more information. You know, I'll be.
Speaker 1 00:31:58
Yeah. When there's this like uh. But so Maddie is going, he's changing teams and he's going to the higher team. And this coach called me and said he played last night, and I asked Maddie afterwards, like how'd you do? And he's like blah. And I'm like yeah So this coach calls me up No, it's good it it Coach calls me up and we're talking about stuff and. 
Speaker 1 00:32:25
I said, "He goes, you know. He's just got a lot of work to do to get. I know he can do it." Yeah, but you have to be the one that that tells it to him. He's like, "What do you mean? You know soccer?" And I am like, "Yep," and he doesn't want to hear from me right now. You know, it's good; he needs to be a few more years older. There is a point where they lose enough where they're not accomplishing what they're hoping to accomplish enough times. And finally they'll go, okay dad, I give up. I'll listen now. And the more. Just take it from somebody who failed and failed and failed at this for years and just wanted to. shot myself in the boat with my kids, you know. The more you can just kind of like relax and go, he just needs to learn, you know? And not like me. I used to like I'd walk off and I couldn't even watch. Go watch on a hill or something like that.
Speaker 6 00:33:24
Yeah, This is too much.
Speaker 1 00:33:25
It's it's yeah, cause I'm like I told you what to do. You just do the thing, you know. It's not hard. It's simple and you know so, but the more you can like just be supportive, you know. There's also I don't know. Man, there's like this. Uh, You see those dads and they're dads that that drive their sons and they're getting everything. They're driving their sons. They're driving their son with it. It's like, I want that man, but it that's gotta come at a cost. Gotta come at a cost.
Speaker 2 00:33:57
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 5 00:33:60
Yeah they'll they'll appreciate you when they're a little older, but while you are there, drill sergeant It's hard to be everything at once. I'll say that right It's hard to be coach and dad. 
Speaker 1 00:34:17
Well, that's why I stopped coaching too So Are. 
Speaker 5 00:34:20
You still coach soccer?
Speaker 1 00:34:21
Yeah, when they're in in rec, you know recreational stuff. But it was just like he he needs to be, He respond I I programmed him to be to respond right by my style of. Father right. I uh. I programmed him to respond well to firm, you know orders and stuff. And. So he needs that, but not but but if but if it's me, then I am just going to ruin the relationship with them. And.
Speaker 1 00:34:51
And so I got I refuse. So we'll go pay somebody.
Speaker 5 00:34:56
Anyway, just go ahead and freaking relinquish that responsibility. Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:35:02
So you're not having to wear two hats. Yeah, So but uh how's beside doing on on speech and all that good fun stuff?
Speaker 5 00:35:11
He's doing better, which is very encouraging, but it's still slow. But he he you do understand words more, Or, like you would understand more of his words. Like, we we understand him because we hear him mumble, and we hear him do it so much. But even you guys, like when we talk to Feby, you do understand more of what he says. Cool. Yeah, So supposedly Baby Bo took his first steps in daycare, and we didn't see it, but we'll see at home when he does it in front of us.
Speaker 5 00:35:48
They said he is on the wall. He turned around and took one step and then fell. I don't know that you could,
Speaker 1 00:35:56
You know, I don't know that you call that a step. You can, you know, I'm just saying. You gotta land it first like So. The goal is to have him. 
Speaker 5 00:36:10
Start his walking this month. How old is he? Birthday eleven months.
Speaker 5 00:36:17
That's very doable.
Speaker 1 00:36:19
I mean, dude, just the fact that he's starting, you know. Cause like Eric started walking fast. It was like he took his first steps and then he started talking, like you know somewhere around there, like ten eleven months. And long time like, Like fifteen months or something like that. It was, you know, I might be exaggerating, but I just remember it was a long time.
Speaker 2 00:36:51
Yeah, but he's he's been our fastest mover, but even then he's still not like lightning fast. But he's been our fastest mover with the talking and the standing. I guess cause he does stand up no walking.
Speaker 4 00:37:13
Two Would have accepted the terms rather than facing imprisonment in Liberi. None appeared to have any great enthusiasm for a military life. Sasha raised his voice to address the carriers," Welcome to Balerion's Watch. From this moment forth, this is your commanding officer." He said.
Speaker 2 00:37:39
Your phone died.
Speaker 1 00:37:40
No, I thought maybe that happened to you. It just kind of went boop boop boop and you were gone.
Speaker 5 00:37:45
Yeah, same thing here. Make the noise here.
Speaker 1 00:37:47
Yeah, So but uh but so that's cool win It's exciting when they're doing all that stuff. You. 
Speaker 5 00:38:01
Know I've always said that dude was going to be one of my most athletes.
Speaker 1 00:38:04
Yeah, I think so What do you got her going. 
Speaker 5 00:38:10
She's too young for anything right now, but she's gonna do tennis and track. But I think the tennis is gonna be the main thing for me. Cause you know, like when you look like tennis players, they can go pro at freaking fourteen years old. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 00:38:33
Now what made you decide tennis?
Speaker 5 00:38:36
Well, I was just thinking about the sport that. 
Speaker 5 00:38:40
A sport for my daughter that's safe and she can also go pro. That's pretty much at least golf or tennis. Yeah, alright. So she can go professional in tennis, so at least have a shot, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:39:01
It's interesting. I you know I look at things and I go. 
Speaker 1 00:39:09
You know, I never consider my my you know, I always used to consider going pro soccer. Right? Um. But I never considered like that my kids would actually go pro soccer. And and. 
Speaker 5 00:39:28
Here's what What's that? I said you considered it for yourself but not for your kids.
Speaker 1 00:39:35
Well so pro for me at the time was not. 
Speaker 1 00:39:40
Like I was playing when the M L S was formed, I had played with many of those guys. Yeah, so it wasn't in soccer. Soccer now, and I am not talking European soccer, right? Um, European soccer was another level. And I knew I didn't have that you could you know, You couldn't you couldn't be raised in America at that point in time and play good enough.
Speaker 1 00:40:10
Playing the European leagues. Right. Um. And then soccer's taken such a big jump since I was a kid, it's a whole different game than when I was a kid.
Speaker 5 00:40:23
That's crazy, So you're saying the M L S was first formed when you were still playing? Say that again? You're saying he said the M L S was first formed when you were still playing? Yeah.
Speaker 5 00:40:38
That's not that long ago,
Speaker 1 00:40:41
No. Yeah, so it was uh like those players. I still won't watch M L S today because it's just not it's not good enough soccer. Yeah, probably the worst player. But but I I but I think it's funny that you know like I make jokes about. Like sure my kid can you know, Ben says he wants to be a pro soccer player. You know, sure we can have that conversation. No problem. You know, I support you, bro. But, you are literally picking a sport for your your daughter to go pro in. You know?
Speaker 5 00:41:20
Yes, But it's it's the option to go pro really for me because if she becomes good enough to go pro, she can do it at a young age which is cool. You know? Um obviously I am like work with her I'll, Pay a coach, X, Y, and Z. But like if she doesn't go pro, it's like not the end of the world. Like I don't want to put all that pressure on her to go pro. But I don't want to put her in, let's say, uh I mean I guess she could do basketball. But I don't want to put her in a sport where you can't really go pro. Like I don't want to okay, she's going to do track, but we're not going to think about track as like our end goal because you're not going to really.
Speaker 5 00:42:06
Be a professional, make money from it. You're just gonna kind of run your meets or whatever. That's really just to learn how to run. Right. I don't know. I think it'll be cool if she if she's good enough, she'll be able to go pro at a young age, which is cool for me.
Speaker 1 00:42:22
Would you be thinking of tennis as an as an end goal?
Speaker 5 00:42:27
The end goal for the blue? Yeah Oh yeah Interesting Oh yeah Like yeah, Like, if I have you because she could uh get the sponsors, whatever. And tennis is heavily based off winning. So if you win, Then you get your sponsorships and your deals and you get paid off tournaments and X Y Z.
Speaker 1 00:42:55
Right. Right. No, I am just more it's mindset to me that i I think is fascinating, you knowum oh, Like, obviously, you can make a lot of money in tennis, But I mean, the odds of you making a lot of money in tennis are very small, right?
Speaker 5 00:43:14
Yeah, sure. The odds me to get to the NFL is small too.
Speaker 1 00:43:17
Right? And that's kind of where I am going with this. Like you know you are it's like you are in the NFL. Of course, You are thinking about how your kids can do can You know meet or exceed. You know what you've done, you know so on and so forth. And so as as where a guy like me who, yeah, I mean I was better than everybody else around me, But I, you know, it wasn't like I was, you know, I never considered myself world level elite. You know what I mean? Like on on anything. At what point did you think that?
Speaker 1 00:44:03
You weren't good enough to play. 
Speaker 5 00:44:05
In Europe.
Speaker 1 00:44:07
I didn't know about European ball until I hit college. Oh, really? Yeah, so my dad didn't watch my dad didn't watch and we didn't have cable. So I got to college and my and my friends are like, let's go, you know, let's go watch the game. And I didn't even know who the teams were, you know. That's crazy. I didn't even know who David Beckham was. I mean, if that really. I mean, I knew about the World Cup, right? But the Americans. You know, and but you can't watch. I don't know. I didn't enjoy watching soccer because you don't really understand the game until you see it played well. Like in until you start in American soccer was not good soccer. Um and so by the. 
Speaker 1 00:45:00
By the time I watched these guys playing, it was like there is no way I can get there. You know,
Speaker 5 00:45:14
It's like you better to get there, yeah, no for sure.
Speaker 1 00:45:17
Right? And because not only that, you got to have doors open for you. You got to have like because you got to be on that path.
Speaker 5 00:45:23
Right? And and and give me an idea. Like I had a shot at getting into the MLS.
Speaker 1 00:45:30
Um, And it was literally like I can go work for my dad, or I can or I can start running down this road. And you know, The good players, not the great players, but the good players in the MLS were making like fifty k. You are like," I am good," right? And I was like," No, I'll go make some money over here," right? Yeah. And so that's that's why I didn't foresee anything past that,
Speaker 5 00:45:57
You know. Still the case today though. What's that? They're not making great money still today.
Speaker 1 00:46:05
In comparison, they're not. Um, but they're making, you know, I think last time I checked it was You know what is that?
Speaker 5 00:46:22
Oh, they don't make them good money. Average guaranteed salary in twenty twenty five was approximately three hundred fifty four thousand. Yeah, three. The median of three two thirty eight.
Speaker 1 00:46:35
Yeah, That's the number somewhere in my head above three is the number in my head. What I make man?
Speaker 5 00:46:42
That's that is that is good. No, that is good. You could have been over there or you'd have been ten years in by now. 
Speaker 1 00:46:51
Ten years in I would have been. Oh man, I would have been that guy that like dude just retired, you know.
Speaker 5 00:46:59
Give it a grandfather.
Speaker 1 00:47:00
You ever watch that show Ted Lasso?
Speaker 5 00:47:03
No, Ted Lasso.
Speaker 1 00:47:05
No, you guys might like that. I don't know. It was it was uh I really liked the first season of it actually and really liked it. But it was, uh basically uh, this guy owns aum a soccer team in England. And um, and him and his wife get divorced, and she gets the soccer team. And it's the only thing that he loved, right? Like he you know he didn't care about anything except for the soccer team. So and the soccer team wasn't any good. But he loved that soccer team. So, she fires the coach in an effort to get back to him back at him, she fires the coach and hires.
Speaker 1 00:47:51
An American, so it's football, right? So in England they call it football. So, she goes off and hires an American football coach to coach the soccer team. 
Speaker 1 00:48:05
Because He's a football coach. And well, oh he's he's a. 
Speaker 5 00:48:09
He's an American football coach coaching soccer,
Speaker 1 00:48:13
Right? Right. So he's like, I don't know anything about soccer, But you know, they're paying me a whole bunch of money. So I'll go over there and do it. And he's got a personality that everybody loves, and so and his name is Ted Lasso, and that's the the name of the show. So they did three seasons. They got it got a little weird on the third season, but it was really everybody loved the first season. So.
Speaker 5 00:48:37
Yeah, I'll have to check it out. You don't watch much shows? I don't watch much nothing. Watch movies or shows?
Speaker 1 00:48:45
We usually have one thing going on. But other than that, yeah I can't, I can't watch more than that. So,
Speaker 5 00:48:54
Maybe we'll watch it when we go over there.
Speaker 1 00:48:56
There you go, We can watch it for the third time, because that man made me go through it again.
Speaker 5 00:49:01
Is that good?
Speaker 1 00:49:07
Oh man. So, all right,
Speaker 5 00:49:11
Last one what's What's up with school?
Speaker 1 00:49:14
Uh, no change on school. Um, We're still kind of in the admissions phases for all that stuff, and we're waiting on a few things. So,
Speaker 1 00:49:27
Uh, He's going to change schools. And then the. So I am kind of working out our budgets right now. This is this is like top secret classified. You know, it's okay,
Speaker 5 00:49:43
Top secret.
Speaker 1 00:49:44
Um, I got you. My wife does not know how to.
Speaker 1 00:49:49
And so, the uh, The thoughts going on in my head right now is, can I make it to the end of the school year? And if I can't, then I got to get Maddie over to that school asap. You know, so I am doing finances is what I am saying. And. And then the follow up question to that is am I really getting what I am paying for with air uh with Ben? His current school, And would it be worth it to send him to that same school that Maddie's going to? I'd say another twelve k, you know. So yeah,
Speaker 5 00:50:31
Save a lot of money if they just move over to a different school,
Speaker 1 00:50:34
Right? And. So I slightly mentioned that the possibility that I was thinking of that while we were fighting on something and.
Speaker 1 00:50:46
Did not go over well. Oh man. Oh snap. So she's like, I don't think you understand just how much, you know, pressure it's gonna put on me in the mornings and I was like, well I've been thinking Ben can go to school anyway. Also so then you know and she looked at me like that's very true. I saw like this, this visual of a dragon like coming and snapping me in half, you know.
Speaker 2 00:51:18
Oh My goodness.
Speaker 1 00:51:21
It's, it's uh there there. There's always this like I feel like there's two responses out of me, usually, you know, and it really depends on how much patience do I have at the time. And there's the one that's the good husband. I've got the patience and I was like, ah, I really shouldn't have done that. I see this dragon coming. Man, you, you really shouldn't have stepped on, she's real mad right now.
Speaker 1 00:51:45
And then there's the other one of me. You want to go? Let's go. You, is your dad in here? His brother, you hit us.
Speaker 5 00:51:59
If you could get, if you could somehow work your magic, You can get Eric, no, not eric. She can get Maddie and Ben to at the same school. That's a little cheaper. I don't know what the school offers, but I would imagine close to the same thing. It's a little it'll be cheaper. Plus, if you can get Eric to go to or Servite, that's a little cheaper as well. So, we'll be saving a ton of money. Yeah.
Speaker 5 00:52:28
And, that's just money.; that's not time or same location of the school or anything like that.
Speaker 1 00:52:35
Yeah, I mean makes a whole lot of sense, you know and then it's just, I mean, is this Covenant Christian School the same as Fairmont? No, it's not. But so Fairmont actually teaches a year above. So Eric's in eighth grade right now; he's being taught in ninth grade level. Give you an idea: Eric just took the state testing, you know or whatever they call it SATs? No, not the SATs but they.
Speaker 1 00:53:14
Um, you got in California. You got to take state testing every year to determine where all your. 
Speaker 5 00:53:18
Oh the star testing here.
Speaker 1 00:53:20
Yeah, But we do a different one that that gets but Eric every year tests in the I. Think ninety seven, ninety eight percentile. You know, not. 
Speaker 5 00:53:34
Out of the whole state.
Speaker 1 00:53:36
The whole country. Oh,
Speaker 5 00:53:39
The whole country.
Speaker 1 00:53:39
Yeah, um.
Speaker 5 00:53:43
So now you're saying it's worth it, the school.
Speaker 1 00:53:45
So well, what I'm saying is is. You know, there's that. Rightum. But like when I've talked to Servite, You know, and they found out he comes from Fairmont. They're like, oh yeah, he's fine. They take that really well over there, you know,
Speaker 5 00:54:07
So That's another thing as well, huh It was easier to get. Admitted into another school, or I guess the high school.
Speaker 1 00:54:15
Right, well they just know what the standards are. They know that there is a lot of homework. They know thatum you know they're teaching a grade above. They know all these things right. Soum there is that, but honestly, like that's where we that's why we went there, but I kept them there for the value systems, right? I didn't know about this other school. We we looked at a. We looked at a Christian school, um, initially, And the lady told us that when her son because they go through eighth grade, and that when her son went into the ninth grade, they held him back a year because he wasn't qualified. He didn't he didn't he couldn't pass their assessment exams. Really? You know. And so you know, I was like, and so was it a private school as well?
Speaker 5 00:55:04
That was a private school as well. Yeah it was a private Christian school. And it was like I don't really care about the. 
Speaker 1 00:55:11
I mean, it's a nice cherry on top, but I don't care that it's Christian. I just want to make sure that all the junk that's being, you know. I mean, shoot, you know Pete Knight, you saw a bunch of stuff over there right? Um.( laughs). 
Speaker 5 00:55:25
That kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 00:55:26
You know and even just the junk that my. You know I mean supposedly, we've got we've got the best ranked schools. Well, I won't say it anymore. But uh we've got best ranked schools in the in the state right now in Normal Linda. And you know, the trash that myniece and nephew were coming home with, like you know, it's like Eric. You know what's the difference between what you learned at school, you know and what they learned at school? Like who are your worst influences? He's like them. Why? Because it comes from all their friends at school.
Speaker 5 00:56:04
Okay so their school is their school so clean where they don't have those type of influences in school. It's. 
Speaker 1 00:56:11
It's not that, it's the parents that are willing to send their kids to that school.
Speaker 5 00:56:16
Okay, So you're saying if the parents are willing to send their kids to that school, then you then there's like an assumption that. That they don't come, that they don't leave the house with all the junk.
Speaker 1 00:56:26
Right. It, it's the assumptions like if if you can I mean, it's not a hundred percent right. Like You know, I can definitely give you examples where it's not, but Um It tends to be. That if you've got enough money, if you've got, you know, if you've got enough money to send your kids to, to, you know, To pay twenty grand a year per kid to send them to a school that you're going have a value system that. You know. Kind of. Where at least are disciplined enough to get yourself to that level. You know. Here like. You now can afford more stuff than I can.
Speaker 1 00:57:09
Right, and maybe not. Maybe not. Well, but and we came up completely differently, right? And yet I'll bet that even before you and I started talking, and I don't need to bet anything now; I know you well enough. But like when you one of the biggest reasons I think why why you and I got along so well so fast is that. We hold the same value systems on many levels, right? Like we don't you know we don't believe everything the same, but you know hard work, honoring your word. You know stuff like that where it's just like these things. You know, hey, no I am not going to let my kids go out till whatever time or no I am not going to, you know, the things that just you know, eighty percent of the world agrees with. You know. 
Speaker 1 00:58:07
You you tend to like. You kind of have to have. Almost all check almost all of those boxes to be able to afford, you know, For your kid to go this school or send your kid to a school like this.
Speaker 5 00:58:21
Okay, I understand what you are saying.
Speaker 1 00:58:24
That's yeah. So I did it more as a everybody says, I am trying to shelter my kids like, no, that's not the case. I want I want to make sure that the. You know, if the world is going to leak in, that it's a drip and not a fire hydrant.
Speaker 5 00:58:42
Full flow on.
Speaker 1 00:58:43
Yeah, I want them to be able to digest it, you know. That's all. So.
Speaker 5 00:58:52
Yeah cause I was going. I was talking to my wife and like like cause after we talked about which school your kids should go to. Then I'll tell my wife," I was like, what schools are out here?" And then we looked at like some private schools and stuff. And I was like," Oh no, I can't do it because I am just way too cheap to spend money on things that don't have to." So I was like," M ay be when we get there closer to that point and maybe I might change my mind," but right now t here is no way.
Speaker 1 00:59:26
Well, and i would I would say," What are you getting out of it?" You know. And if you are going to talk about academics,'it's not. That's not an issue, right? There's, there's no, there's not a you're not gonna have a strong enough. Um it it the money's, not there, right? It just doesn't make sense for for academics. Um, but you know what if what if I told you that Maya attributes most of her thinking as far as where she got her, you know, and you know.
Speaker 1 01:00:01
Her sexuality and what, when she started questioning, and what if I told you that that was a high school teacher.
Speaker 5 01:00:07
That'd be insane. I'll take them out of school. Right,
Speaker 1 01:00:11
But you don't know this until it's like where'd you get this? You know. And uh, You know. And then just the the just the stuff that's going on with teachers nowadays, right? And then and then you've got the other aspects of, you know because you're always. 
Speaker 1 01:00:31
It's gonna sound here. You're gonna you're gonna think I am uh. I grew up in Cerritos, It's a nice, nice area, right? And anytime you go to public school, you are going to find that there is always. You always you know the nice schools or the nice areas always get put up against the not so nice areas, so we had all the kids from Artesia coming into um, in in this school right and where you know and then, you get. All of the bad habits from, you know, All of the bad, whatever from those kids as well, because there is cultural differences in how you raise your children and all that good fun stuff. You know, there used to be a joke when all the housing went into San Bernardino. You know what I am saying? Right,
Speaker 5 01:01:24
It was terrible.
Speaker 1 01:01:25
Right but but it wasn't always terrible.
Speaker 1 01:01:29
So here's the joke, and and it's not my joke. I'm just telling you the joke, right?
Speaker 1 01:01:41
They Said, well how'd San Bernardino get to be out how it is? And it's like well. You know all the people from Compton and Carson and whatnot, they left to flee crime and all that stuff, because we all know what's going on over there. So it was best for their family. And they they moved and bought a house in San Bernardino. The problem is, is that they brought their kids with them.
Speaker 5 01:02:11
Don't don't shop. That's probably exactly what happened, right?
Speaker 1 01:02:13
No, it is. It's it's well in in a sense of like it's it's the oh I mean I'm gonna get myself in trouble. So I gotta be careful on how Ium. 
Speaker 5 01:02:24
Not trouble with me Well,
Speaker 1 01:02:26
I think you got to look, I don't care what color you are, right You know that. Um. So when I'm talking, I'm not talking about color, right I'm talking. You've heard about um. Have I told you about like when when that school in Chicago, I think it was tried to figure out why black students are being discriminated against in school by through suspensions and expulsions.
Speaker 1 01:02:56
What they found, um, they couldn't find any discrimination.s Um, they they couldn't find any any situations where it was discrimination. What they, so what they did is they ended up saying, okay. Well, what is it about all of these students? That's what do they have in common They? All come from broken families, right Um. And so when they looked at it instead of by race.
Speaker 1 01:03:26
Um, but by broken families and then reapplied race, They actually found that the whites were the worst as far as numbers was concerned. Cause there's more. Right, But the problem was is that the black community shoot I mean fifteen years ago was seventy five percent of um black children grow up without or in a in a broken home. And I don't know.
Speaker 5 01:03:56
Yeah, I don't know what they're accurate today.
Speaker 1 01:03:58
Yeah, I was going to say, I don't know what that number is now. It's without a father,
Speaker 5 01:04:03
Right? It's about an accurate number of seventy percent; it's like sixty- nine point three. Right? It's, like seventy percent of black kids grow up without a father in the home, which is even worse than just broken home.
Speaker 1 01:04:14
Right? Right and and you know, I mean you and I have talked enough about stuff like what what your role was as a dad, right? And so the issue isn't the blacks, it's not the whites, it's not the Mexicans, it's not anything. It's the family. It's your family system. Right? And then you take that, You know, and and then you kind of run with that and you start talking family values, You start talking right traditions and I mean she You'll get me on a thing here, but You know. And I'm not trying to be, but my my great.
Speaker 1 01:04:52
Grandfather was an orphan. He didn't know his parents. He didn't want kids, so he found a nice little thing got got married. Um, oops, we have a kid, right? And you know he didn't know what to do with this kid. He sure as heck didn't have the patience for this kid, right? So when this kid stepped out of line, you know what was an appropriate punishment? You shove his head in the toilet. And you just right, no joke. So this is what happened to my grandpa, right? So he you know would literally get drowned in the toilet as punishment. You know, And then you know this, the secret that nobody will tell you is that grandpa had this um um he'd lose his temper. Right? And um. 
Speaker 1 01:05:50
He would lose his temper so much that I think he stabbed one of the kids with a fork once because they reached across the table to instead of asking to pass something, you know. Um, My my mom did something one time, and he, like, literally kicked her in the house and she'll say it sheepishly. She's like, it sounds much worse than it was, but he was definitely over the line. So nobody will tell you these stories. Right? But you know what's funny about it is, He's not sticking his head, his kid's head in the toilet, you know. Um, you know it's an iteration. Right. He wanted to be better than his dad, but, you know where his normal comes from. You know I'd say he did a pretty darn good job right. Sure And. So how do we each you know? So it's always different in where are you coming from? What are you used to? How were you raised? What's your normals?
Speaker 1 01:06:49
And you know, um I mean the hope is that, You know, I could tell a story for you, but I'm gonna use me just to be, you know so fast forward, you know my mom almost never put her hands on me. My dad spanked me with a belt but, you know and then I'm I'm gonna hope to be a better parent than, you know than my parents were to me. You're gonna be a better parent to your parents and intentionally too right? Right. So, you've got a bunch of things that you go, you know what? I really liked whatever. You know, my mom did this, my dad. You know, I don't know the involvement your dad had but uh. You knowum but I'll tell you what there are certain things that my dad. What's that?
Speaker 5 01:07:36
I started laughing because you said my dad.
Speaker 1 01:07:38
Yeah but I like you know, but Maddie just jumped in the car by the way. Um But do you hear that? Tangled up. 
Speaker 1 01:07:50
So, you know, but you've definitely got your things that you go. But this I'm definitely not going to do. Right? Like I'm definitely doing X Y and Z different.
Speaker 3 01:08:01
He's definitely not going to change his name.
Speaker 1 01:08:03
He's not going to change his name? Yeah. You're sticking with Bob? That's my name.
Speaker 3 01:08:08
Bob, the best name of all.
Speaker 5 01:08:10
Bob The best thing he could have came up with Say again. So. That's the best thing he could have came up with.
Speaker 1 01:08:19
Yeah. Is that Jesus? Well, you you've heard the story behind that too, right? Uncle Bob thing? Well, The irony there is I think that you know, he got positive feedback when he did it, right? And so he kept with it. This is my guess. But the irony there is that Ashley Ann callsum her dad Bob.
Speaker 5 01:08:46
Oh really?
Speaker 1 01:08:47
I didn't know her and, Ashley Ann, um, is just like Maddie is dyslexic. And so there's there's a story about like her giving her dad a card. And so she writes everything out in the card. And and uh, here Dad I get you this card and everything. And uh, And he goes, oh, thank you so much. Honey, you know, but I have one question for you, and.
Speaker 1 01:09:18
She's like, "What's that, Daddy?" It's like, "Who's Bob?" What do you mean? And, you read it, and you know she got her Ds and her Bs backwards, right? And it must I guess it was a really bad A or something. But it said love Bob. You know and so she called him Bob. You know after that for the longest time. And so when he said something about you is Bob, it was like oh let's jump on that.
Speaker 5 01:09:47
Oh wow, hey that's dope.
Speaker 1 01:09:51
So, yeah. I'll Wear the Bob badge with honor. There you go, there you go, you got to carry something on. Exactly. So everything else going all right though?
Speaker 5 01:10:08
Oh yeah, everything's good. Just trying to find something to invest in. 
Speaker 1 01:10:14
Who knows I mean, You know, Bitcoin's dying right now. I am joking, but you know, Bitcoin's dying right now. So who knows? Maybe that's the thing to do.
Speaker 5 01:10:28
No, um, when I think about investing, I more so think about investing into like tangible stuff. So I wouldn't even mess with the market or nothing. Just like some form of real estate. I really want to doum storage units. Think it's more hands off and not. 
Speaker 5 01:10:47
He'll be all up in the mix with with that, or maybe have one or two employees. Nothing big, you know, part time. It's pretty clean car wash, self serve car wash, where it's more so just your things and stuff.
Speaker 1 01:11:04
Sean knows a guy who owns a chain of those things. Really? And uh he says that that uh and he got into it early. He said like each car wash costs him a quarter.
Speaker 1 01:11:26
And He's got people on a subscription that show up like once or twice, you know, a month. Even though they can come as often as they want to, once or twice a month, right? So his cost is fifty cents and they're paying like twenty thirty bucks.
Speaker 5 01:11:44
A month? Yeah, that's perfect. Yeah, my wife is paying fifty bucks a month for this car wash. She only goes to twice or twice a month. It's insane. Yeah,
Speaker 1 01:11:56
I pay twenty for mine just so you know, but I make sure I go at least four times a month.
Speaker 5 01:11:60
There you go. Get some money's worth.
Speaker 1 01:12:04
Soum you know if if you really You know maybe I can, And if you are not interested, then you know just say no. My dad, maybe not. I don't know, man. Well, my dad is wicked smart. You know when it comes to investment. You know he's the guy that I would talk to about it but. 
Speaker 1 01:12:40
I just all of a sudden realized like every time I he's helped me with investing, I lost a lot of money. So, it's one of those things, man. Like t. 
Speaker 5 01:12:53
Here is risk to everything.
Speaker 1 01:12:55
Well, But it's like I even went and bought everything that he bought. And it was just like It's like, hey, you are gonna tell me when you sell right? Yeah yeah I'll tell you when I sell. It's like, Hey, so when are we going to sell on this? Because we lost a lot. Oh, I sold that a long time ago.
Speaker 2 01:13:13
Thanks. Oh my goodness. But. 
Speaker 1 01:13:20
If you wanted to wrap your head around this stuff, I wouldn't like do it with him, you know?
Speaker 5 01:13:29
But he'd be a good. Does he invest in hard assets or is he more in the stock market?
Speaker 1 01:13:38
He's more in the stock market, but um, I think what you're what what I'm what I'm uh pushing for a little bit is. I think you want to look at it and say. How do I wrap my head around this Like. What should I be thinking about? What's the question I am not asking right now? You know. Mhm, um and. One thing my dad has always done, I think he taught me to do it, and so I kind of got raised with how to think. Um. Is just go, you know, he's always kind of gone, yeah but think about it this way. You know and you go oh like that's on a completely different level. It's not better not worse but like completely different way of looking at things.
Speaker 5 01:14:30
Just completely outside of the way that you know we approach this you know. 
Speaker 1 01:14:37
And uh, you know, I think that I don't know. T here is been so many people that have been successful in investing, But I think a lot of them done. So just by being the lucky winner, you know. Um. So, But I think it'd be good for you guys to talk at some point in time, probably just to with the question of could set it up. What should I do? I mean, cause he's probably going to hit you on compounding interest, and I'll bet you he'll make a case that can. Um, you know.
Speaker 5 01:15:15
Yeah, compounding interest is is great. It's good for retirement.
Speaker 1 01:15:23
Well, Just the idea of getting your money to make, you know, even Warren Buffett on it on some levels, believes more in that than he does everything else. Um yeah and just invest in the index let it ride.
Speaker 5 01:15:37
I'll I'll I'll I'll work. Uh if you know what they didn't tax, if they didn't tax, you on your on your games after you go from the market, then now would be like yeah, more for that, but can't really get your money out. How to get taxed.
Speaker 1 01:15:59
Yeah, but you're gonna get taxed on anything, aren't ya?
Speaker 5 01:16:03
Not if you do real estate. They have a lot of tax advantages for oil and gas. Eighty percent of the money that you invest in oil and gas is tax free. I mean, it's a tax deductible, and then the proceeds are damn near tax free.
Speaker 1 01:16:20
That's interesting. I've got a guy that I know that is working;. He's trying to go on his own.
Speaker 1 01:16:34
And he's teamed up with some investors here and there. Where his big thing is, um, taking over abandoned um oil um taking over abandoned like oil rigs and whatnot. You cap them, you clean up the soil, And you, you sit on it until the real estate's, right? And you sell it. You know, to a developer or or you develop it yourself. And he's like, man, there's so much money in it because. It's so It's so niche nobody knows how to do it and I do. Um That's very interesting. 
Speaker 5 01:17:16
So you could tap You could tap an oil rig again. That's already dried. 
Speaker 1 01:17:20
Up Yeah So once it dries up, you gotta you gotta cap it. It's called abandoned at that point You gotta cap it. So I looked at buying the the ones next to me, um because that guy's selling. And so I just went on this like deep dive. Um and um and so he and I started talking because he was he's dropping off his kid and he's like, oh, I was just you know, bidding on this one over here. And I'm like well tell me about it. And so we just talked for a couple hours things like, and he said so it's. 
Speaker 1 01:17:58
It's uh. You know, so you can live on it again. You can develop on it. Um, Because all of a sudden you go from like the land being worth a hundred dollars, a square foot to like four hundred dollars square foot. Yeah, um. But, you got to know what you are doing, because if not, you get screwed up with all the, you know regulatory junk and and you got to. And he said, the hardest the great thing about what he about. Doing that so they cap it and then they. They essentially clean the soil, right? And make it, several years. It can be anywhere between like two and six years. It's a long story.
Speaker 5 01:18:39
Right, right, and so and you know but I am I am uh. I don't know. I'll chat him up next time I see himum, and see if thing is that you need to have people that can that. 
Speaker 1 01:18:57
Are able to hold on to the property. Um,
Speaker 5 01:19:00
Because it's like I just pay the property taxes year over year.
Speaker 1 01:19:03
Right, because it's not like a quick turnaround. It's like a you know, It's it's something out of it or not enough coming out of it for you to be profitable anymore. And so now you're trying to get off the land.
Speaker 5 01:19:16
No, I'm talking about the guy,
Speaker 1 01:19:18
If uh, if that's any of any interest. And then if if. It is.
Speaker 5 01:19:25
I'll be very interested to see what what his business is and how he's installing the rigs, because he seems like a solo type of guy, or not a solo, but you know, doesn't seem like he's doing syndications.
Speaker 1 01:19:38
So no, but he's on the back side of it. Like you installed the rig right now there's no oil cut Theum. The guy. 
Speaker 5 01:19:48
That has that owns the rig next to your house Oh. 
Speaker 1 01:19:51
That guy, he's he's trying to sell it right now. Um, as if so it's it's all all told at six acres, But it's separated into multiple sites, and he's trying to sell it as if it'sum property ready to build in Yorba Linda. And it's not oh. 
Speaker 5 01:20:12
So so It'S done.
Speaker 1 01:20:14
So, It's still pumping is essentially what he'd have to do in order to I ran the numbers on this. Um, in order to make this deal work, you would have to buy the business from him. And by the way, it's not an option. I actually threw it at him going Here is the only way this works," and he looked at me like I was crazy. And he's not that bright when it comes to business stuff. I asked him how much profit he was making ; he started giving me revenue numbers. So um and but he's old.
Speaker 1 01:20:47
Right, and he's just like his dad gave him this, And but anyways, the only way that that he can make money or or that somebody could make this deal work. Um, And I am not saying it's a good deal ;. It's just a deal that would work is you would buy the business, you'd pump the oil, sell the oil for ten years. Right. And then you pay off your loan about through using the oil right.
Speaker 5 01:21:15
What well, what does he want for it?
Speaker 1 01:21:17
He wants like eight million. How many rigs does he have? Six. I. 
Speaker 5 01:21:25
Will each of them go on one acre?
Speaker 1 01:21:28
No, no, it's like uh we can i'll show you more when i get here. In fact, I'll send you the thread where I did the chat GPT thread that I did on it, where I was just trying to educate myself. Um, and and it was like in order to make money on it. Oil would have to sell at like four sixty a barrel. And. And since then, t here is been like I mean oil's coming down right now, and you know we weren't even at four sixty when I did it. You know so and historically. I don't remember the numbers off top my head. It was just like.
Speaker 1 01:22:13
You know, I am all for risk and opportunity and whatnot more than I should be. When I am going, no. And so just to give you an idea, my buddy BJ sounds like are you you know? I am not gonna, you told me about it. So i am not gonna like steal it out from under you or anything like that. So are you still interested in it? And he goes, Honestly, man, If the only reason why I haven't bid on it is because I think he'd get offended. Um, But the most I would bid on that uh operation is would be a million dollars because the risk associated with it is way too high. And he wants between eight and ten million. So That's. 
Speaker 5 01:23:05
Not even near. That's not even you don't even offer that if that's. 
Speaker 1 01:23:10
Right, right? So. 
Speaker 5 01:23:13
He said he knows nothing about his business because his dad invested so.
Speaker 1 01:23:17
What I am saying is that he he knows how to run his business, but he doesn't know how to manage his business. Um, meaning that you know, he knows it well enough to keep everything going. You know, I when I as I looked in in there, I had a conversation with him for about half an hour. Started looking around, you know. Got a manufacturing background, so I kind of know. You know. I can tell you when something's well maintained. I can tell you when something's being done the right way, you know or if there are better ways to to do it. Um and so, I mean he can run it and he could keep it going, but he's not going to run it. He's trying to get out because he's too old He's in his seventies.
Speaker 1 01:24:10
You know, he's like, I can't do this anymore. He's got kids, but the kids just want to take the money. You know. So the kids don't want to do it either? No. No, And so but the kids have already gotten in on and that's something that's how I I found out that he kind of didn't understand. He's like, yeah, so once once you know my kids had me incorporate, and then you know, once you do once you incorporate, you have to have a. You know, you got to have you got to pay dividends. You got to this, you got to that. And he's like, and then everybody started getting paid dividends. I am like, who's everybody? He's like, well my kids. And I am like. It's like so he starts telling me everything. It's like yeah man your kids took you took it to the cleaners, you know? Um but.
Speaker 5 01:25:02
Well, the fact that he has it for sale means that the kids don't. 
Speaker 1 01:25:05
Want it right?
Speaker 1 01:25:09
Right, but the problem, like I said, He's trying to sell it as if you know he's like. Well, it's land in Yorba Linda. Like, it should be pretty valuable, and it's like, well, it's not valuable right now because it has to be the wells have to be capped and cleaned. And you don't even own all of it. You know some of it. 
Speaker 5 01:25:31
What's the land value?
Speaker 1 01:25:34
It's hard to say. I'll send you that chat G P T link and it gives some guesstimates. I don't remember the exact numbers. Um, but not all of it is his land too. So he's got like a an indefinite lease. So as long as he's pulling oil, so as long as he's pulling oil, no um it's all this like. It everything was done like before there was development here and I guess like one guy owned it.
Speaker 1 01:26:04
And when he died, he didn't have kids, so he split it up among his like top employees. And these guys have kept it in their families, right? And one in one of these guys leased it out to another one or something like that indefinitely, Just saying like hey, pay me, whatever ten fifteen percent of you know, as long as you are pulling oil from it, it's yours. And I am getting paid ten fifteen percent. So, when he stops pulling oil from it, it's not his anymore, you know. Or if he misses a payment. But if you look at it, I mean, they're they're starting to be like. So you know, when when are when are um pulling oil out of the ground um when when the well starts quote, running dry," it doesn't run dry; you start. 
Speaker 1 01:27:04
Bringing up water instead of oil. So, he's pulling out like sixty percent water in many of these, And that's usually an indicator that the well is on the back end of its life. Right? But the problem is, is that you can't you have to do something with the water. And if you put it down the storm drains, Then you got to pay and and which is what he's doing right now, and he's paying through the nose with it. You know, So, in order to make this happen, you'd have to be able to like get rid of the water properly. You'd have to make sure you can sell everything properly. I think there's just a lot of stuff that go into it. And, you know. So let's say it stops for three years. The oil will. the oil will come back? Is that what could happen? No, there's nothing to say that it will.
Speaker 5 01:28:02
Oh wow. Okay, well. Yeah, he's pretty much selling it for the land now. Here at that point.
Speaker 1 01:28:07
Right except it's you know whoever buys it has to clean up the land. Right So, it's How.
Speaker 5 01:28:18
Bad is the land though Like, how how bad does it look?
Speaker 1 01:28:21
It's It's not about uh how So it's got to get tested. And the testing is crazy. The capping, just to cap the well, is like a quarter million. You know. So I mean it's just I mean you think of it, Think of it, you know, here here you are in California of all places, right? You're saying I want to take this oil land right and turn it into into uh housing development, right?
Speaker 1 01:28:55
I mean, the regulations involved in order to get it to be clean again. Yeah. Oh, I wouldn't touch that. Eighteen foot pole. Right, right, right. And so, you know, But it would I mean it turns into one of those like phrase, that's like ooh shiny, right? And then you go well why isn't he doing it? Oh, well, maybe he's because he's a big company guy and I'm just a little guy. You know, I could do this with my boys. This would be cool. You know. And and then so I start. It's like okay, let's let's see the prove ourselves to it or prove ourselves against it. And you you tell them we're ordering the kids around for Eric and Ben. Eric getting six plates, Ben. That sounds interesting,
Speaker 5 01:29:43
Thank you.
Speaker 1 01:29:45
What's that?
Speaker 5 01:29:47
When I was uh looking at oil and gas, I was looking at more so like syndications where guys just, Pu ll their money together and get about fifteen percent on on your money year over year. And then when they sell it to like Chevron or something, you can get a payout.
Speaker 1 01:30:06
Yeah, there is alsoum PE right? Um, no, no that's PT. Uh private equity. Um I don't know if you ever met James. James is, uh my my cousin. Um he's he's been pulling together. Guys that are that are uh, you know, basically, you know, he's looking to buy a business, and he's trying to get backed with a bunch of, you know, guys that have money that don't want to run the business, but they want to have say in what gets purchased.
Speaker 1 01:30:53
So they buy a business, they they run it, they you know and then sell it. You plan plan to get out in the next whatever, you know, three, four years. Yeah,
Speaker 5 01:31:05
No I'm not opposed as well. Thoseum I had an mentor that ran like a tech company, and he used to do that. He used to do it with guys, and then it was kind of bottomed out.
Speaker 1 01:31:18
Right so. 
Speaker 1 01:31:24
Share project. What is What's your email address?
Speaker 5 01:31:32
It's my first last name k one two at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1 01:31:36
Solomon Bird, what are the numbers?
Speaker 5 01:31:40
Three one two three one two at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1 01:31:45
So I'm gonna send you this project.
Speaker 1 01:31:54
Sure, you can chat solomonbird 312@ gmail. com. Invite. Cool. So. 
Speaker 1 01:32:09
If If you're interested in the oil stuff,
Speaker 1 01:32:14
Not That I like I said, I don't think there's anything there. The. 
Speaker 5 01:32:19
Tax loopholes.
Speaker 1 01:32:21
What's that?
Speaker 5 01:32:22
I am trying to follow the tax loopholes as close as possible.
Speaker 1 01:32:25
Oh, there you go. So, well, should we just save uh Keller till next week?
Speaker 5 01:32:36
Yeah, we should. That was a good talk.
Speaker 1 01:32:40
Yeah, Yeah, I enjoyed it. So all right, man We'll for any more time, but don't you write me boy?
Speaker 1 01:33:05
What's That?
Speaker 2 01:33:22
I don't know.
Speaker 6 01:33:23
Why? That's gonna hurt.
Speaker 1 01:33:24
Be a man, come on.
Speaker 6 01:33:25
We do soccer. Mhm?
Speaker 1 01:33:27
That's soccer. So coach asked that you do it this week, and then next week just go to the other practice.
Speaker 1 01:33:52
So, coach called me today. He just signed, He just brought onto the team that blonde kid that was wearing the white jersey last night. And he's probably going to bring on that other kid. Um, and he's like, you know I don't want you to feel like, You know, he's like I'm changing things and I don't want you to feel like I'm not being honest with you about what's going on. And I said no, If you got good players coming your way, I know you are going to sign them. He's like, "Yeah, It just changes the dynamic of, you know how hard Maddie's going to have to fight in order to, you know, get a starting position." And he's like, "I am not saying Maddie can't do it," and I said, "I know you are not. " But, you know, i just he goes I just want to know that you are still on board. So before I tell you what I said to him.
Speaker 1 01:34:51
What are your thoughts on that? Okay. Hmm. I could beat him. That's what I said. I said, this is club soccer. You're going to get the best people, you know how to get onto that team.
Speaker 3 01:35:05
And you only take five shots Well, We take five shots, if needed, and most of the time we miss. 
Speaker 1 01:35:13
What The question for you, you're looking to be the most impactful player, you know, Always. So, I want you going out to every single practice. And it's not about, you know, and if you're not sure what the right move is, start looking at the kids that he loves like Corey. Yeah. And uh Mason andum Jake DeBasher. And then and then uh who's that other kid Ethan? Right? So I think Ethan is probably your biggest. And I'd even say. No, I'm just.
Speaker 1 01:35:51
That's what you're asking for your dad. Fix that, you know. I told him that you're a fighter, so you didn't really care. Um. I don't think it's a dragonfly though. The tail? More like hey, I'm gonna protect this goal. It's like hey, if I'm not in the play, I gotta go get in the play.
Speaker 1 01:36:22
Okay. Cause what I don't want, Cause what he apparently he's gonna take like sixteen or seventeen kids on the roster, but so the kids that don't make um the red team. Is that true? Mhm. Which is cool, but we don't want, I mean, you know, if we're gonna be on that team, we should just stay on that team on some levels, right? It's not a bad deal that you go to play with them, cause I'd rather you play than not play.
Speaker 3 01:36:53
But I'll make my way back on there.
Speaker 1 01:36:56
But what I'm saying is, well, it's going to get decided every single week. So the kids that come and deliver at practice get to go to the game. Okay? And for you, I think what you have to show. Well, they're just super mean to me also. Of course they are. They're threatened by you. Okay? We're going to be kind to them.
Speaker 3 01:37:15
I was being kind though.
Speaker 1 01:37:17
I'm not saying that you weren't. We're going to be kind to them while we beat them. 
Speaker 3 01:37:23
Yeah. My ball went this high. And because I stopped it, but no one did this kid, Rocky did ball at my bat, and everyone was yelling at him, and he got so mad at us.
Speaker 1 01:37:37
So, you're gonna take away everything that they say. You're gonna not give them any excuses for anything, okay?
Speaker 3 01:37:55
What's up, man? How you doing? Today your day. Today your day.
Speaker 2 01:38:15
Where's your brother?
Speaker 2 01:38:25
Um. You. 
Speaker 3 01:38:37
Got out eight minutes ago. Eight minutes ago? Yep. Then why was the line not moving?
Speaker 2 01:38:57
That'll hurt. Ooh. Ow. Did it hit you?
Speaker 1 01:39:12
No, I smacked him in the face. Were you trying to do that? I was trying to smack him. Now I know how to do it. Now we already did this.
Speaker 3 01:39:26
Yeah, so we were. He slammed it at the thing and it went flat and that thing. There he comes. Ow! So can you just get over? Move over, man. I'm already.
Speaker 1 01:39:51
Yeah, you knew that you would have to move over. You put your seatbelt on.
Speaker 3 01:40:26
Dad, Do you have to buy a whole new one of these when this thing runs out? Just the roll. How do you take off the wrapper? What's up?
Speaker 6 01:40:44
So today I farted in class andum Ben told on me. Which Ben? This Ben. Okay. Yeah, 'cause everyone was laughing and I was not surprised. What's going on? Eric farted. No, that was her mind. No, that was you. I only told Akash. Uh. No, no, no, that wasn't you. And then I said. And then and then I said. And he made me sit out of the class. He made me sit like outside of the class for twenty minutes. I'm not even exactly You weren't even allowed to have iPads. How, did you watch? How did you watch the clock back First of all?
Speaker 6 01:41:24
On a big screen, there's a little clock at the bottom.
Speaker 1 01:41:38
It's People's defense mechanism. Not a big deal. Remember that man?
Speaker 3 01:41:51
You allow me to use it, but I can't. I can't see that I created it, but when I did.
Speaker 2 01:42:05
Thank you.
Speaker 3 01:42:12
Again, we don't need to be better. Huh?
Speaker 3 01:42:25
No. Even if we did get snow,
Speaker 6 01:42:27
We just. I just said fine if we got snow this year.
Speaker 1 01:42:32
And I got the. He passed away last night. Soum, I'm probably gonna. Oh no, you were practiced and I couldn't cancel. So it's like always right? You guys have practice until coach says you don't. Can you set up events for me, uh like stuff on my calendar? Subject to closure as of three thirty. The interview is. Dreams no lose no price drop. So, Coach Ian is known for a while that you were gonna go to the like. But Coach Jesse asked Coach Ian or asked us.
Speaker 1 01:43:24
Just to kind of show support. To go to all the practices. Uh Elijah's dad said hello, Coach Ian. Elijah Because of the weather. If you're not paying attention to the messages.
Speaker 2 01:43:48
Not that one. 
Speaker 1 01:43:56
I don't remember the word.
Speaker 2 01:46:51
Probably the one that I just.
Speaker 1 01:46:59
I ordered both of them in the same. I had a not. What?
Speaker 7 01:47:21
You know, like clearly you got a lot.
Speaker 1 01:47:51
What are they doing better than alright. yellow light.
Speaker 7 01:47:56
I go, I go as if.
Speaker 1 01:47:59
Something too, you know,
Speaker 7 01:48:01
Even though like I, there's the ones that like had that big old show for me. I checked on the watch today to see how.
Speaker 1 01:48:07
They're the ones that like offered you a job? You told me that.
Speaker 7 01:48:12
We're home working, You know, and uh and at the end, just start getting business with the company, right? Well, it turned out. Thank you. You know, like I needed, I needed it. Cause it's like everybody's hiding and I don't know if they're like, If I don't know if everybody's kind of grinding it out right now because of the economy. You know, but it's like they're slow to respond. You know, and I need to get out there and start seeing just walking in. You know, But it's like And today, you know, I got emails out and I got, you know, and I made did sample orders, you know, so I did important things. But it's like I need, you know.
Speaker 7 01:48:49
Need to start and I got a lot of good CSI stuff done. And while I was sitting in this waiting for Candice, um, I got to talk to my friend Day. She's gonna hang out with Angela pretty much all day and Angela's been a lot. And so without being like Angela's doing a lot, it was like hey, I know you're gonna hang out with Angela on Friday doing these things for CSI. You're in her log spot?
Speaker 2 01:49:18
I want to give you some context.
Speaker 7 01:49:50
It was nice to kind of talk to her and be like, hey, I'm gonna give you some context. You can take with it what you want, But I think it's helpful for you to understand all the stuff that goes into these things. Oh. This is Mike. Yeah.
Speaker 1 01:50:06
It has a bunch of Adderall in it too. I don't ever check that one.
Speaker 2 01:50:09
I will take this one then. 
Speaker 7 01:51:06
Hello. Hey. So says on my rear tire, I thought that cause they said that they checked this. It's not on the thing, but they checked the tire pressure. I didn't ask them to check the tire pressure since I was in, But then they it said on my like app that they did, and it still says the back. Rear tire thread like threading is low tread. Yeah, Tread. So well I think,
Speaker 1 01:51:33
And it might be. They uh. Because they put the new tires on the front and they put the, front tires on the back so. Possible. We can we can check those. So. Um. Alright, well so. 
Speaker 1 01:52:05
So you're feeling good about.
Speaker 7 01:52:07
So yeah, I just felt like I felt, you know, I felt good about talking to Gilda because not not to I went I was it felt like I handled the conversation well. I didn't talk poorly about Angela or anybody else for that matter. It was just like cause there were some issues on my issues, but it's like the board meeting, you know Angela. Angela and another one of the board members kind of got like at me or. For like, for what we spend on our administrative team. And, it was like I kind of stammered a little bit. And like brushed it off because I felt kind of caught between the amount of time that we had on the board meeting to discuss, you know something that they're lacking, something that they're lacking. You know, context on. And like.
Speaker 7 01:53:03
And also like, and also like a full list of what they could do, But things that have gone unused because services that have been going unused because of the fact that like I've been so busy. So like the whole question last night for the board that came up was like, you know, We're not going to pay more for Copilot, you know to do our accounting and and why not should they already be doing it. No, But it just like caught me off guard and I didn't want to explain it all to them. Not and I knew it was coming off like I'm not going to, but it's like you know what, like I'm not open book. I don't care about what they know. Like I'm not hiding from them. I just don't have the time to sit here and justify this to them, you know when they have the ability to read through these contracts, you know, To read through the contracts, and they have a very limited understanding of what's going on. Anyways so. 
Speaker 7 01:54:02
And this other board member and the woman who I was talking to, our new treasurer, they're very close. So she's like, "Oh, I gotta tell you like Gloria is a little bit nervous about the fact that here we are paying for something when we keep on paying, but we're not making any money." And I am like absolutely. I said, "I completely agree." I said and "I don't want that. " I said it's kind of cyclical, though, after being involved in CSI for the last five years and seeing all the finances. We keep on talking about how we're like, what is the alternative? We're going to strip ourselves away from having people who do all these extra things that you guys don't know about because if they're not doing it, I am doing it or I was doing it. I said, And I am also doing a lot of work still in addition to because I don't haven't had anybody to offload it to, you know. And our service provider could be doing a lot more, but people aren't really getting.
Speaker 7 01:55:01
Anyways, I don't know what I'm talking about. I don't mind. Okay, I like, I said, like it's probably pretty cool. You know, like, so we're going to we already have a few. The tasks that are going on that are that our members are responsible for are very little for some. And we have a bunch of people who have these really full jobs lives and the tasks. And. Now we have these positions that are going to be that are about to be open. If we don't start making these positions easy and seamless, then we're not going to get people to fulfill these positions, anyways. And, then the problem is is then we're not going to have a board to be able to do what our ultimate goal is, which is, you know, gain membership and to raise funds for what we do. Which is the whole goal of really what our board should be doing. Said so.
Speaker 7 01:56:01
So like, you know, we don't know. I said and now we're first like I was. No answer on the golf tournament. Do we have do we the budget? Do we not know the budget? And it was like no, I don't know the budget. And then she was like well, I said I don't think I don't know if we made money or not, you know like i i'm not responsible like it's not. My job, you know, and she goes, okay, well then let's move on. Maybe we just don't do it. And I said, that's I said, well, if we you know to help build fun, bring funds ice. And I was like what are your thoughts on that Angela because she was being kind of passive.
Speaker 1 01:56:47
Oh Angela rolled her eyes?
Speaker 7 01:56:49
Yeah and it was like, what are your thoughts? Angela you know like cause I'm not gonna, let her just roll. Okay I I let me clarify. I know whether or not it's making, Money for it's making money for our, for our board or for our group. But when it comes time to planning the budget, Supplement, you know what we need in order to sustain all the other things that we do. You know and she's like oh well, you know who's responsible for that? You know who's responsible for the, but you know, this morning, I said it last night, literally gave a presentation on the of the golf.
Speaker 7 01:57:28
And pretty much stopped doing all accounting. Brad, who is our controller, Was left to clean up all the pieces and also went on a twenty day vacation to go take care of his sick mom. So am I going to sit in a board meeting and start placing blame on people in a negative tone when we're all playing a little bit of catch up? You know, or am I going to talk about like. Foresee problems and trying to get ahead of them regardless. I don't want to burn out the people that are. It's all fun and games to talk about how we don't want to send our checks to our administrative team, you know, and we want to get a P O box, But who wants to go and go, who wants to go and monitor the P O box? Not me. I am not going to go do that. Do not have the time nor the bandwidth, so we cannot keep on adding these tasks.
Speaker 7 01:58:27
Two people, and assuming that there is somebody standing in line ready to take them. If there is not, we're actually feeling a lot of the pain of our purchases. And why I am a co-pilot, you know, like I it's like I had to like kind of.
Speaker 2 01:58:57
That's okay. We can get.
Speaker 7 02:00:29
She's like, when I. Like I want to just sit down with Angela and have a discussion with her. That's like, hey, this is what this person does. This is who this person is. This is why this matters. Why this matters. You know? But I don't know if it would be well received right now. That's what you should have done. I know. And I. it's like. and she's not reaching out to me and I told her that I'm like, to be honest, I kind of miss my friend. Like, I haven't really talked to her in a while and they think she called Probably going through a lot right now, but I just can't. I said, you know, I think that you will be. You, I said, you guys are both strong women. But your your eight with you being at the age that you're at being in your sixties, like you command a lot more like life respect, and you guys have both kind of like where she will, where.
Speaker 7 02:01:25
You kind of don't put up with it, and she doesn't put up with it, but you're like, you know. So I'm like, I don't need you to get Angela in check. I think you guys can do whatever you want. I'm open to saving our organization money. I'm open to changing locations or anything, But we have to be aware of the fact that the decisions that we make or the things that we choose not to make decisions on affect our budget for the following year. Yeah. Hello, ma'am. You want. 
Speaker 1 02:02:00
This one? No, you can throw this away for her. That was mommy's. Okay, give that to mom. Throw this on my desk, please. Um. Hey, well let me call Billy real quick.
Speaker 1 02:02:22
Yeah, I'm gonna call Billy real quick and then see what. Yeah. Yeah, cause he could very well say like they've done so let me know.
Speaker 1 02:03:03
Stupid phone won't stop ringing. His wife says the same thing about him.
Speaker 1 02:03:30
Well, You know, part of me, Really, I'm I'm calling to check on you. It's like, you know, part of me is like I just told Ashim like I'm a co-pilot. And uh, you know, I might just run out and go hang out with him. Or he might tell you screw you man. I just want to be left alone for a little bit and I'd be okay with either whichever one he wants. Dude! Dude! You know.I uh.I told him the other day like.
Speaker 1 02:04:03
I got things to sort out. I don't want to be around people. I want to think. I want to be by myself for a little bit, so. I totally get it. Um. Yeah, so but if you need anything, just send a text, put up the hand, five seconds, whatever you know. Yeah.
Speaker 2 02:04:39
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 02:04:45
Yeah. Fair enough. All right, man. Well, I just don't want to be don't want to be a bother either, so you know.
Speaker 2 02:05:06
Hey pup.
Speaker 1 02:05:11
You got it. Alright, we'll see. Hey. He wants to be left alone for a little bit. He's like this first phone conversation I've had, you know, where I can actually talk so he was honestly helping. I said. I said, I know you so I can come over and we can hang out? You know what I'm thinking you want me to do?
Speaker 1 02:05:41
So, I'm gonna call Kim real quick.
Speaker 7 02:05:48
Ben, you have to be ready to go. We gotta go get Evan and be over at Vaughn's by six twenty.
Speaker 1 02:05:59
So obviously I can help with that.
Speaker 2 02:06:12
That would be fair. You. 
Speaker 1 02:06:22
Know what, You know, what's funny is as soon as you respond to me with a text saying, okay, and I'm like. The whole thing replayed in front of me and I'm like. The whole thing like replayed in front of me and I'm like maybe I read this one wrong.
Speaker 1 02:06:42
And then.
Speaker 1 02:06:54
Uh, Like I cried and everything. It was like I need this done right now, and it's like just flew through it. I literally just called the Philly or two right now again. And uh, it's like am I coming over or staying away? And he's like, honestly stay away. Oh really. Nice nice. You know some. Well that's how I know like, that's how I know you guys are my people like, you know I get, I got you know I got like. 
Speaker 1 02:07:39
People over here, they're like, "Oh, okay. You're great." My wife is like, "Oh, you're great." And then people at work are like, "You're so smart." And then I've got the bunkers and they're like, "No. We know him. We know him. He's not. no." So the boys were asking me recently. Like high school, I was like, "Well, did you ever like. was this ever hard for you?" Like, "No. No. Everything in high school was easy." "What sport weren't you good at?" "No, I was great at everything." And they're like. And I'm like, "Now what I'm telling you is that's who that guy was in high school." Yeah.
Speaker 2 02:08:37
Yeah.
Speaker 1 02:09:09
And uh, with all of our customers, it's a big thing. Hey. Um, where was it? Somewhere down in Mexico. And she we're getting on the bus and she's like, "You're too stiff." All I ever hear about is Party Brecken. I've never seen this guy. Every time we hang out with your friends, We have to relive all the old days about when Party Brecken was a thing.
Speaker 1 02:09:39
And she's like, "For this trip, I need party break. " We're. Just going to say that I ended up that night crying on the floor of the shower. With my wife and housecleaning, changing my bed. And I woke up the next morning. ;. It's the only time I don't remember anything ever. And she goes, "Party break's over."
Speaker 1 02:10:11
Well, this was over ten years ago, but you know. But yeah, yeah. You know that was a trained muscle that uh, you know, went back to the gym. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 02:10:44
Right, I'm I'm telling you. Yeah.
Speaker 1 02:11:16
That's the red light that Brayden drove past.
Speaker 2 02:11:47
That's why.
Speaker 1 02:11:53
Then again, I did end up with a black eye. The other me, you know. I shouldn't have just shot at my brother- in- law. Oh, that too. That that that too. Um. I knew her ex boyfriend. Um, I actually knew him before I met her. And so, when we started dating, I, you know, met up with him because they were both going to Biola together. Like hey, Um you know, Ash and I started dating, and she wants you to know that. He's like oh. 
Speaker 1 02:12:45
He was sure that you were going to break up with her in like three months, and she was going to come running back. So, he didn't know. They only knew that the Christian one, yeah, L. So, Well, even like the boys will ask me questions now about a situation like this. And here is how I handled it, and they're like wait what? And I am like yeah. Yeah, not the same guy. I've doubled my capacity.
Speaker 2 02:14:02
嗯. 
Speaker 2 02:14:38
Okay.
Speaker 2 02:15:10
Oh.
Speaker 1 02:16:11
Yeah. But you'll also be the first person with their hands when they need help, if they need something, somebody's solid. Well, I gotta say, Mama's get, you know, I was just that. You know, I'm sitting here going man. She spent what is some over here? You know let me get go.
Speaker 1 02:16:35
Let's Check it out. You there? Oh, I lost you. I didn't hear anything you said.
Speaker 2 02:16:54
Oh. And. 
Speaker 1 02:17:03
I have, I have the recipe. So I heard a sermon this morning, and I've got a thing where I bookmark it, you know. AI generate like the points of it. And Ashley Anne's having a bad day, not the same kind of day that you're having. But so I sent it to her. And since you just said what you just said, I'm gonna send it to you. But but already.
Speaker 1 02:17:37
This is my favorite. The pastor ever, okay? In twenty three, but it says uh. Oh, I forwarded you and said hope this helps. Love you. Um. Um. The necessity of trials : Trials are not simply because the world is a bad place ; if troubles come, come you need them. God hates the brokenness but monitors and allows suffering in stages to teach specific lessons. John Newton, uh John Newton um did the uh amazing grace song. So he wrote he wrote that. So John Newton's quote encapsulates. This : Everything is necessary that he sends ;, nothing can be necessary that he withholds. If something is in your life, you need it, even if it's bad. If it's not, you don't need it even if you don't even if you think you do. There's a divinely ordained order to your life, even if it appears chaotic.
Speaker 1 02:18:38
That's all one sermon.
Speaker 2 02:19:08
Right.
Speaker 2 02:19:40
Hm.
Speaker 1 02:20:15
I mean, you know, um. But you know what? So so here is the two step thing. Um first Peter one is primarily all about you need to understand that suffering is God's tool to shape you for good. So when you come under suffering.
Speaker 1 02:20:44
Rejoice, God's alive. He's doing things, and so you don't go into it now. This is me paraphrasing because he was talking about working out. So you don't go into it like, "Oh my gosh, how can this be happening to me?" You go into it like it's a workout, right? Nobody wants to go to the gym, but everybody wants what wants what's on the other side of it. So you endure the pain with a hope. Do, you want to know what the most common thing that Jesus promises, those who follow Him?
Speaker 1 02:21:15
Suffering. If you if you agree again, everything that he throws out, he's like. If you follow me, it's gonna be bad. Because they do it again. You punish them for doing it; they don't do it; they learn. You know we're the same way we're the same way. 
Speaker 2 02:21:47
Mhm. So.
Speaker 1 02:22:04
So what's the main point of Joe.
Speaker 1 02:22:17
So, Why doesn't at the end? God comes right? And you expect him to say what? Yeah, except and if you are not as familiar with this, then that's okay. But he doesn't. It was the biggest disappointment I read in that book. Hold him out. Um, he you when. When I put the sun in the sky, where were you? When I told told the ocean to here and no more, where were you? When I played fetch with the leviathan of the sea.
Speaker 2 02:23:16
But he didn't. You. 
Speaker 1 02:23:24
Have to think about it too, though. He didn't do anything; he just didn't not right. He just didn't do it, but he cried out," He did," you know," he cried out." He did everything;. The only thing he didn't do is he didn't curse God and his response to God. Which you and I would have been like, "What the heck?" You know, I did it right, did I not? And I get nothing. Right? But his response, his response is: "Oh. I didn't know. I talked like a guy that knew." But now that I see you, now that you're here, now I see you and understand who you are.
Speaker 1 02:24:16
You're not just this guy, you know. You're not this guy, just this guy I worshiped. You're not just this being that I would, you know, sacrifice for. You're not just this being that I tried to be like good for. I see you. I see you. And that's enough for me and I will no longer will i say anymore, because you are who you are and in comparison to me, that's nothing. 
Speaker 1 02:25:00
I'm Like super into this stuff right now. You know, I tell the boys, it's like we got a little four- year- old down the street. It's like his name's Abel. Take if Abel comes in here and tells you you're stupid, you're gonna do what? I'm gonna laugh. I don't care about Abel. Exactly! What are you gonna do with this other guy? Thanks, it's your age too! Was I so awesome in high school because of all the great things they got? But. 
Speaker 2 02:25:46
Right. Right.
Speaker 1 02:25:50
And that's.
Speaker 1 02:26:02
Right, Right, but at the same time like the the amount of time that you're spending, Here, Suffering is literally one billionth of the amount of time that your life is actually going to be. Like, we're going to live forever; this is just a flipping time, you know. And you know, in the suffering that you are going through now, he sees you through it. I mean, like you said that I told Ashley and asked me to critique her yesterday.
Speaker 1 02:26:36
It's like I actually like how real these sermons are. It's not how this works. God has two things to us: seek me, trust me. That's it, you know, Learn more about me when you know more there because I allow it to be there and using it for you for some reason, right? When I decide that you are done, you've learned, come on, you will be happier.
Speaker 2 02:27:43
Different aspect.
Speaker 1 02:27:48
At the same time, Sean's not like, oh well yeah put it. Dad,
Speaker 6 02:27:56
Are you ready for dinner right now? And he he also just like like he and today, we got things that you that in that clip.
Speaker 7 02:28:19
I Feel bad. I feel like I made a commitment to you, Brandon, but I do need to. But. 
Speaker 1 02:28:24
I just wanted to think a little bit more. Well, thank you.
Speaker 1 02:28:38
Whoever reading this tag, what am I supposed to do? So, I guess talk to her about that. Talk to her about like suffering. And 'cause she's told me that she's a Christian. I mean, I don't know to what level. A text that I sent to you like, show me the thoughts that I'm coming up with in my own brain. Like. And like yes, it's actually. It's ripe, you know.
Speaker 7 02:29:16
I thank you. I looked it up on ChatGPT on the best way to cook chicken, and it told me to pan sear it. A lot of alcohol?
Speaker 1 02:29:33
Are you a hundred percent ready to go?
Speaker 1 02:30:08
What's a good restaurant in between here and Torrance?
Speaker 7 02:30:12
I mean, I don't know. You guys can meet at like a beach city, baby. Mhm? You guys can meet at like a beach city, like in Huntington Beach or something. Um, I probably don't want to go there. Like the only thing you can do is maybe meet at like where that tire factory is now. Mall is and there's like stuff.
Speaker 2 02:30:38
I know.
Speaker 3 02:31:10
You Got it going on. I'm only here because I want to see what you're doing.
Speaker 2 02:31:16
No way, you passed me. This. 
Speaker 7 02:31:27
Was Ben came in first, he said what do we have? He said okay. See Ben, you took the mental load off of Matthew. There is no witch- hunters, No, there's. 
Speaker 2 02:31:58
No one.
Speaker 3 02:31:58
There's no one. I can't have a nephew of my own, okay? Wait, tell me anyway.
Speaker 5 02:32:05
Tomorrow, find that girl. Walk up to her and be like.
Speaker 6 02:32:11
Like, you know my dad? Come on,
Speaker 3 02:32:14
Let's try this. Ready? Are you okay, Joseph? Check it. Oh, did you know about this? Get the engineer in charge.
Speaker 2 02:32:22
Sorry, are you having any gaps with.
Speaker 2 02:32:47
Hey Ben.
Speaker 1 02:32:49
Go get Evan. Drop though. Um, in state cup, I think it was like this, slow down. One thing I love about Tango, every time he steals the ball. He's a point getter!
Speaker 2 02:33:22
They got this letter too. Dad,
Speaker 3 02:33:33
Look at that. That's an owl. How's it going? Another day in paradise,
Speaker 1 02:33:37
Right? They go flying. Plane, rocket, whatever.
Speaker 3 02:33:50
Now you want to get ready, dude?
Speaker 3 02:33:53
I I know I know where you guys are standing. I want him to be challenged so you know, some training. Jesse's team's up.
Speaker 1 02:33:59
So Jesse felt like my other kids do like but, I'm not worried about him. But I've always no find the right coach. Yeah, Sit on the bench, and that just helps me there's we gotta work on sports here for sure. Um but if you That was called Jesse more players, yeah.
Speaker 3 02:34:17
But if you ever think in the next couple weeks, Damien! Sup dude? You could put your water down at the wagon. Yes, we'll be practicing. We're waiting for the for diesel to come, so we can turn the lights on. You know, like by the light. Ash is gonna take some weight because Ash can be so good, But I need to get his attitude and his like mental second and I told Jess. He's gonna get the captain badge or something. Yeah, you just don't put him in third.
Speaker 3 02:34:57
Yeah, you know. Yeah, I mean. You changed the state cup game that they won. And I'm trying to do the right thing and they're hustling like because that's a controllable, you know, and then we're just kind of. From there, but we'll have plenty here. And then, but Maddie's good. Like I want him to be challenged.
Speaker 1 02:35:33
So yeah, and but like I said, I mean we're we're team players. You know, We want. 
Speaker 3 02:35:40
Not one person. We went to school with still walks with the Lord here, you know. I've heard how manyum bio women it was like, they were so engulfed there. Yeah yeahum yeah But. 
Speaker 1 02:35:52
Uh but no we we look at everything and, You need everything. Don't kick towards the middle.
Speaker 3 02:35:58
Some lights up in here. I'm gonna, I'm all good, thank you.
Speaker 1 02:36:58
Is that a measurement? Um, where we're constantly competing and the team that loses gets demoted, and my team stayed on top. And uh, a lot of the obviously you passed better than most of the people if your team stayed on top. It's trying to. 
Speaker 2 02:37:39
It makes sense.
Speaker 4 02:38:49
Fawn said to you, Ashlien and seven others leaving for Great Parks.
Speaker 2 02:40:05
Okay.
Speaker 2 02:42:42
Oh.

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