record_id: 312f8b3e-f83d-8187-84f7-dd8f332751f2
created_time: 2026-02-25T00:36:00.000Z
title: 02-24 Training: Coating Application, Work Ethic, and Mentorship
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Speaker 1 00:00:03
Okay. Yeah, I like that idea. I'm sorry for the short cabin. None of us had that conversation before, so I apologize.
Speaker 1 00:02:03
Okay.
Speaker 2 00:09:09
But it can still. It's your preference, but the table is wobbly. Okay. We can work on it later. Um, I I can I I think there's a, we can.
Speaker 1 00:19:56
I know. It's my idea. It moved a little bit? Right. Huh? There you go.
Speaker 1 00:23:17
Okay.
Speaker 1 00:51:35
Yeah, very much. They're like they do the same. 
Speaker 3 00:51:42
Cause uh they're so long. They like when they bend too easy. So it's gonna take them a. 
Speaker 1 00:51:48
Long time to like get a uh from. 
Speaker 1 00:52:10
No. No. I can, but I don't want to do it today. Because. 
Speaker 3 00:52:26
It'll take me. It'll take me like. 
Speaker 1 00:52:30
45 minutes to get there. 45 minutes to get back.
Speaker 1 00:52:39
You can't do it with the level.
Speaker 1 00:53:55
Martin, you can. Martin,
Speaker 2 00:54:00
You can. No, Martin doesn't. This is just wood. But the wood is. Huh? Yeah, and it's. It's more. You can't bend it.
Speaker 3 00:55:01
So how high are you going with that?
Speaker 3 01:02:13
This guy, I've been doing some side work for. Whenever he can't find anything, he goes and buys another one. From the day he moved into his house, it looks like he's still moving in; everything's in boxes. This is five years ago. Organization. 
Speaker 2 01:02:35
Is a thing.
Speaker 3 01:02:38
He's got a lot of two of everything; maybe even more.
Speaker 3 01:03:59
And.
Speaker 1 01:09:43
Okay.
Speaker 3 01:11:36
So we're doing the stairs. This is the face here. We go ahead and see that through, top only. We do this. It makes sense to you, right?
Speaker 2 01:11:56
Yeah, even though that's not going to get floated, but yeah, it makes sense.
Speaker 2 01:12:07
So, if that's the case, you're going to end up coming this way a little bit around the thing. So you might want to just go down. Yeah, I think you're just going to end up hitting that corner a little bit. I think no matter what. Um. 
Speaker 2 01:12:37
You're gonna need to do the overlap no matter what. So. 
Speaker 2 01:12:59
Yeah, Probably what I would do is just take a a two inch section down.
Speaker 2 01:13:09
Okay. Yeah. Go vertical. Exactly. Okay.
Speaker 2 01:13:29
Um, And then the pipe penetration, let's stay out of them because they don't all have more than two thousand. Okay. Okay.
Speaker 2 01:34:40
So what question am I going to ask? Uh. What's That?
Speaker 3 01:34:51
We have one. Are we going to take it and tap it and spray it? Apply it. By taking like this, it's not really giving us air. I. 
Speaker 2 01:35:09
Think what. Probably if it was, it was me. You know. He has the mill gauge. Right? He rolls it out. You know, I mean we did all of Penicin. We did a whole pass on Penicin in like a couple hours. You know, in a couple hours, like the whole.
Speaker 2 01:35:40
All the walls. You know, and with three guys, one and the sprayer just keep going. Yeah. Right? And then you got a roller, and then you can come back later and you can check for stuff. Um, but I mean the first but the guy rolling it is checking, you know? The guy spraying keeps going.
Speaker 2 01:36:19
Um. You know, but I would say like like this kind of stuff right here, this is more of a spring. You look right. Maybe what you can exactly so you can you pass this way and then pass back this way, right? And. So maybe you go lighter on the actual spray when going back over to touch up there. Right, so it's more of the spray pattern. What we want to do is we want to get the, The sprayer to get everything. Right? Right. So, so'cause if we if we try to focus on, you know, it, You know, actually brushing into each section. We we take away that point of the sprayer.
Speaker 3 01:37:15
Right okay. Right? The point of the sprayer is to, When the sprayer is spraying, it only sprays. I don't think there's a way to let off the trigger. There's a way to adjust the spray by the airflow.
Speaker 2 01:37:28
You can adjust the airflow. You can adjust t here is an you can change the nozzle size, right? T here is that like rotating deal in there, right? Okay.
Speaker 2 01:37:47
So, what's our pressure at? Do we know on the compressor? So more air equals finer. Okay, which is fine.
Speaker 3 01:38:08
I had the low I had on the gun, I had the airflow a little low, so it wouldn't spray so far and get all crazy.
Speaker 3 01:38:17
In a tight area.
Speaker 2 01:38:22
But what I want is like the guy here should be touching, right? Right,'cause that's where it is. So, you can see like we've got all these globs and whatnot and I realize, it's almost like it's too much. Right, right.
Speaker 3 01:38:37
So we're not fighting, we're working. Right, right, right, right. So with the mill gates now when we check it.
Speaker 2 01:38:51
So It should be touching the bottom of here, right?
Speaker 3 01:39:15
And not cheating it and putting it in a pot right. 
Speaker 2 01:39:18
Right I mean, it's if they're in some areas, right? And it's not on on others. So where or not he can come back and right right where you can like just real quick, give it a go and say, oh yeah, it's good there. All right, as I come here now, all right now he's wiping it off.
Speaker 2 01:39:46
You know. Um. But, what I'm, what I'm hoping for is that we can. You know, I think we're creating if if we don't do this spray, right, then you end up working it all in. Right make up because spray with the brush and the roller because the idea is, you know.
Speaker 2 01:40:19
Yeah, the idea is that the spray right, the spray's supposed to do the job of it. You know, the roller's going to spread it out a little bit. But honestly, If you sprayed it all and you didn't roll it, and then you came over here. You know It would be fine, like uh thickness wise? And if it was thickness wise, if it was fine, then there's no need a roller Right right? To me the roller.
Speaker 2 01:40:52
Evening it out. Right. Oh, okay, okay. So like you said, so is this ready to go for uh? No no no. Let's pour it in. Let me let me spray it. Um what what pressure did you say? What is that 160 or not? Um. 
Speaker 3 01:41:18
One of the we wanted to instead of using the manual. 
Speaker 3 01:41:23
So it's going to always turn on, stay at that constant 90.
Speaker 2 01:41:27
Well, the 160 is going to be actually harder than 60, right? You're going to need all your air and it's going to go low and it's going to start running. Right? So let's. 
Speaker 1 01:41:41
Do that first.
Speaker 3 01:41:55
I Thought it wouldn't be hazardous to the person, but maybe on the hopper itself.
Speaker 2 01:42:21
But What this will do is it'll keep you from ever going. 
Speaker 2 01:42:25
So, Really, what we should be doing also is we're like this is this is where the uh that guy we're going to come in and step on the area that we're going to that. We just cleaned. That's where that guy comes in, right? We step in that real quick so it doesn't bring dirt into the pool. The pool or what we're going to be working on, right? Um okay. So. 
Speaker 2 01:43:17
Let's Put it where it needs to go. So, were you? Oh, yeah. I was going to put a little water in and just rinse it out a little bit too.
Speaker 3 01:43:26
I think we're alright.
Speaker 3 01:43:52
Turn Off the water.
Speaker 1 01:44:34
I need more pressure.
Speaker 2 01:45:03
What's that? I'd love for these leaks to go away. So, let's finish this and we can work on that later.
Speaker 1 01:45:33
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 01:46:15
I'm Only the one that you know found it. Help them figure it all out.
Speaker 1 01:46:46
You can use the air to kind of push it in.
Speaker 2 01:48:08
So, why don't you hit it real quick and see, you know, where it's at. Hear me? Yeah, like with the gauge. You mean with the gauge? Yeah. Oh okay, I thought you meant with the roller.
Speaker 1 01:48:49
That's where it's supposed to be,
Speaker 2 01:48:50
Right? It looks like a tie, right? Yeah, so you got to spread it off. So we want to spread that out. But don't don't pull from the area and make it. I mean, you're you're with the roller is going to spread it. The brush is just going to I mean, then they'll spread it, but the same, you know, so I want more even.
Speaker 2 01:49:20
And maybe that is too much, right? So, at which point. So, now that I've done that. Now let's take it again, right? See where we're at. So we got it. We're good.
Speaker 3 01:49:55
I was always thinking that the some of those spots, it's gonna puddle right there. And you're gonna get too thick right there in the puddle. So I'd probably always use a brush instead of just evening it out to get it out of the puddle. I think it'll probably be easier if we use like the air on there, no?
Speaker 2 01:50:12
Yeah and and look if you know, there's some level of that where you're I think you're gonna find that. I don't want it to puddle necessarily. I think that's a good thought Brandon. Um, but if I go. By the way, it's easy for me to come in here and just kind of go, "Yeah, do it like this," guys. Not consider everything. But what I want to make sure of is that we're. You know, it seems like we keep on going back to these brushes and it's like. It's not how you know I want to do it right so.
Speaker 2 01:50:54
Like if you hit it again with the. No, where's that gauge? So every time we do a pass on here, we should. We should be checking it. It's got to hit both ends there. Right, so we're hitting it so we're good there. Yeah. Um let me wipe that.
Speaker 2 01:51:24
You know, but yeah, I mean if you want to use. You know the air for more like getting it out of the auto line and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 01:51:49
Yeah. That even works better than the. The brush.
Speaker 1 01:51:54
Right. I. 
Speaker 2 01:52:19
Think we're really limiting ourselves. Check it, check it before we do that. We're really limiting ourselves by trying to put a brush on everything. Even. 
Speaker 3 01:52:28
For use it like yeah,
Speaker 2 01:52:30
Because I would. 
Speaker 3 01:52:31
Sprayer from all angles when we.
Speaker 2 01:52:33
I'd rather spray it and come back and check it later and go, do I see any white? Okay, how do we look on here? We can probably refine this guy. I'll bet you if you do this lower, you have to loosen that screw. I think on the or I'll let you guys do it. But if you go finer here, it'll work out here finer as well. You know,
Speaker 3 01:53:12
But make the tool work for you. You know, probably get more on your hand from using a rag than okay.
Speaker 3 01:53:23
Turn it down. But we should be flying.
Speaker 2 01:53:26
I would, I would rather fly and and then get our second pass and then come back tomorrow and go. Where did we miss? Then for this particular thing. And I'm exaggerating. Right, right, right, right. We don't want to miss anything but I feel like we're we're okay, of course. We're i'd rather patch and fly and patch later than, You know, I think it's very important that we get the thickness out. Okay.
Speaker 3 01:53:55
I was always hitting all the angles, you know, I was always applying more, and it always seemed like there was too much going back and getting all the angles. So if it can be adjusted with the air airflow.
Speaker 2 01:54:07
And, you saw me like I'd spray some and then I just hold the air there, right? Let off and let that push it in. You know. Um. Okay. I think that's the way to go. I mean, look, we haven't done really any. Maybe right there a little bit, but it's I got almost everywhere. You know.
Speaker 2 01:54:45
But I also think you bring up a good point Brandon about about the puddles. And so if we you know. You see it doing that, we can blow it all out too.
Speaker 2 01:55:13
It's Pissed off when we start making noise. Like. When you get a BMW or an Audi, going manual. That's gonna uh. Yeah, no when I was 21. When I was 21, I got a BMW 328. Big kiss.
Speaker 2 01:55:44
Yeah But it's not the same. I need to feel it. You need the clutch, you need the feeling. Imagine coming into like one of the mountains, like going to Big Bear, and you downshift, you know? You come around a corner in second gear and it's a *whomp* and it. So that uh. If you downshift it'll slow the car down. So you slow down coming into it when you hit that turn. And when you're in the lower gears it'll pick up faster, right?
Speaker 2 01:56:17
You hit the accelerator and it pulls you through the turn. No, it's just it's using this kind of considerable force. Cause people think you want to slow down in a turn, you actually want to speed up. You want to slow down coming into a turn. That's, why? In like NASCAR, they come out wide, and they can come in sharp, right? So they come out wide and then they want to go in sharp and And then they hit the accelerator, pull themselves out of it. You know. But you. Yeah, especially like with front-wheel drive cars. So 'cause you're not gonna drift with a with a front-wheel drive car. You gotta use the e-brake to do that. You know, I mean you you don't get me wrong, it's possible but all the weight's in the front and pulling from the front. So is it just one of those. 
Speaker 2 01:57:18
It's my favorite. I don't I don't like, I don't like automatic. But I mean my truck is automatic but they don't make it. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2 01:57:51
So when you're sitting here, I want your question to be, how can I jump in on it? Right? How can you learn from this and do it? Can I do this right next to you? Right. Can you do that and I'll catch you up with the, you know. No no no. What I mean is like, can he like get you in place and maybe these are the final touches. Like. What can you take on as you're watching him? What can you take on from him? Oh, that part looks easy. Let me do that. You move on right or let me start you off here and you fix it right? And so anytime you're sitting right and sometimes he can't get around it, but anytime you're sitting that's an opportunity.
Speaker 1 01:59:28
Which one?
Speaker 2 02:00:11
But, is it a because there's it's the M's right you got so you got the. You have the three series so. What is it three twenty one, three, twenty five, three, twenty eight, right or then the five, that's the three series, no. Yeah okay. Yeah yeah. That that was the one that I had. Yeah two thousand I think it was a. 
Speaker 2 02:00:41
When I was twenty one, so it was two thousand twenty one, I bought a uh nineteen or twenty. I don't remember. Yeah, three twenty eight. Oh yeah, I had a we went to a, you know, we used to go to the clubs in that college, right? So all the soccer players would go to the clubs, and we're walking out. And one of my friends had a BMW because his dad was rich, so we walk out.
Speaker 2 02:01:12
He walks up to this girl, says, "Hey, we're gonna go to a party. You want to come with me?" And she's like, "No." Right? So, then we go and get in the BMW, and he drives up to her, and he says, "Hey, you sure you don't wanna come?" And she gets it. She goes, "Okay." So she gets in but we didn't have any room. So she sat on the lap of my my other friend. And we drove to the end of the parking lot parking lot. 
Speaker 2 02:01:43
Hey, give me a kiss. And she's like, "What are you talking about? I don't even know you." He's like, "Get out of my car. You didn't know me. You didn't want anything to do with me until you saw the BMW."
Speaker 2 02:02:38
Feel free to just like push it in there. And then just look for that white, you see that right there? There you go. You feel like that? That means you get it, right? So feel free to just. Right there. See it? Get me, Brandon. Yeah, I know. So you can see like right there, So if you like point it in there a little bit, and then okay or that's where like we'll hit it later. But. So what I used to do is like we do this, and then I come behind you guys like the next day and I just stare at the wall. And I look for white. And I just kind of like. Are these marks? Come by.
Speaker 2 02:03:41
And your primary job is just smooth it out, make sure that he's putting enough on it. You're checking with the mill gauge, so you've got the mill gauge, not him. And you're checking and you're going hey a little bit more here, hey a little bit too much whatever right? And then you're just gonna smooth it out like oh, here's a white spot here. Let me get the brush in there, right?
Speaker 2 02:04:24
And then I'd even say, we're blowing through the mixtures so fast. Why don't you have like two ready to go, you know? So you can just keep on going. Right and then there'll be a point like, you know what? I'm gonna get this far in front of him and then I'm gonna stop and help him. Yeah.
Speaker 3 02:04:42
But I wouldn't start to set up and uh.
Speaker 2 02:04:45
Need to help them. Right. Right, That's what I'm saying is. So there's a point where you stop and you go. Okay, let me come back and help them. Right, but I think it's better if you're doing, you know, ear to ear. Yeah, yeah. Right? We don't want him. Generally, we just we just like all you're doing is making sure it's good. You're doing all the application. Okay, okay. So pretty much like that? Yeah,
Speaker 3 02:05:12
I'll end with that. Right? You're quality control. And then they bring it. 
Speaker 1 02:05:18
In like two months or so. Um. I mean.
Speaker 2 02:05:21
Like you can tell like in the corners, There's a lot, right? Right. So so you're going hey, see? Hey on the birdie on the horizontal, it'll look like we need to back off a little bit. Right. Because he's gonna pull up and I'll I'll move it around. Okay. Right. So, you're his eyes essentially, and he's just like he's a crazy machine looking at this thing and brain seeing it. You're like, hey, hold up, hold up back up, you know, back real good.
Speaker 2 02:06:28
Yeah, you want to do that. And also like if this is coming out too thick, you can put water in here too. Right, you can add some in there. You can you can put six ounces per each kid or something like that?
Speaker 3 02:06:40
An eight- ounce should I. Is it eight? I think that's what I remember. I could be wrong. But also when it's really dry. Hopefully it's not alcohol. No.
Speaker 2 02:06:51
Hey Alex! So the whole point of us putting that.
Speaker 1 02:14:20
He could.
Speaker 1 02:15:58
I'm sorry.

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