record_id: 30bf8b3e-f83d-8184-8842-e2d31a719a23 created_time: 2026-02-18T22:33:00.000Z title: 02-18 Discussion: Career Struggles, Political Analysis, and Cultural Reflection source_url: / [TRANSCRIPTION] Speaker 1 00:01:48 25. air tags were revolutionary in 2021 but in 2025 they're becoming obsolete why, thief are aware of them and the apple sign it's a screaming to get rid of. Speaker 2 00:01:60 we got a lot of news to get through today i'm going to start though by saluting two american originals jesse jackson died today and i had the great fun of interviewing him in 1991, came to my studio at kfi and was actually very funny and informed, you, He was a full creature. I'm going to pray over you right now, Jesus. Let's pray over this man. He was just hilarious. And he was also funny, smart. He had very great negatives and very great positives. Speaker 2 00:02:32 And I don't think we will see his life again. The 1984 campaign was really extraordinary. And then one of my very favorite actors, Robert Duvall died. And I love him for being Gus McRae in Lonesome Dog. But I loved him in The Apostle probably more than anything else for acting, just pure acting. And of course, The Godfather, not a wartime consumer, I'm sorry, all the way through. And I'll give his brief rundown of his filmography. But as I was driving and listening to John Podworth talk about him today on the commentary podcast in the studio, I thought to myself, you know, duplexes, cinema, movie theater, besides, there's still an occasional big screen out there. Speaker 3 00:03:28 Hi, you've reached Ashley and Eccles, please leave your name and message and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Thank you. Bye-bye. Speaker 2 00:04:00 And then you would add Gene Hackman, Clint Eastwood, Al Pacino, Robert De Niro, Bruce Willis, Sylvester Stallone, Mel Gibson, you might throw in Richard Roundtree for some diversity, of course Samuel L. Jackson is in there somewhere, Schwarzenegger, maybe Michael Keaton, you might be pushing the upper, the lower end of the age. If you go abroad, you can of course add Sean Connery and Michael Caine, and Pierce Brosnan, but I mean, just guidebooks. And I'll ask Alex about it later. Just, okay, we're not going to throw anything at you, doesn't matter what time you come in, $2 ticket, you go in and you sit down, and you're in the middle of a guidebook, there's an American male over the age of four. Speaker 3 00:04:32 Hey, you called. Speaker 4 00:04:33 Yeah. Keep checking. What's going on, babe. Speaker 3 00:04:36 Oh, I was just talking to Dan. Speaker 4 00:04:39 How'd that go. Speaker 3 00:04:42 Um, it went good. Like, it was like, hold on. I need to, I need to find where I'm going. New surface. Let me, let me find where I'm going first. One second. Location. One second, one second. Speaker 5 00:05:18 Surface. Prep. Um. Speaker 3 00:05:30 hold on one second please this doesn't seem right okay that doesn't seem right at all sorry you're. Speaker 5 00:05:42 gonna just wait with me for a second maybe it's fred nope this fred no gosh darn it where are. Speaker 3 00:06:10 they located i have i usually have their surface cut there we go oh they're 17 minutes away, Thank you. Um, so it went good, you know, like, it was like, you know, he's kind of an interesting guy, like, he's not as easy to joke with, you know, so it's hard for me, because I need somebody that, like, I can kind of, like, you know, um, a little bit, but he's better than Chris, so, you know, there you go, that's some perspective. Speaker 3 00:06:60 I was like, look, he's like, who are you talking to? Like, I'm like, I, so I went through, like, a series of things that I have, you know, like, a list of, like, of things that, like, I need his input in, and feedback on, and, like, after that, I was like, look, you've done, you've gone through, like, Speaker 3 00:07:33 territory discussions with all the guys and you didn't do one with me he's like I was like is that because you didn't want to make me cry anymore or is that because I forced the conversation last Friday like and he's like well it's pretty straight isn't it and I said and I said yeah I guess but like is there a monthly breakdown you know he's like yeah there's a monthly breakdown I said well that's a that's a like I should know what that is and he was like I just. Speaker 3 00:08:04 didn't want to work I said he's like I'm not trying to hide it from you he said yeah I don't think it is you hiding I think you're trying to protect me I said but like if there's a monthly expectation and all of a sudden I hear that I'm not hitting those monthly goals I don't know that they exist like that's a problem like if I can't define like what equals success to you guys that's a problem, You know, like, I, if you guys are thinking that success is one way, and I think success is this way, then actually, like, I'm in trouble. Speaker 3 00:08:44 I said, we need, I'm not trying to be abrasive, I'm not trying to be, but I'm like, it has to be defined. I said, I've been in this, I don't mind managing myself, I don't mind managing the situation, but I need to know that we're all, and if knowing those numbers sucks, like, but I need you then to have my back, and I'm not hitting those numbers to know that, like, it's all encompassing. I'm having the conversations, I'm cherry picking out the orders, you guys need specifications, you know, we have to, I need distribution, you know, that is, that is the job that takes time. Speaker 3 00:09:27 So, I, I've said. i want to do everything with integrity i want to work i'm going to work hard i work with integrity, um and most importantly i want to make you look good thank you braden you know i said he's like well thank you i said so you know that we need to be able to be all on the same page and i don't like yeah i don't like doing that i'm not doing that on the first but i also learned, it thinking not doing it you know i need you to be in my you know i don't need to be so um. Speaker 3 00:10:11 self-centered to say that conversations are happening about me that's all about me but i can't have you guys meeting in a boardroom going what is she doing she should be doing this they're, not getting answers you know i needed to get through the trade shows that we did here and. And then the other thing is, it's like, well, let's talk about what does that look like? And he goes, well, it's pretty standard, you know, like you get what you pay for, or like. Speaker 3 00:10:41 you don't get what you pay for, and then you put it on sale. I'm like, $650,000, I make 2%, and you're taking $5,000 away from me? And he's like, no, we're not taking it away from you. You had it, you know? And I said, well, he's like, so, you know, that's a big difference. And I said, yeah, you're right, it is a big difference, but I only get $13,000 in commission. I said, he's like, well, be straightforward, you know, we're in sales. And I said, yeah, he said, I know, but they log, you know, I'm sure the RevSec guys are, Speaker 3 00:11:14 you know, have low bases, and I was looking at that. I'm sure Ned and Mark have higher bases than me. But here's the thing, I am the most well-rounded and best person to do the job and open up your business here on the West Coast because of my architectural and applicator base. I said, I give you guys the most presence here. Everybody, I said, I'm not going to try to like stuff Kurt, who is our CEO, like words down your throat here. Speaker 3 00:11:45 But he acknowledged, I didn't have to search it out, that I have one of the hardest jobs right now to do in an area that has no brand presence whatsoever. So I would think that that would look a little bit different, and I'd like for that to be considered. I said, I don't want to talk, I'm not here to speak boastfully about myself, I'm not here to talk, I said, I understand numbers, I would have to come. And if you think that you guys, I would appreciate it if you took that into consideration. Speaker 4 00:12:22 but here's what i don't get your base is what 125 it's like 125 or 124. okay in what world is a salesman in southern california okay with making right you know 140 000 a year i mean and that's. Speaker 3 00:12:49 where he's like well that's why that's what he said to me wait you cut out you said what he was like well that's sales right like the more you sell the more you get and i was like mistakes, dates i said i cover four states no brand presence whatsoever without any distribution. Speaker 4 00:13:16 So, what's an appropriate year-over-year, in your experience, forget about ResTech, right? In your year, in your experience, what's an appropriate year-over-year expectation. Speaker 3 00:13:35 Like, as far as growth goes. Speaker 4 00:13:37 Yeah, 20%? What. Speaker 3 00:13:39 I don't, I mean, I don't know, like, when I was with Duraflex, it was one they were building, and that was one they were building, like, when I was with Duraflex, and that was during COVID, and COVID, and the next three years after that were good times, like, I was able to gain, like, what was it, like, $780,000 or $800,000 the first year on the sales that they already had, but we already had a ramp, you know? Speaker 3 00:14:11 and then after that like i did i exceeded that goal by like three hundred thousand dollars like the next year they they put me at like one point i don't know like one three and i got it up to like 1.6 or seven or eight or something like that so that was like 500 but it's like it will take off like it will start to take off and like but it's like to go from nothing to something you know i think what they want is they're frustrated because you know they paid us for a whole year to sit around but it's like that's right like that's not my problem i told you guys. Speaker 3 00:14:50 from the beginning you know and here we are where we are at and that's fine six hundred thousand dollars you know which is still a lot for a territory that has no attraction in it, oh i can do it but like but where you know but, But I'm going to work, like, five times as hard as everybody else here to get something going, to get paid $13,000, and to be away from my family. Speaker 6 00:15:18 Right. Speaker 3 00:15:19 You know? Like, I'm not even account managing, you know? This is straight new business-to-business sales. So either the percentage has got to be higher on everything I make, or you've got to move my base up, you know. Speaker 4 00:15:45 Right, and they're not going to touch your base because they already feel like you're... Speaker 3 00:15:48 Like, that's the thing. I know that Ned and Mark probably have much higher bases than me. So, but the red guys have lower bases. Like, they were making 7% off of everything that they sell. so that's where it's like then give me seven percent right you know i i think you give me a higher percentage of commission for everything that i sell but don't give me two percent and act like you're giving me a favor right and call it sales right you know this is just straight this. Speaker 3 00:16:22 this is straight this is development you know which should be a much higher sales percentage number you know and i don't have like neds and i live in california so. that's supposed to happen in march but i was like i said look what's supposed to happen in march. Speaker 3 00:16:54 like where they kind of look over and they look over at all of our sales programs. Speaker 4 00:17:33 And I can get down with that. I don't, you know. Speaker 3 00:17:39 I don't care about that. But I'm like, I'm making like $29,000 this year if I hit $650,000, you know. Speaker 4 00:17:51 How are you making $29,000. Speaker 3 00:17:53 Or $129,000, you know. Speaker 4 00:17:58 No, you'd make $100,000. Anything. Because it's $13,000. $6.50 or 2% is $13,000. Speaker 3 00:18:04 Right, right. I guess it's like... Speaker 4 00:18:05 Right? So it'll be $138,000 roughly. Speaker 3 00:18:09 Right. So, anyways. I'm not... I was, like, trying to tell them, like, like, I'm not mad. I'm not trying to be argumentative. I'm not trying to be a brat or anything like that. I just... I said, I need... I need that to be considered as you're looking at my plan and asking, what am I doing? You know? And if there's new metrics that... And that was the thing. I'm like, look, if there are metrics that I need to be hitting, like, I need to know what those metrics are. Unless it's just numbers and hitting those numbers, you know? And that's it. Speaker 3 00:18:40 But, like, but even then, then I should know what those numbers are monthly. So I know how to, like, account for my time. So that way, I can tell a story as to what I'm doing and what I'm building, you know. Speaker 4 00:18:51 Well, not only that, but this is not what he sold you when he brought you on. Speaker 3 00:18:55 Right. I like him. I know! Well, that's kind of it, it's like, and I, it's like, look, thanks a lot for the conversation that, you know, you and I have had already, Brayden, like, it was like, I understand that management, like, makes people change, you know, like, there's gonna be change and whatnot, but it's like, damn, like, I just don't feel like, it's like, he thinks that he's protecting me, but it's like, no, you're not protecting, he's like, well, I can only, like, ask so many times, but I'm like, you've asked so many times, you know, like, I don't know what you're talking about, you know? Speaker 3 00:19:29 Like, like, and that's why I was like, I need, like, I can only, not ask so many times, but it's like, look, I, like, I like what you're doing and all that, you know, I like what you're doing, I really encourage, like, I know you can do it, you know, in the midst of him also being like, you know, like, look, I can, I can only. He's like, I tell you guys what you need to do, and you know what you need to do. Speaker 3 00:20:08 I'm not going to, you know, I can only ask. Speaker 4 00:20:21 Yeah, but what if you can, I mean, here's the problem. This whole, like, you told me something different. Okay, man, you got me in control of that. But let's not pretend it's something, let's not, let's not put this all on me. Speaker 4 00:20:55 Where you go... Where all of a sudden you're like, you really gotta step it up. Speaker 5 00:21:56 They're out there by you. Speaker 4 00:23:31 But I mean, the biggest thing is, you know, you're not here to build their business, you know, for what they're now offering you to, for what they're now offering, you know, and, that's the part where it's like, you know, or let me say, yeah, tell me you think that. Speaker 7 00:24:09 Tell me that you can get somebody else to come in here for $150,000, you know, because that's what you're going to have to start looking at. Speaker 4 00:24:25 If you can't, you know, then, you know, if you can, then you should start going to find that person, you know, but it's like, you've been a pay over here, you've been around, and the problem isn't, look, we're going to have to look, I think we have to look at your office. And I'm saying, I'm, I'm, don't, don't get worried about what I'm, at the end of the day, whatever you, you know. Speaker 4 00:25:23 I'm not, I'm not trying to get you to consider leaving. I'm, what I'm trying to figure out is what is the, you know, what was the understanding when, when essentially when he offered you the job, right? And, you know, I think that we need to hold true to that because now all of a sudden it's like, well, you know, well, just, just take it because here's what, you know, it's almost like he's kind of like, Speaker 4 00:26:13 let's be honest. Well, it's almost like, let's be honest. I don't think you're going to get there anyways. So just take it or leave it. you know and and it's like well if that's your take on it then let's have a real conversation, you know because even if you do based on the way it's set up you're gonna you know you're gonna. Speaker 7 00:26:45 bust your butt you're gonna get to the end of the year and you're gonna be like i do it i got six hundred fifty thousand dollars and then what and then he's gonna you know and then you're gonna. Speaker 4 00:27:01 go and do it again i'm gonna bust my butt next year too like unless it's like there's a fourth. Speaker 7 00:27:09 multiplier that's greater than you know. Hi, how are you. Speaker 4 00:27:39 So, you know, I just, you know, so, okay, so you get it, and then what is, what is the plant? What are you to be able to accept, you know? Um, so, I mean, I think, I think that's, I think that's what you need to do. Speaker 4 00:28:14 I think that's really what you, you need, um, plant. You know, some of this is just, you know, and honestly, just me talking here, it's like, are you going to tell me that, you know, these guys have a higher, you know, base coming in and then these guys over here, which are going to continue to, and I'm looking around here and I'm going, well, what's the difference between me and them? All I see is just that, you know. Speaker 4 00:29:56 yeah no and that's where i think i think we need to understand what was offered to you you know so that we have what. Speaker 4 00:30:36 okay no what if anything what i was trying to do is come to an understanding of ash i'm not ash huh. Speaker 4 00:31:34 Okay, that's fine. Just so you know, there was no intention on my part to send you in there to go fight. All I was asking for the offer letter for was to get a sense of what their understanding was, or what they sold you, right? Right? Because it was always the understanding that you were going to make Duraflex money, you know, and so and so if we can, you know, see that, and, and, you know, that would see where they're coming from, you know, that would strengthen our feeling about it, right? Speaker 4 00:32:33 And, you know, and if we wanted to fight, then we'd have ammunition, right? But I'm, like, the last thing I'm going to do is send you in to go fight for this. That's not my, that's not even, you know, honestly, I heard that you wanted to fight in the beginning, right? Because you were fighting him. And so I was saying, okay, let me help you gather your thoughts. Speaker 4 00:33:05 But I'm... Speaker 4 00:34:22 Yeah, which is fine, but, but, give me, hear me what I'm saying, though, I'm really interested in it, I'm, I'm interested in you feeling good about yourself, right, and one thing that's not gonna help you feel good about yourself is you worrying about, like, your husband, you know, because he doesn't like the situation, so, even if I thought that you needed to go right now to, you know, Dan, which I don't, but, Speaker 4 00:35:15 for the record, even if I thought that you did, I wouldn't say it. Um, because you can't handle that, that stress right now, you can handle anything I put on you, but it just wouldn't be good for you, you know, and I'd rather not have the money, than, you know, than for you to, you know, if it's going to, if it's going to create more pressure on you, I don't want the money. Speaker 4 00:35:46 Okay. So don't worry about me. I'm, I'm here for you. Not for me. I'm here for you. And if I'm not doing a good job of that, you let me know and I'll change. Speaker 3 00:36:13 All right, honey. I got a run. I got a lot of things. Speaker 4 00:36:20 The words of my wife. All righty-dighty. I love you. I'll talk to you later. Speaker 3 00:36:26 I love you too, baby. All right. Bye, baby. Speaker 8 00:37:05 But, I mean, just a guy question. I'll ask Lilacs about it later. Just, okay, we're not going to throw anything at you. It doesn't matter what time you come in. Speaker 2 00:37:15 Two-dollar ticket. and you're in the middle of a Godfather. There isn't an American male over the age of 40 who can walk past the Godfather and not sit down and start watching it. Except Godfather 3. Nobody sits down and watches that. But every other... And Pod Horse has got a great story about that today, by the way, on the Commentary Podcast. But Robert Duvall was my guest on the program in 2010. And I remember one thing about it. Speaker 8 00:37:41 He was there to promote a different movie before the Oscar vote. So he was doing the Hollywood thing, up there promoting a movie. It wasn't for himself. It was for his co-star. Here's that cut number. Robert Duvall, you won the Oscar in 1983 for portraying this alcoholic country singer Max Sledge in Tender Mercies. And now Jeff Bridges is nominated for Best Actor for playing Bad Blake in Crazy Heart. There's another alcoholic country singer. Did you guys compare notes on these two characters and how to get smart about an addicted drinker. Speaker 9 00:38:12 I didn't compare notes at all. Speaker 8 00:38:16 He's gonna win. Yeah, he'll win the Oscar. I think he should it's a magnificent role to those two characters up much in common. Speaker 9 00:38:22 Who best performances this year are him and this and the kid the young guy in the Hurt Locker. Speaker 8 00:38:28 You see a Hurt Locker? Yeah magnificent movie, but. Speaker 9 00:38:32 But it but we won't talk about that one my movie the decade, but we won't talk about. Speaker 8 00:38:37 But what about bad Blake and and max ledge? Are they are they the same guy or they different people. Speaker 9 00:38:43 No, no different music different guys different actors, you know different guys similar similar back I mean, it's like it saying is a moral Haggard, The same as Waylon Jennings, or Waylon Jennings is the same as Johnny Cash. They sing the same kinds of music, but they're different guys, different individuals, but somewhat similar journeys in life, you know what I'm saying. Speaker 8 00:39:04 Yeah. Speaker 9 00:39:05 Especially from a negative aspect, you know, a negative journey. Speaker 8 00:39:08 How did you come by your knowledge of alcoholics? I mean, how do you train up to play that, or to play Wayne in this movie? To play what? To play Wayne, the friend who's his sponsor. Speaker 2 00:39:22 What was interesting about this, is he's 80 years old, and he doesn't hear very well, 16 years ago. But what I really, Jeremy Renner was the guy in Hurt Locker, and he said, best movie of the decade. So he's booked to come on to promote. Jeff Bridges in a different movie and he cannot not promote the Hurt Locker because that's who he was. I mean, I've watched pretty much every Robert Duvall movie a couple of times because I just think he's such a fabulous actor. And he had nothing to do with Hollywood. I learned that. Speaker 8 00:39:58 he played Stalin twice. I haven't seen those from John Podhors. I knew he was an anti-communist. I. Speaker 2 00:40:03 knew he lived in Virginia. He left horses. He had a farm out in Virginia. And he's kind of he's just not into the Hollywood world. He just did his work. He loved tango dancing. He made a movie about, The Assassination Tango, which was one of his last flicks. He also made Lay Down with Bill Murray, which is a hilarious movie if you haven't seen it. But The Great Santini is the one that makes the Fetching Mrs. Hewitt cry, because it's about Marines. And my friend Glenn Byers knew, Pat Conroy a little bit, or knew Pat Conroy's dad. I can't quite remember it. But that's who The Great Santini is about. And it's magnificent. He should have won the Best Actor for that. He won it for Tender Mercy. But the very best thing I can recommend. Speaker 2 00:40:34 to anyone out there is that you watch Lonesome Dove. If you haven't watched Lonesome Dove with Tommy Lee Jones and Robert Duvall, you haven't watched great television. It's the equal of any television ever made. I think Addams by HBO is up there. There are a few other series made for television, which are fabulous television. But that was early on. Lonesome Dove and Blue Duck. Oh, Blue Duck. And I loved the book. And I always wanted to interview Larry McMurtry, but Carl wouldn't let me do it. He said, no, you're not up to that. And he's probably right. I've read everything by the way Larry McMurtry and Carl wouldn't let me interview him. But Blue Duck is the greatest villain, in villain land. And if you don't know who Blue Duck is, then you haven't read Lonesome Dove. You haven't read Lonesome Dove. There are two prequels and two sequels to Lonesome Dove, by the way. There are five books in the McMurtry series. But the television show, it was on... Is it the 90s? Or is it the 80s? The 90s. And I don't know where it's available, Speaker 2 00:41:06 if it's available anywhere. But if you can go and get it, go and get it. We won't miss Robert Duvall. We won't miss Jesse Jackson. Now let's go to the president on Air Force One, cut number 15. Speaker 10 00:41:12 They're very unhappy that there's a movement. We're getting closer. The population, 98%, want voter ID. They don't want voter ID because they want to cheat in elections. They also want other things. They don't want bail-in ballots. They want to hand the bail-in ballots. And one other thing that they're insisting on is proof of citizenship. And the Democrats don't want to give proof of citizenship. They don't want to give voter ID. They want proof of citizenship. I ask you to say that. Speaker 2 00:41:29 People want to cheat. Let's just be, if it's not close, they can't cheat. A book I wrote in 2004, maybe the book I wrote, other than In Bet Not Out, that sold the most and was on the New York Times list for the longest, because it's just a history of Democratic Party cheating. And it's well-researched, and I know it, and I know the subject matter. It's in their DNA. They want to cheat. And that's okay. That's sort of the American drama. But we also need not to let them cheat easily. They've got to be smart about it. And this is just too easy to go pick up ballots that are lying around in places. You've got to make them work for it if they're going to cheat. Then on Air Force One, he gets asked about Iran. Their foreign minister came out and lied to them and said they had a great meeting and were very close. No, we're not. Cut number 17. What are you expecting from these Iran talks in Geneva tomorrow. Speaker 10 00:41:52 So I'll be involved in those talks indirectly. And they'll be very important. We'll see what can happen. And typically, Iran's a very tough negotiator. They're good negotiators. More bad negotiators. We could add a deal instead of sending the B-2s. It's enough out there. We have potential. We have to send the B-2s. I hope they're going to be more reasonable. They want to make a deal. But if they're told that a deal is next to impossible? No, I think they want to make a deal. Speaker 2 00:42:08 that is by the way the great steve holland steve holland is with lawyers i traveled abroad with him and jumped with nsa anyway for other reporters fairly a couple of people and we had a fabulous trip steve holland is a pro bro he's absolutely straight up listen let's start that again just a straight up question what are you expecting from these advanced officers tomorrow i see that is a perfect question what are you the president expecting from this iran talk tomorrow meaning they were talking on monday not today tuesday and steve holland is just a reporter reporter he is the the brand the gold standard just ask the question get out of the way of the answer bravo i attended a rally of 250 000 people in munich it's one of the most satisfying experiences in my profession, This has to be the most powerful smartwatch the world has ever seen. Speaker 2 00:42:41 Just pop it on your wrist and in three seconds, it accurately tracks 20 for vital health stats, blood sugar. That is Lindsey Graham, I am Hugh Hewitt, and my guest is Josh Holmes, one of the fellas on the Ruthless podcast, the farthest left on your radio dial, as you go left to right, but not politically. Mr. Holmes, I'm sure you work with one Lindsey Graham's team and the senator himself when you're in the Senate. When he says that, is he doing wish fulfillment, or do you think he's accurately gauging the situation. Speaker 11 00:42:59 Well, I think he sees himself as holding down, you know, however you want to brand it, the New York Con version of the party or whatever, but he has a very specific point of view when it comes to international conflict, and America's role in the world, and he's always done that. I mean, look, there's not a lot of iterations of Lindsey Graham over the years, but this is one consistency that he has fulfilled, and I think, honestly, whether or not it plays a huge component in what it is that the Trump administration decides to do here remains to be seen, but I think he's, look, it's a segment of the party. Speaker 2 00:43:20 You know, it's my segment of the party. I love Lindsey Graham, and I like that, by the way, this is in good humor. Lindsey's a political cicada. He shows up every six years when he's running for re-election, does the show a lot, and he goes away for five years, because that's who he is. And so he comes up out of the ground, and so he'll be on a lot, but he never stops talking about national security. And I'm always impressed by that. He's been consistent for as long as he's been in the House and the Senate, Josh. Speaker 11 00:43:35 Yeah, no, I think that's right. I mean, look, Lindsey is an interesting fit for today's day and age in the Republican Party, in that his point of view is not particularly different than it was in the immediate post-Iraq war point of view. He does it unapologetically, and he invites all Congress to critique him on a day-to-day basis. And so, look, I think he plays a valuable role, much in the same way that other elements of the party do, too. I think this particular moment in time suggests that there's an awful lot of Trump foreign policy that follows his point of view. Speaker 2 00:43:55 And I think, I hope it continues. Now, Josh, I want to turn to the Senate. I have an article today for Fox News, our employer, and it's about the talking filibuster, and the short version is, not now, not ever, never. It's a terrible idea. The majority leader would lose control of the floor. It would eat up precious floor time. I have no idea if you've talked about this, if you haven't listened to today's show yet. What do you think of the talking filibuster? I love Mike Lee, by the way, good man, belonged on the Supreme Court, maybe, but the talking filibuster is a terrible idea. Speaker 11 00:44:12 It's sort of how I feel about professors versus practitioners, in that there are a whole bunch of ideas that would make what you want in this particular moment in time attainable. But if you look at a longer view of practitioners... I can tell you, as somebody who served the highest levels of senior leadership in the United States Senate between 2008 and 2014, the amount of horrible ideas that had been stopped by the United States Senate as a result of the filibuster, you all would have full social, we would have nationalized health care, we would have open borders codified by a statutory, by the way, everything the left is complaining about that Donald Trump is doing in terms of deportations, they're complaining against statutes written by the. Speaker 11 00:44:43 Congress and signed into law by the President of the United States. If not for the filibuster, none of that would exist. So I find it just incredibly short-sighted that you would ever get rid of the filibuster for a fairly modest goal in comparison to what the left would love to get the filibuster done with in order to remake the American economy. Speaker 2 00:44:56 And expand the Supreme Court and make Puerto Rico, which would be constitutionally a state D.C., cannot constitutionally be made a state, but they would try. Now, Josh, I want to get to one more topic with you. Ruthless Podcast has got a gazillion producers because your listeners are producers. You've got four hosts, you've got four producers, and then you've got the fellows behind the cameras who are producers. I still want to suggest something for you. Did you listen to former President Obama's interview on Saturday night with Brian Tyler Cohen. Speaker 11 00:45:11 We did. One, I listened to it, but two, more importantly, I listened to you and break that down. It's just the vacuous nature of the entire conversation. I will say, Duncan on our team took particular problems with the alien thing, where he's like, hey, dude. that aliens exist, and he's like, they do exist. And then, no follow-up? No, like, yes, the former president of the United States says aliens exist, and you don't ask him, well, how do you know they exist? Where are they? How do they work? Like, no, no follow-up whatsoever. It seems like a pretty big development for something. Speaker 2 00:45:31 that you just sort of, like, sweep away. Duncan got to the end of the interview, man. I was on a plane. I was trapped. So I had nothing to do except watch it. It's the worst interview in terms of a professional interviewer I've ever heard. There is no follow-up. They don't ask him about 35,000 dead Iranians with weapons provided by the billion and a half dollars in pallet money that we sent him. I only got through 15 minutes, Josh. Have you guys gone deeper. Speaker 11 00:45:45 I think Duncan has. I, like you, have a tolerance for this sort of thing, because I've sort of just accepted the fact that it's all vacuous. It's all nonsensical. It's all about trying to promote your point of view to people who don't do the homework. And that's like the modern day Democratic Party. Speaker 2 00:45:56 Well put. If nobody knows anything, Obama sounds pretty good in that interview. Exactly. If they don't know anything about it. Now, I don't know that that's true about AOC. Here's the President of the United States on Air Force One yesterday, cut number 14. By the way, I watched AOC answering questions in Munich. This was not a good look for the United States. Speaker 11 00:46:07 I've got to apologize. What did you make of that display? She has absolutely no, the only thing more dangerous than somebody who has absolutely no idea what they're talking about is somebody who doesn't know they have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. And that is AOC. I think the problem is that she's much more dangerous to your regular American than people think. sort of dismiss that her whole goal is to try to consolidate people who don't go that far they don't think about this this far and they try to make these cases that have no historical basis of success whatsoever but don't you think it's natural she says that the cowboys didn't come from spain yeah no i would hope i mean her name is last name is cortez how do you think that happened how do you think that happened you know i mean i just i can't i literally can't with this. Speaker 10 00:46:45 person but there's so much of the electric it's just so open i have not thought about that until this moment josh holmes did you guys talk about that on today's show we didn't i just thought about that just now all right there's your opening on thursday i think you gotta you gotta go back and play the tape it's sort of like a bad super bowl uh josh holmes always a pleasure. Speaker 2 00:47:01 Welcome back, America. That's Cortez the Killer by Neil Young. I think Josh Holmes gets the, whatever award we give in the Salem New Channel Universe for funny line of the year because we call her AOC. I forgot her last name is Cortez and she didn't know there's a speck. Of course it's, oh, Josh Holmes. Wrote this podcast pretty funny. It's R-rated, right? Their language is, as Brady Hume said two weeks ago, it's a rollicking good show. I have, I'm mourning, actually, Robert Duvall died and Jesse Jackson was quite a character in American politics and I've honored to interview him a couple of times. He brought Al Sharpton to the KCT studios one time back in the aftermath of the LA riots and the Reverend Al at that time was rather pudgy and wore tracksuits. I think it's before Crown Heights, before he became a villain, before he became not a villain again. But Jesse Jackson was always uniquely American, anti-Semitic and he atoned for that or tried to. Speaker 2 00:47:31 but he was anti-Semitic. And I'm mourning that but really Robert Duvall, and I'll tell you why, got me to think. There are only two places to see movies in America in my view, in my experience. I mean, I lived in Boston, I lived in New York City. Going to a movie in New York City is a nightmare. I mean, you gotta go up like 10 escalators to get to the movie theater. But Westwood, and I'm gonna consult Dwayne on this, Westwood is the best place. Do I have to throw something at the glass? Let's go. I have to knock on the glass again to come over and talk to me. Generally speaking, how many people would fit into Big Newport? Speaker 2 00:48:01 How many people would fit into what? Big Newport, the movie theater. Probably 5,600. That's all? There are three theaters. Are there any other theaters like that in Orange County? There's, of course, the Westwood theaters where they would have great big premieres. The IMAX over in... That's late, though. That's late game. It's a lot of screens. IMAX is different, I admit. But back in the day, when my boys were young, I know they're 30, no, this is three years ago, and a big picture would open. Jurassic Park, Independence Day. I mean, back in the day. Speaker 10 00:48:20 if you're talking in the 70s when Star Wars opened. Speaker 2 00:48:21 yeah, Star Wars. I saw Star Wars there in 78. Speaker 10 00:48:22 So the big place locally, kind of here, too, was a place called the Synodome in Orange. It had six theaters. Speaker 2 00:48:27 I did not see the Synodome. And I don't think that... There's no movies? They just don't make movies this morning? Well, that's because of streaming. I'm not critiquing Hollywood, but I am critiquing the fact that, when you would have a movie line... In fact, most of you don't even know what a movie line is because now you buy your seat in advance. But a movie line is when you would get in line and you would wait patiently for 45 minutes or 50 minutes like a Disney ride. And, of course, the people who went to USC would cut in in front. That's what they did. A USC person would always cut in and the boys would say, what's that? I don't want to go to USC. And they'd think they're in front of the line. And that was always true. Speaker 2 00:48:57 I talked to them inside the theater. Excuse me, when are you from college? Where'd you go? USC. Always the same. But when it was Jurassic Park or Star Wars, that experience has gone. American Graffiti, any great big movie. It depended upon great big screens, depended on Westwood, where especially Mr. Hewitt and I saw a number of movies in the late 70s, and then again in the 90s, we were gone to D.C. for the 80s. And the Uptown, the Killing Fields, the Uptown in D.C. was a great big movie theater. They don't exist anymore, they don't make a return, they have to drop those screens, they're just no bigger than, you know, your home television set. But I regret that. The only thing I don't regret, we did take my boys when they were young to see Team America, and don't do that. That was a mistake. I'm so wrongly. I'm so wrongly, but I did not know. I was innocent. I did not know what that movie was about. Speaker 2 00:49:29 And I was frozen in my seat as my 14-year-old... Okay, there you go. And there's a mistake to be made by every dad in every movie, and I don't know what you do, you're frozen there, and you think it gets worse, and it does get worse. But also, it was very funny, the boys thought it was very funny, and they worked for me, and they did it like that. No more Robert De Niro opening, no more Godfather, no more Star Wars, no more Independence Day Jurassic Park. Speaker 12 00:49:45 This thing has a laser avoidance system, has auto-takeoff, auto-land, follow-me function. Speaker 13 00:49:53 You are starting to see the events of... Even in places like Munich, Marco Rubio's speech was a pure appeal to Western culture. My favorite part was when he said that American cowboys came from Spain. I believe the Mexicans and descendants of African enslaved peoples would have a word. Speaker 2 00:50:09 Welcome back, America. That is the aforementioned AOC. I'm joined by David M. Drucker of the Dispatch. David, Josh Holmes just said her last name is Cortez. When is she missing. Speaker 14 00:50:16 Yeah, I mean, talk to the people of New Mexico, because there's a long line of Spanish descendants. Americans from many generations over. But look, this continent has been enriched by people from all over Europe, not to mention people from Central and South America. So, who knows. Speaker 2 00:50:26 Well, horses aren't native to North and South America. That's been always the rap on the Book of Mormon, right? Because it's got horses in it. There weren't any horses here. Speaker 14 00:50:32 Yeah, I mean, I'm not aware of that detail. I'm not dismissing it. But we all know that. We all learned that in grade school. We've forgotten it. I've probably forgotten more than I remember. But when you mention it, it all sounds familiar. AOC is a very good politician. She's very good at connecting with people. She's a very adept populist. But there are many things she does not appear to know. Speaker 2 00:50:44 I think she's going to be their nominee, and I think we would— From Manuel Arias, translated, waiting for you to come to explain the measures. I'm going to have lunch. Me being Republican, not you being a journalist who is non-partisan, but I being a Republican partisan, we would be well advised not to underestimate her despite the fact she gives us ample reason to do so. David, you are a native son in California, aren't you? I am. Okay, so I want to know, you're younger than I am by a lot, but when you would go to... Speaker 4 00:51:09 Okay, come on. I will be there in nine minutes. Speaker 2 00:51:16 Big movies in your teen days. Speaker 14 00:51:17 Would you go to Westwood or would you go down to Newport Beach for Big Newport? So, you know, I grew up in Malibu, down in Santa Monica, in West LA, so I've always been to Westwood Village. We had a man's ruin, we had a man's village. I think those two big theaters are still there, but that's where I grew up seeing movies. Speaker 2 00:51:28 So, I learned a couple weeks ago that Big Newport, I don't go to California in 78, I started going to Big Newport and I went to Westwood as well, and those theaters are dinosaurs and they're turning down Big Newport. I bring out the Robert Duvall guy, and I think the Godfather on the small screen would not have been the Godfather. Speaker 14 00:51:38 Well, I think one of the things that we're missing, just because of innovation and the evolution of the entertainment industry, is that movies were big, shared, cultural phenomena, right? I mean, I remember as a kid, in kindergarten, it would have been 1976-ish, 75, 76, and Star Wars was the biggest, the first Star Wars, the very first, which was technically number three or six, whatever the heck it is in the storyline, was the biggest thing to ever hit movie theaters at that time. And it was such a shared cultural phenomenon. My parents didn't actually take me to see it, but I just told everybody I saw it, because I didn't want to be left out. And, you know, you couldn't see movies any other way but in the theater back then, except you waited five or six or seven years, and then you could see the commercials on network television. So, just, I love it. Speaker 2 00:52:06 I saw Star Wars at Bing Newport in the summer of 1978, and I will never forget. I'm just curious if they have the same experience in Westwood that I did at Bing Newport. You know, the lines exist. If you had to get in line, you couldn't reserve a seat. So the lines would be out there for 45 minutes, an hour, you would wait. And then, inevitably, someone would cut in in the front, and they went to USC. Was that your experience. Speaker 14 00:52:17 Completely. I saw it in 1989. I graduated from high school. We went to Santa Monica, Westwood Village, and got in line for a midnight showing. And it was blocks long, and they ran out of tickets for a midnight showing. That's just how big of a deal movies were. But, you know, obviously, it's a company town in L.A., and it's out of California broadly. But, again, shared cultural experiences that are not quite the same now, just given all of the different ways we can see movies first run. Speaker 2 00:52:34 Well, I know you're brewing, but can you confirm that they had a class at Trojan Land where how to cut in the line and say, I'm from USC? Is that what, did they teach that at USC. Speaker 14 00:52:40 I don't doubt it. I mean, anything that's uncouth or unethical, they probably taught there. Speaker 2 00:52:43 That's it, that's it. And I can't help it that their band doesn't have trumpets. They've never had trumpets, and people get upset about that. David, would you go to the Rose Bowl for UCLA Bruin Games? Were you the guy that was there. Speaker 14 00:52:49 Yeah, I was there. In fact, I grew up, I almost never missed a home game, but basically my entire childhood. My father adopted UCLA back in the 40s when they played at the Coliseum and didn't really have much of a program compared to USC, so he adopted the underdog. And I grew up first going to the Coliseum and then the Rose Bowl. It's really the only thing I really miss about living in Southern California, is UCLA football and basketball games. Not with Sandy, and I've not had much to cheer about, but I still miss it. Speaker 2 00:53:04 Did you, are you old enough to have gone to see a woman in his prime. Speaker 14 00:53:06 I'm old enough that I was there for games, I'm not old enough to remember that but I went to his basketball camps and that I had very experiences oh yeah and where he coached me and he was very active at his camps I would get his autograph I would eat meals with him we used to, they used to do the basketball camp at Cal Lutheran University and it was at the same time that the Dallas Cowboys were there for a training camp so I was hanging out I mean we'd be in the same mess hall as Tony Dorsett and all of them it was a different world back then very much. Speaker 2 00:53:23 did John Wooten teach you how to tie your shoes at his camp. Speaker 14 00:53:26 double socks, tie your shoes and almost everything he taught us was without basketball, all of the defensive drills all of the shooting drills there was no basketball it was all about muscle memory and fundamentals. Speaker 2 00:53:33 yeah I hope you're right about that David because I'm not a Californian I'm a transplant but everyone who's a native had lunch with John Wooten at some point or knew him somewhere because he was ubiquitous he was also such a good person and lived modestly I think out in the valley somewhere after he retired and would go to breakfast at the same place every day have you ever written about him. Speaker 14 00:53:45 I've never written about him he never made I find my memory serves he never made more than $27,000 annually as head coach of the UCLA Bruins men's basketball program he ended up in Encino he would go to the same diner or coffee shop every day and I forget the name and he ended up making money as a sneaker. Speaker 2 00:53:57 I'm going to ask you about Jesse Jackson since you're a political writer and you'll remember that so I'm going to get two minutes of David Drucker on the other side about Jesse Jackson don't go anywhere America I'm going to do it America I'm going to do it, David Drucker I ask you to stick around because you've covered Jesse Jackson for a long time what's his place in American political history. Speaker 14 00:54:06 I mean, he's an iconic Democratic politician and social activist, you know, I mean, he's one of those politicians or activists that, you know, in the 80s in particular, just for somebody my age, you know, I knew who the president was, I knew who the governor was, and Justin Jackson is somebody who I knew who he was, because he kind of just a very sort of, he was a ubiquitous presence, but, you know, he was somebody who just was a major figure. Now, obviously, you know, there were plenty of things he did that conservatives disagree with, Democrats didn't agree with him all the time, he sometimes said and did things that were, that he shouldn't have said, and that's, you know, there was a Heineken remark that he made with anti-Semitic overtones, but when you're just looking for an influential figure with longevity in American politics who was very influential, who Democrats will tell you, really, you know, in a sense, forced them to loosen the rules of the nominating process, which later cleared the way for somebody like Barack Obama to have a shot as an outsider in the Democratic primary, and who was a mentor to other African American activists, civil rights activists, I mean, the man's career is hard to match. Speaker 2 00:54:51 Well said. Extraordinary career with its valleys, with its peaks, and a valley that will be remembered for years and years and years. David M. Drucker on X, thank you for joining me from the dispatch. I wanted someone to cover it and actually condense that. You did it. Thank you, friend. I want to remind you, I'm in the Only Factor studio, and it's time for me to take it. I did not go up the Implacable Hill today, because I was finishing C.J. It was raining like mad. And that's reason number one. But I also was finishing C.J. Box's brand new book, The Crossroads, and I'll talk to him about it in hour three today. But I'm Karen Kirkman, who's the editor-in-chief of Omega. If you're watching on the Salem News channel, you'll see me take it right now, because I always do, in hour number one. Speaker 2 00:55:22 anti-inflammatory system. I'm now in my 13th year of taking it, and that's because it works. I've been offered a lot of money to endorse a lot of other supplements, and I politely decline. 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Speaker 12 00:56:29 But I do think, you know, when you get to that point, you bone up and you're ready for a debate. I think there's a bigger question about, you know, her experience. She's clearly a political talent and gets a lot of people fired up. But I'm not sure that the party's going to rally besides the left side of the party, the Democratic Party, I'm saying. Speaker 2 00:56:42 I talked with President Trump in January, and I asked him about AOC. And he said she's quite a talent. She's got a lot of, I think I used the word sparkler, he did. But she's never done an interview. This was really the first interview I've seen where she was asked anything. Have you ever had a chance to talk to her? Did she go an arm's way. Speaker 12 00:56:51 It's been a while. I mean, it's probably been, let's see, four years. I pressed on a couple of things. She was savvy, had a good sense of things, but that was her wheelhouse. This was taking her out of her wheelhouse every day. And I guess just thinking about how she's dealt with other things, maybe the bar was a little bit higher. Speaker 2 00:57:08 Yesterday I spent an hour on the show and the first 15 minutes of the former President Obama's interview released on Saturday night with Brian and Tyler Cohen. And it took me an hour to get through 15 minutes because it was vacuous. It was utterly devoid of substance, as I suppose many of my thinkers would say his presidency was. Have you had a chance to watch that yet, Fred. Speaker 12 00:57:20 Yeah, I did watch it. I watched the whole thing. What did you think? Unbelievable as it is. I watched the whole thing. Besides the alien back and forth and cleanup, I was, you know, it felt like Obama of old. You know, the first time I sat down with him was three days before Obamacare, the legislation was voted on in the House. And I was going to be 30 minutes in the blue room. And then I got there and he said, OK, Fred, we're going to do 20 minutes. I said, Mr. President, whatever time you have is great. And so the first question I asked was a four-minute answer. And the second question was a three-minute answer. And there was a White House staff member with an iPhone taking backwards from 20 minutes in my line of sight. And so it did not surprise me, you know, some of those long-length answers and kind of how he delivers. Speaker 12 00:57:51 On substance, I think he maybe saved AOC a bit because, you know, the former president speaking out takes a lot. So, you know, he's sort of like a bug zapper in the backyard. It kind of gets all the folks. Speaker 2 00:57:58 All I got from that interview was that he signaled AOC and Gavin Newsom are acceptable. He did not mention Josh Shapiro. He did not mention Governor Beshear. He didn't mention anyone on the kind of center left side of the Democratic Party. He was progressive, progressive. And I think he was in that to signal. He wasn't there to answer any questions. And he didn't get asked about Iran, which is sort of astonishing. I don't know if Mr. Cohen may be new to this game. He doesn't do a lot of Democrats. But you've got to ask at least a couple of tough ones, don't you, Brett. Speaker 12 00:58:14 I mean, especially on Iran, that is in the middle of negotiations, you know, about a nuclear program that you signed a JCPOA and authorized money going to Iran. That arguably, a lot of experts say, fueled their efforts to fund terrorist proxies. Speaker 2 00:58:29 Yeah, I think he's probably, he's 35 or 37 years old. Brett, let me go back to your Pentagon days. I think you were there for the buildup before Afghanistan. I mean, I know you were there for the buildup at the Pentagon before Afghanistan. Were you still there for the buildup to Iraq in 2003 or had you gone over to the... Yeah, no, I was there for, uh, from... Speaker 15 00:58:42 Police, pressure washer repair said yes. Speaker 2 00:58:46 One, two, oh, six. So you've seen this massive deployment of military resources. Have you seen... Speaker 12 00:58:52 No. We'll keep on focusing on the naval assets, but the Air Force has moved a ton of equipment over into the region just in the past three days. And, yeah, we haven't seen any invasion of Russia as just a threat. Speaker 2 00:59:13 A regime change done in Serbia with Milosevic via the air, done in Qaddafi land via the air. But I don't think you can dig the IRGC out of their holes in Iran. 92 million people. Do you agree with me on that? You can't do it just in your campaign. Speaker 12 00:59:21 No, I agree with you. There has to be some kind of round component, but I don't know what the plan is for that. And right now, I don't see opposition forces that are unified or under one leader. Speaker 2 00:59:28 So, exit question. Given the foreign minister coming out today and saying, we're going to go for next week and we're going to get together, and then Channel 12 in Israel reporting that the Americans told the Israelis we're at a dead end, where do you see the truth in this chat and this wilderness of mirrors we're in. Speaker 12 00:59:36 I think that Wyckoff and Kushner will be pretty blunt with the president, and that if it's a sense that it's not going anywhere, they will say that. I think that the Iranian foreign minister, you saw him on my show. It was like Baghdad Bob, you know, where nothing's happening here. As the tanks roll by, he gets it out of his hand. So, I don't think you can take those statements of where the negotiations are as face value. I think that there's going to be an assessment. And while the president wants a diplomatic solution, I don't think they're going to wait forever. Speaker 2 00:59:57 Okay, last question. In 2003-2001, Chairman Meyers did a lot of talking. Vice Chairman Pace did a lot of talking. W didn't. Who's going to be doing talking if we do? Rumsfeld came out and talked almost every day. Running was great. Hey, who's going to be doing the talking on this. Speaker 12 01:00:05 That's a great question. I think it's probably the president. And I think he's probably going to run point. I don't think it's going to be Secretary Hicks and General King. Speaker 4 01:00:15 Is it possible to have it ready tomorrow, question mark. Speaker 12 01:00:23 It's kept a low profile. But you're right. I mean, back when I covered the Pentagon, it was daytime soap opera when Secretary Rumsfeld and Myers came out. Speaker 2 01:00:30 It was very illuminating. It was also funny. I still remember Myers saying to Pace, I didn't know Marines had big words like that. But it was grand. Brett, we'll be watching tonight for the latest out of Iran. Don't miss special report every night on your TV on the Fox News Channel at 6 p.m. Eastern. Thank you, Brett. Welcome back, America. I'm Duke Hewitt. Amazon doesn't need my advice. But if Prime is listening, put Lonesome Dove on right now. That's the music from Lonesome Dove. And the Americans who have seen it will watch it again. My friend Carl just won't watch it. He'll crawl down to Texas and he thinks it's about Pennsylvania. It's not about... Speaker 4 01:02:02 How's it going. Speaker 5 01:03:30 Thanks for watching! Speaker 5 01:06:19 Peace. Speaker 5 01:07:58 Shh, shh. Speaker 5 01:19:05 Thanks for watching! Speaker 5 01:21:59 Peace. Speaker 5 01:27:60 Thank you. Speaker 5 01:30:20 Yeah. Speaker 4 01:31:51 hey can you hear me it's confirmed i was told hey you're not expecting me to clean all that stuff up. Speaker 15 01:32:13 are you like no no i've got a job yeah i'm good um you're getting into like three blocks. Speaker 4 01:32:56 so okay yeah okay i gotta handle something real quick here um so i can get on the road um do you need to talk about something else or or okay cool i'll uh i'll hit you back in a little bit. Speaker 4 01:33:35 okay one and seven eighths no muscle mental yeah. right so two and an eighth for the most part yeah right for the for the cement right the the cement is is out but but for the so two and one eighth is. Speaker 16 01:34:21 the high point we'll make it five eight yeah yeah and last minute yeah five eights in the back only like 10 feet in the middle because the metal is right so what's the two and one eight the high point but what's that what's the the other side yeah it's two and one eighth. Speaker 16 01:34:54 yeah what's the largest. Speaker 4 01:34:59 Two and one eighths for one side, two and... Oh yeah. It's... Speaker 16 01:35:04 Yeah, it's only... In the middle, it's like 10 feet, more or less, in the middle. The two and one quarter and five sixteenths. Speaker 4 01:35:15 Okay. So no more than a quarter. Speaker 16 01:35:17 Yeah, exactly. Speaker 4 01:35:17 Okay. It's okay. Yeah, that's okay. So... Okay. The... I plug this in. Oh, okay. For the... If you put a pump there, I'll plug it into here, put it in maybe over there. Speaker 4 01:35:55 Okay. tomorrow i can turn on the pump an hour you know oh yeah wi-fi yeah so plug this into the wall and then one extension cord right to the pump leave it set up and tomorrow i'll run it for an hour turn it off run it for an hour oh yeah but we should so we'll use one with a with a hold up. Speaker 16 01:36:28 yeah maybe even just tie the extension around the 2x4 and put the pump in the in the bottom yeah. Speaker 4 01:36:51 And then, Renee, maybe call me, hey, I've got it on, you know, and you and I can look, I can look at it, see if I see it on and everything, and then I'll, I can turn it off, turn it on, we can do a little test, make sure it's working right, just to... Yeah, we'll leave the Wi-Fi box set up over there by T, then. So I hooked it up to the house Wi-Fi, because I didn't want to, I didn't want to, uh, change it. Okay, so, and then 166 and three quarters. Speaker 16 01:37:24 166 and one, what is that, one inches? So 165 and, no. 165. Speaker 4 01:37:37 165 and three quarters? Okay. 165, three quarters, plus, uh, two and a half. Speaker 17 01:37:52 and that's yeah it's in the night yeah. okay i think so. Speaker 4 01:38:30 the question is is what are they going to do when they are done when when brandon is done. Speaker 17 01:38:47 so how long do you think it'll take. And then you throw it to a spray cup and cover everything over there, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Speaker 4 01:39:46 Alright, so you don't need the measurements. Yeah. Speaker 16 01:39:49 I need the measurements. it's it's one six one one six five yeah and three quarters more okay yeah okay. Speaker 4 01:40:15 all right um so friday i'll bring the pressure washer um i'll bring the gun, i think we i don't know where the hose is i think but we have it i don't have it it's got to be here the pressure washer because i'm going to bring a new gun that's what i'm saying, so new bring the pressure washer and the gun we've got rapid set over there. Speaker 4 01:40:52 we'll probably need more but i'll worry about that okay and then but i need you guys to really think about you know what do we need so you can you know we're going to need to mix we need some buckets you know all that good fun stuff vacuum right okay so all right i'm going to run over there right now just to make sure everything's good and uh let me know if you need anything. Speaker 4 01:41:24 probably drive huh you know but i'm getting worked out yesterday with my boys i'm so sore but it's so great working out with them yeah we're getting there we're getting there so, cool um i got the staples i didn't get the boots because i figured you know. Yeah, but they're for, like, you know, they're for, like, my kids. They're so small. Speaker 4 01:41:57 But, and also, I hooked them up with their Wi-Fi plug, so I figured for, if they hook that up before they leave, I told Renee to call me so we can test it. Okay. Then I can turn it on, you know, for a couple hours here and there. Not that you have to worry about that, but I'm just, you like knowing, so I tell you. Oh, you're safe, man. Did you see him? Yeah, yeah, they're right there. Thank you. Okay, cool. Thanks, guys. Speaker 5 01:52:45 ROOF. Speaker 1 01:56:50 Hey, um, try, uh, try and see if you can turn off the, I connected, uh, the pump to, to the outlet you told me. Speaker 4 01:57:06 Of course. Now it tells me, Hey, firmware update. Okay. So it looks like it's on right now. Is that right. Speaker 6 01:57:16 Yeah. It's on right now. Speaker 4 01:57:17 Okay. Should be off now. Speaker 6 01:57:20 You turned it off. Yeah. You turn it off. Speaker 4 01:57:23 Okay. I'm gonna turn it back on. Speaker 6 01:57:29 Should be back on. Yeah. It's on. Okay. All good. Yeah. It's on. It works. Awesome. All right. Cool. Speaker 4 01:57:41 Thank you, sir. Speaker 6 01:57:42 All right. Bye. Speaker 15 01:58:03 Manuel, translated, clicked, and sent an OK hand sign emoji. [AI_SUMMARY] No content