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title: 01-28 Task: Sermon and Scripture References
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Speaker 1 00:00:15
I'll lose it. Who do I hear they both they're both there. Oh, he said. Gotcha hey, yeah, I keep on messing with Tasia on the name.
Speaker 2 00:00:47
My wife has got the kids to call them, Combo literally both names. It's crazy. I'm trying to convince him that his name is any book, I won't hear me. No. Yeah. But, do you have a way on that, uh, on school. 
Speaker 1 00:01:08
Ugh. I dropped your, uh, Solomon knows three guys in the NFL. Yesterday. I've been waiting for the right. And she goes, it's like, if I come out and just say it, randomly, you know, it's gonna be like, you know, it's gonna be like, oh, you're, you're just trying to throw more stuff in. So she was, she was talking to her friend last night and she put her on speakerphone.
Speaker 1 00:01:44
and she's like, cause her, her, her friend's, uh, son goes to Olu. That's Eric's best friend. Oh yeah. And she's like, you know what? I know this person. Yeah. Candace. Yeah. Okay. That's right. You've met her. So Candace is like, I know all these people, and I'm going to set Braden up to go on a tour of Olu with them. And Ashley Ann's like, you really think that you could pick somebody to convince Braden because of who they are?
Speaker 1 00:02:19
You know, she's like, oh, I know this. She's like, I know this. She said a name. I don't even know the name. So I walk in, she's like, I'm going to have so-and-so walk you through the campus and tell you what a good campus it is. And I'm like, who's that? And she's like, come on, man. He's a famous Dodger. And I'm like, oh, if you want to influence me, you're going to have to pick real sports. You know?
Speaker 1 00:02:56
She's like, you're hopeless. So anyway, so like in that, so now we're talking. and uh and I'm like oh by the way you know here's what Solomon told me and she's like, oh I wish I wish you would have told me that's kind of big you know and I was like you know because I've been holding on to that one for a while are you guys gonna do a tour both schools oh yeah we've already so we did the family interview yesterday um what's that.
Speaker 1 00:03:31
it's basically where you know they'll pull they pull him aside and they like they start asking him questions like you know because I mean especially uh Servite you know Olu is uh is a no-cut school right so no what they don't cut, So, for soccer, right. 
Speaker 2 00:03:60
Oh, so everybody plays, or everybody's on the team, at least. 
Speaker 1 00:04:03
Everybody, yeah. So, I mean, they've got 40 kids on their soft team.
Speaker 2 00:04:07
Yeah, yeah, so they have a really big team.
Speaker 1 00:04:10
Right, but, you know, but from what I hear, it's, like, crazy unorganized, too, you know? So, but, you know, anyways, it's so, you know, so she asked, you know, it's like, hey, Servite's a cut school, like, you can get cut from this team, you know? What are you going to do if you don't make soccer? And he's like, because I don't, you know, I don't really go to school for soccer. I go to school to learn. She actually is like, she's like, did you guys prep him?
Speaker 1 00:04:41
It's like, no. It's like, he didn't even know that he was coming. We picked him up from school and took him straight here, and he's like, wait, what? So, she's like, oh, wow, you know? So. That's dope. Yeah, so I think. You know, I mean, he's doing really well, um, with all that, you know, he's, he's handling it maturely because he could have gone in there and just kind of like bombed it, you know. 
Speaker 2 00:05:10
Yeah. So hold on. He has to be accepted into the, uh, into both schools. Yeah. That just, that literally just crossed my mind. Right. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. So it's almost like being accepted into a college.
Speaker 1 00:05:26
Yeah. In a way. I mean, cause like Servite, especially Servite, like they, they, uh, and I didn't know this till yesterday, but they said, yeah, we intentionally don't, we won't take more than 800 kids. Um, because we, we, we don't want this place to get too crowded. We need, you know.
Speaker 2 00:05:44
That's really small. That's a small amount of kids.
Speaker 1 00:05:47
Right. So it might be per class. Well, I don't know. Each class, right? I don't know. I don't know, man. I should have asked that, you know? Yeah. Um, because I know that my graduating class, when I graduated, you know, was 700 and something.
Speaker 2 00:06:05
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 00:06:08
So, um, and the idea that it's only like 200, 200 kids per grade, not a lot.
Speaker 2 00:06:20
That'd be a really small school. Yeah, it's not a lot at all.
Speaker 1 00:06:23
So, but, uh, so it's still going. We're actually, you know, dude, yesterday was crazy because we're switching Maddie's school too.
Speaker 3 00:06:32
Yeah? Why. 
Speaker 1 00:06:33
Because I don't think that, um, you know, you know what, what Maddie's school is, right? Like it's supposed to help him with, with his disability. Um, man, I keep on choosing the wrong street to turn left at. Um. so but it's it's like so easy now so if he doesn't turn in his homework it's like no big deal you know and so i don't think they're pushing him enough and uh the way i explained it to maddie.
Speaker 1 00:07:06
yesterday was it's like how often do you see mommy and i agreeing you know on big things right away, you know and it's like you don't it's like yeah so when both of us think the same thing it's time. right so we i mean yesterday was like we interviewed with we interviewed with both.
Speaker 1 00:07:36
two schools that she wanted to do one of them i didn't want which was the christian which was like the it was it was like the the churchy church school and then the other one's a christian school but one of them candace's kids go to and the other one, It was like, all of the, you know, there's the rich church down the street from us, and they have a school, and I'm like, I don't want to go, but I'm not going to say anything, because, you know, and I'm telling you, man, they were, as soon as Ashley Ann said that he had a learning disability, they were like, well, we don't even know if we want you, you know, I mean, they didn't say that, but they said it, you know.
Speaker 1 00:08:21
That's how they were saying it, yeah. She was so mad. She's like, why aren't you more upset? Like, I would figure this would piss you off even more, you know, and I'm like, why? They did exactly what I expected them to do, you know? Yeah, yeah. You know, it's this.
Speaker 2 00:08:39
That's sad, with the state of churches going on.
Speaker 1 00:08:43
Yeah, well, I mean, it's just, well, some of them, I should say, you know, it's like, it's like, it's who they are. It's like, we hope that you're cool enough to be part of our club. You know, we really would love to see you here, if you're cool enough. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:08:60
So you have a group of cool people.
Speaker 1 00:09:02
And she's like, and Ashley Ann has a hard time, because, like, we're walking through the campus, and we're seeing all these different people, like, that we know. It's like, hey, hey, and so, you know, she has a hard time with that kind of stuff, too. Where it's just, like, I think she goes, like, well, wait a minute, why are we different than them? You know, how dare you? Um, so.
Speaker 1 00:09:34
That's crazy, though. Um, so, I mean, but I'll tell you what, you know, the school now, so we went to this other one that we went to yesterday, and we really like them. And tuition per year is eight grand a year. is that enough i pay 40 currently for just maddie for just maddie no way yeah so what was that school.
Speaker 2 00:10:10
like really like sound at the beginning or something or what what was it about that school.
Speaker 1 00:10:16
that was just like yeah we have to um two things um it wasn't as much when we first started oh okay that makes sense too um number two ashley ann felt like um ashley and felt, Because Ashley-Anne had such a bad experience growing up with her parents taking her to school to try to find the perfect school that could help her.
Speaker 1 00:10:55
Like, she literally, you can watch her have a traumatic reaction just considering change, you know. I see. And so, a lot of it was like, I'll do whatever I can, you know, I'll do whatever she wants and I'll do whatever he needs, you know, in this area.
Speaker 2 00:11:28
That's so crazy. So, that like takes a big monkey off the back, no. 
Speaker 1 00:11:31
Well, I'm like, can he start next month? For real. so yeah because if i do that and honestly like i'm part of me is like can we switch ben too, you know where's ben going ben's going to fairmont you know how much is that school, that school is two grand a month you know so 24. so yeah i would say you know right um.
Speaker 1 00:12:07
but i even just kind of hinted at at uh maddie starting next month today when she's like yeah you know the only she you know because she's like oh i talked to you know maddie's best friend's mom today because it was like that was the big deal like maddie's like hey you know all i care about is rowan right and uh it's like well dude you can still hang out and everything but it's like yeah we better talk to their parents too just in case yeah and the mom was like today you know.
Speaker 1 00:12:39
was like actually the only reason we don't like the school either we're gonna leave too the only reason why we've been staying is because of maddie you know wow right, and so she's like yeah and ashland's like yeah she was saying like we should you know you should leave next month and uh you know and so i'm like well actually she's like but i don't feel right about that and i'm like well actually i was thinking that you know seeing if that i was wondering if that was a possibility is what i said yeah you know i've been thinking about that.
Speaker 1 00:13:11
and she just started going into panic mode and i'm like never mind never mind just kidding, well well when is like the semester finished um in may um so you know may early june something like that but uh but so it is it's a little it's a little wild a little while away, yeah and you know the fact of the matter is and here's kind of where I'm at it's like we're spending more than we're bringing in so she's like why just don't.
Speaker 1 00:13:45
feel right about that and I'm like honestly like your feelings I've been, really good about your feelings lately but you know you've been fighting a good fight so well I mean this whole time you know things just kept on coming where it was just like I was like hey you know we're gonna run out of money at this point and then it's like I get my tax refund it's like here's 20 grand more.
Speaker 1 00:14:20
and it's like okay you know this isn't this isn't wise but maybe I'll you know maybe Lord just kind of pushing me through and I'll get another job but you know. i'm trying maybe this is a good you know segue but it's like i'm trying to do this without. my wife thinking i'm the bad guy like i don't know how to get her to understand like we can't just.
Speaker 1 00:14:52
keep doing things because this makes us feel good you know yeah yeah and you know but i just don't know how to and so part of me is like letting something scramble because i need opportunities for her to go to her for her to think like you know yeah we need to make a change you know without. You know, the problem is, is that in the beginning, I was just like, hey, here's what we're going to do.
Speaker 1 00:15:24
I don't really care what you think, you know.
Speaker 2 00:15:27
Yeah, then there's that riff.
Speaker 1 00:15:29
Right. And so now I've got to endure some suffering in order to make her feel loved, you know. So.
Speaker 2 00:15:39
No, I know exactly what you mean. Well, what if it's just one of those things where, you know, you just make it her idea, just like, you know, she would make it yours and maybe some situations where she just lets you win. Yeah. Or if it's her idea to, you know.
Speaker 1 00:15:55
No, that's.
Speaker 2 00:15:56
To make you move earlier.
Speaker 1 00:15:58
That is my plan. I think what I'm going to end up doing is kind of putting a budget in front of her and saying, like.
Speaker 2 00:16:05
I was literally about to say that. Maybe. You're so smart.
Speaker 1 00:16:08
Well, I've done it umpteen times. I can't tell you, like, when we first got married, you know, it was like, you tell me, like, here's my budget. right here's how i know how to make the money work um you tell me how to change it and then she'd go well i can live like this and this and then it would just be like i'm like hey how come we're not there right like you know and she's like well i i don't you know.
Speaker 1 00:16:41
i don't know how we can do this like this is just you know it's just like come on you know so that's.
Speaker 2 00:16:49
real i you know i tell her like she always thinks i'm like so cheap and stuff but i tell her all the time like once once you get a certain lifestyle there's no going back from that like right people just can't revert back to the old life that they used to live so i would rather eat you very slowly and let you get adjusted then just jump into a whole lifestyle that you could never go back to me understand i was just like oh there's no way right so i mean that kind of sounds like.
Speaker 2 00:17:20
Um, Ashley and a little bit where she was like, I liked the way our lifestyle is and I kind of want to keep it this way.
Speaker 1 00:17:29
Well, I don't even think that she has, like, I think if you asked her, she would tell you that she's very conscious of her spending, you know, but it's like, like she brought home some ribeyes the other day and she's like, babe, I saved us so much money when I got this. And I'm like, I don't care what I didn't say this. Right. I said it in my head, but it's like, I don't care how much money you got off of that.
Speaker 1 00:18:01
Right. Like what, what the discount percent was.
Speaker 2 00:18:04
I already know what you're going to say. It sounds like, it sounds like she, uh, uh, she raised Tasia.
Speaker 1 00:18:09
Well, she did raise Tasia and you know, Tasia was cheap, you know, when she came to us and she's not cheap anymore. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 00:18:21
People are like, oh my, this is only a million dollars. Like, what do you mean only? How do you take the only out of everything you say in front of a place? Yeah, she does that all the time where she's like, oh, this was 50% off. It's like, that's 50% that you didn't even have to pay in the first place. It's not, everything on sale, you don't have to buy everything on sale.
Speaker 1 00:18:44
Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:18:44
It doesn't have to be bought in the first place.
Speaker 1 00:18:46
Well, it's like, here, I'll give you a funny story. Uh, so my sister turned 16, dad gets her car, buys the insurance and says, okay, you're going to have to earn this though, right? So you're going to start taking the boys to soccer practice, picking them up from school, and you're going to start doing the groceries. And so, and here's a credit card that you can pay for your gas and you can pay for the groceries and stuff like that, right? And so she's bringing in groceries one day and he's like, now, mind you, here's, this also says something about the times, right?
Speaker 1 00:19:22
Because this is what, 30 years ago almost? He goes, he's like so beside himself. How do you spend $300 on groceries? And my sister was like daddy's little princess, right? And so she always talked back to him and, you know, and was always offended. And she, and I'm just like literally just sitting there watching, right?
Speaker 1 00:19:55
Cause this, he's never met her, you know? So he's like, so she's like, dad, you know what? You don't even understand. Like I was very vigilant about how I went about this. you know and she's and so he's like pulling out he's still pulling stuff out of like the grocery bags like trying to figure out like he's like she's like like those that juice right there i saved you 30 on that that's 30 off dad i saved you and he goes honey we don't drink.
Speaker 1 00:20:34
this she's like what's that supposed to mean and he goes you don't save me stuff if you buy extra and we don't drink this so you bought extra and she's like oh i can't believe you would say that and she like storms off.
Speaker 2 00:20:60
and it's like she probably thought she has the best idea ever watching right you you need to.
Speaker 1 00:21:04
know like next time i'm gonna go there and i'm gonna show him like everything that i would have spent and how much i didn't you know how much i saved and it's like but at the end of the day, it's like and i'm just making this up right you went there and if your normal spend is two hundred dollars and you spent three hundred dollars ah you didn't save money right so it's.
Speaker 2 00:21:33
like what is the end result not it not you know anyways and it's also funny how you say three hundred dollars in groceries three hundred dollars now gets you like nothing right like.
Speaker 1 00:21:44
what's worth the food yeah that's that's what i was saying is it said and this is gonna be funny.
Speaker 2 00:21:48
because i'm saying three hundred dollars you know so yeah like then probably like seven hundred eight hundred dollars now right right.
Speaker 1 00:21:57
you, so but i was thinking about it too you know i i a minute ago i took all the uh, all the credit you know or or blamed it all on ashley ann but then i was thinking it's like no i remember being real mad at carissa you know when tasia came left and lived with us she didn't even have underwear she was like wearing the same pair over and over again and chris was always getting new clothes and knew this and they you know i was so pissed off you know so you said credit.
Speaker 1 00:22:33
what are you talking about no carissa oh chris or chris yeah so carissa would just rehearse it would you know leave them with no food and yeah that's terrible yeah um my, mom used to always talk about parents like that i shouldn't take shots but you know it's okay.
Speaker 2 00:22:57
I shot it every now and then. It's okay. I always, because sometimes people all like food, we, talk probably too much shit, and I always tell her, I always tell her, like, I wonder if they're talking about us like this. And then she's like, oh yeah, for sure, for sure. We just make ourselves feel better about that.
Speaker 1 00:23:18
Well, I will say, one thing that always keeps me from talking too much on her is, and you guys probably don't know any of this, so, but, I mean, that girl went through some stuff that no, kid should ever go through, you know. 
Speaker 2 00:23:36
Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 00:23:38
So, you know, that does. warp people's, abilities to you know, to handle things. Yeah, no, for sure. What's new with you. 
Speaker 2 00:23:51
The reasons why I make different life decisions, just like, uh, I actually went through what she went through when she was a kid, dropped her from school to school, she goes on with that for Maddie, so it warps you in on different decisions, and it might cost you, but sometimes it doesn't even matter.
Speaker 1 00:24:09
Right, right. So, you know, and that's what my retirement years are for, to make up all the money that I didn't save.
Speaker 2 00:24:24
I'm going to do this forever, forever working.
Speaker 1 00:24:26
Dude, you know what's funny is here I am five years away from it, right? I used to have a plan. My plan was that, you know, at 50, I will have set enough aside and done enough things to where I can tell any boss at any time, get screwed, I'm out the door, right? I don't need to work anymore. i was there and then i did i broke one rule one time you know and uh my own rules meaning and.
Speaker 1 00:25:11
there you go absolutely one hell of a comeback story well i mean look if the lord has taught me so much with that um that i don't even need to come back in all honesty i don't think i would have chosen differently you know um i think i'm up much more i still got a lot of work to do but i've got i'm a much more whole person it's not it's not so much about me yeah i see what you're.
Speaker 2 00:25:47
saying like it's you took a step back yeah well yeah i think coming out the wilderness type of deal.
Speaker 1 00:25:54
Yeah. And, um, I'm still trying to figure out what it looks like, you know, uh, let's put it this way. Yesterday was the first day that I told somebody I wasn't in construction and didn't feel like sheepish about it. You know, like that's less than me. You know what I mean? So I don't know. I mean, you know, I, I'm, I'm starting to care less. I think about what people think about me, you know, or not put value in it. Even though like before it would be like, I didn't ever really.
Speaker 1 00:26:28
care what people thought about me in the sense of I had to put them down first. It's like, well, who are you? You know, or whatever. It's like, look what I've done versus what you've done, bro. It's like, I had to call out. Sometimes I'll, I know, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 00:26:46
Cause sometimes I get that feeling when, um, some random person's like asking me like, why aren't you playing like and they you know they have more tabs than just that and it's just like, the like i'm here and you're waiting to watch so like that sometimes that that would take me yeah i'm like you know because because they they just want to be excited for me they don't want to they're not trying to put me down and like that but well and and they might be too.
Speaker 2 00:27:16
right but sometimes that's why i get the feeling like they are i'm like like i just tell myself that they're not if they're not trying to do that like they just want to be excited for you but.
Speaker 1 00:27:27
either way if you look at it like ultimately you have to convince yourself not to be offended right and you because because there's a there's an aspect of pride there that says well i must be i, must be respected right and oh they're not trying to disrespect me so i don't need to do that right, and, I'm trying to figure out, because look, if God really is in control of everything, right?
Speaker 1 00:28:02
Should the, you know, if he's really in control of everything, then we're right where he wants us to be, right? Now, did we make every decision right? Could we have done better? Yeah. Could he have stopped us? Yes. You know, could he have elevated us? Yes. But, you know, at the same time, Solomon, if you were 5'8", you know, you know, it wouldn't have really mattered.
Speaker 1 00:28:33
You would not be where you are. You know what I mean? Like, you know, and so there's some things that are like the janitor, right? Like, should he feel bad about his life? You know, I always looked at, there's this guy, Roy, that worked for my dad. i grew up looking up to him and then i passed him and i could not understand it took me years, to even accept that this was okay um where this man got to a position that was not even that high.
Speaker 1 00:29:15
but high for him and decided i don't want to ever do anything else other than i don't want to go any higher and and it's like you know my outlook at the time was like he should be ashamed you know like i can't believe now you you look at my upbringing right a guy who just pulled himself up you know a bunch of people pulled themselves up by their bootstraps you know and it's just like that i can do that too that's how i was trained you know that's how i was raised there's something.
Speaker 1 00:29:48
there. But we've also met, we've also met other people where you're just like, Hey man, you know, some people got 10 elevators in their brain. Other people just have two, you know, and you know, and if that guy, if you've got 10 elevators and you stay on floor eight, who's doing a better job if he's got two floors, right? And you stay on floor, you know what I mean? You got 10 floors and you stay on, right.
Speaker 1 00:30:20
And you stay on eight and he's got two and he stays on two, right? Who's doing a better job with what they've been given, you know? So I don't know, you know, but how do we just kind of go, you know what, I'm, you might be dealing with something and, and so you're coming at me and that's okay, you know? Um, but. The Lord has placed a certain amount of value in me, and I'm perfectly content with that.
Speaker 1 00:30:57
So I don't find my value in what you think of me. I find my value in what he thinks of me. Exactly. But I'm a long way away from that. I'm better than I used to be.
Speaker 2 00:31:09
I hope we get the same one this time.
Speaker 1 00:31:14
Gender roles, right. 
Speaker 2 00:31:19
Great, though.
Speaker 1 00:31:20
What'd you do. 
Speaker 2 00:31:22
No, I did not. Dude, I've even got questions. I don't want to meet this friggin' partner. If I go through to that track, well, at least I hope, at least I hope I get that one.
Speaker 1 00:31:51
uh separate dude you like skip four no that's not true no uh one two no you just give two you're just one so so the marriage is completion um so we have so it goes one marriage has completion one flesh then gender roles part one gender roles part two and then but uh tell me about supper of the lamb gender roles you have to do so we we don't.
Speaker 1 00:32:30
you you go out here because it's it's uh he he turns the way that we look at at uh husband and wife on his hand he said he turns the way that way he turns the way that uh, you know he turns the the way that the western culture the modern western culture looks at husbands and wives and he turns it on their head on its head yeah you know we've only been doing like this like this for the last 150 years so meaning that the man goes out and the woman.
Speaker 1 00:33:05
stays home yeah so he turned that on his head uh keller's is like dude says we basically we've only been doing that for the last 150 years you won't find that in the bible oh really yeah so how is it dude um well let me ask you this do you want you you should definitely listen to that one.
Speaker 1 00:33:38
what do you want to talk about. right now. Do you want to talk about that? Do you want to talk about the others. 
Speaker 2 00:33:45
Let's talk about what I wrote down. Yeah, I'll listen to it and then I guess we'll backtrack. I wrote down a few things that I thought was... The first thing that kind of mentioned that I wrote down is when you get offended, when you feel offended.
Speaker 3 00:34:16
You there? Yeah, I know. You cut out for a second. It is a... Okay.
Speaker 2 00:34:37
So I wrote something down that makes no sense to me. There's something about when you're offended and the person who offends comes back and says, comes back to the table and essentially says, apologize, I didn't mean to offend you or hurt you. I don't understand what I was putting down there. There's like an admission to what you've done is actually like a form of repentance. And that was just down later on. It's like when you repent, you assume accountability. And from there, from assuming accountability, then you could actually fix the issue.
Speaker 2 00:35:27
When you repent, it puts you back in control of the circumstance because you start to take ownership and accountability. Yeah. So I thought that was pretty impactful. I've actually heard that. On like different like podcasts and stuff like that. But it's really cool to hear Keller put it in a biblical sense. When he says, when you repent, you're assuming that accountability. Which is dope because then you give yourself all the power back.
Speaker 2 00:35:59
He kind of made the analogy about, and I'm not sure if you remember from the time that you listened. But when he made the analogy about the dance, the sun. And the sun acts like, why did you leave us? And the dad, his first reaction or his first knee jerk reaction was to make excuses about how me and your mother had differences. And we had to part ways.
Speaker 2 00:36:32
And then the son goes, but why did you really leave us? And. the dad says because I really love this job more than I wanted to raise you and so then I left and so that was kind of powerful because once you're able to just be just completely honest it makes you more human than it does like trying to make excuses until then from there you can fix.
Speaker 1 00:36:59
them yeah yeah ironically I listened to a another sermon that he did this week where he used that analogy as well already okay cool so there's Ted Hanson and I forget the name of the movie but it's like a movie that my sister watched a billion times yeah well so why do you think.
Speaker 1 00:37:30
that's important for a relationship because I think that.
Speaker 2 00:37:39
So, if I'm constantly making excuses as to why I did something or why I didn't do something, like why I didn't get something accomplished, I think all of that kind of pushes everything to the side and I avoid responsibility instead of assuming it. And also, it would make my wife feel as if, like, if I hear my wife not straight up told her, like, hey, I'm wrong, I didn't mean to make you feel this way, or I'm wrong, I did this and I won't do it again, then now she feels comfort in that I will actually try to do what I said I wasn't going to do instead of giving excuses for it so I can do it again.
Speaker 2 00:38:36
I think it's, I think it's important for, it goes both ways for me to one, take accountability and then smooth forward and then give her comfort knowing that that's what I'm doing. So I think it works both ways now.
Speaker 1 00:38:50
Can I push harder. 
Speaker 2 00:38:52
Yeah, push harder.
Speaker 1 00:38:54
What was the difference between the first go that, that the dad gave and the second one. 
Speaker 2 00:39:08
The first go, he was trying to direct his responsibility away from himself. And then the second one, he assumed it.
Speaker 1 00:39:22
Yeah. And I want to say like a special flair in there that I think goes, you know, I'm sure you've heard, like, there's, there's, I think there's three types of apologies, right? And we've all heard the first one. I'm sorry if you were offended, right?
Speaker 1 00:39:52
Which is, which is like a non-apology, right. 
Speaker 3 00:39:55
You're a cop.
Speaker 1 00:39:56
Right? It's not really my fault. You were, you were offended, right? It's not something I did. It's something you did. But I'm sorry that that happened or that, that you felt that way. So there's no real accountability. And then there's the second one that says, I'm sorry that I offended you, right? And that one's saying, yeah, I did a thing, you know, and I, and I pushed on you and I crossed the line. I understand that. And I feel bad. And that's hopeful.
Speaker 1 00:40:26
Um, but I don't feel like those, you know, my mom used to say something that I never understood until I became a parent, but she used to say, sorry. Sorry means you'll never do it again. And that in and of itself isn't very, you know, deep. But if you follow it through to what needs to get there, like something has to change in order for you to never do it, right?
Speaker 1 00:40:57
So when you say, yeah, I'm sorry for offending you, that's good, right? Because you care about her feelings. But if you notice, like, when, because I think what he said was, I really like the power that this job gave me, right? And I was, I, you know, he kind of exposes himself at that point in time.
Speaker 1 00:41:28
He looked inside and found a weakness in him. He said, I was prioritizing the wrong thing and for something that really wasn't... as fulfilling as I thought it would be, right, and I can't believe that I chose this thing over such a such a small thing over such a big thing, right, I can't believe I chose power over my family and I think at that point in time what you're really doing is you're internalizing and you're going I'm being vulnerable with you and and I'm exposing my neck, right, like.
Speaker 1 00:42:03
you have the ability to cut right now. The kid could have flattened him and that's why the kid accepted because he was open, right, he exposed me to his home and I think that when we can go there especially. with our spouse, you know, Keller talks a lot about transparent, right, that's transparent, right, if you think.
Speaker 1 00:42:34
You know, where she can see right through you, right? Because you allowed her to.
Speaker 2 00:42:46
So, transparency is like a step for responsibility because you're more vulnerable.
Speaker 1 00:43:01
Yeah, well, I would say, so taking responsibility is one thing, right? And that's what's causing the engagement, right? But ultimately, you guys are partners, right? And so, you know, often I would tend to guess that when you offended her, you know, there was something going on there. It was a response to something or it was, you know, what emotion came through on your side.
Speaker 1 00:43:34
to, you know, to cause you to attack, right? And I think, like, the better she understands you, like, Ashley Ann's always understood what triggers me, right? So she would just basically step around those things. Like, I can't, oh, I can't ever joke with you because you always get mad. It's like, no, you actually pick topics that are like,
Speaker 1 00:44:06
that are the equivalent to punching me in the nuts, right? Something I'm actually very insecure about and you tug on it, you know? And she doesn't ever know, but she doesn't know that those are, you know, I've never, because I don't, I'm not weak. I don't, I have nothing to expose, right? Except, you know, except I wanted to put my hands through a wall when she said that, you know? And so... It's, meaning, as I started, like, being more open with stuff like that, right, she started understanding, as she started understanding me, two things happened.
Speaker 1 00:44:47
One, she appreciated the trust that I put in, because this is something that, like, I, right, like, I don't need you, you know, but she is me, and she's, she's, she's also, sometimes not so great at it, but, but she is also a guarder of my heart, right, and a perfect guard, and so, when we're being transparent, we're trusting them, and allowing them to see something that, you know, that, that, we're trusting them, not only in the knowledge of it, but also in the caring of it, you know, and the protection.
Speaker 1 00:45:33
And that's why girls are so tight, by the way. I mean, because they just bear it all, right. 
Speaker 2 00:45:43
He said, that's why they're so what? Because they could bear it all. 
Speaker 1 00:45:48
That's why they're so tight, right? That's what Patrick said. So they get so close because they're so open with each other, you know? And that's why girls become mean.
Speaker 2 00:45:58
Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay, that's why they become such good friends with girls, because they're so vulnerable about what their life is, you know? That's very true.
Speaker 1 00:46:08
So they understand each other better, you know. 
Speaker 2 00:46:14
No, that's very true. But he also... Go ahead. Oh, I guess this all coincides with the same thing, then, because the whole analogy about... um him throwing the shoes up against the wall when he walks into the closet yeah yeah and um, she's pissed at him for throwing shoes up against the wall and at first he's just like that was the.
Speaker 2 00:46:47
big deal the opposite was a big deal to her so he wrote that note just did not throw his shoes against the wall to remind himself but that didn't make him perfect necessarily it just, you know it showed to her that he's actively trying not to you know throw his shoes up against the wall now that meant more that i would say like that meant more to her rather over being, perfect and not doing anything they didn't actually be trying not to do it right yeah so uh oh so he.
Speaker 2 00:47:27
did i think this is the most important uh thing he mentioned or mentioned that he preached on was, They're saying the real marriage is with Jesus Christ and we cannot find perfection in our marriage because we are not perfect people. And that's kind of like where that whole she was against the wall thing started coming from. I think this is very true because when I'm liking areas, say I need like a push, like okay so this is the example I put on here.
Speaker 2 00:48:00
For myself, like I've been thinking about buying a house or whatever, you know this, and I'll talk to my wife about it and she's just like, yep, whatever you do, I'm with you, whatever. So I'm like, dang, that does not help because I need to have some type of direction on this way, that way, like what you're feeling or whatever. He's, you know, Tim Kelly, she's preaching and he's, he's saying that our spouses aren't perfect and we're truly married to Jesus Christ. And then I'm like, dang, that's true because I'm looking for my wife. You know, I might better have, like, what should I, you know, do? Like, give me some direction, but really I should be going to God. Like, what should I do? Give me some direction. I need to be my word more. I need to be more steadfast. I need to fast more for answers.
Speaker 2 00:49:09
Give me some direction rather than going to my wife for that. And I'm like, ah, this makes so much sense. And then, you know, it's two things. One, you need to, to be content in the Lord. That's one. And then two, know that our spouses aren't perfect. But the effort should be, like, good enough or should be the starting point. Those are the two points I'll put down.
Speaker 1 00:49:37
Dude, it's, like, really big that you got there. It's crazy because the idea is, like, oh, well, you know, the man is the head and the woman is the help, right? Not the help, that sounds bad, but the helper, right? And actually in this other, the one that I read, the general part one, he says,
Speaker 1 00:50:09
hey, helper is actually, like, a terribly translated word. We don't have a good, in English, for the Greek word helper, right? And so he goes on to say, like, hey, you know, I'm, if I help my son with his algebra, I can be his helper. But if I do it for him, I'm not helping him. And I can only help him with something that, you know, like, he's not going to come to me if he's in calculus.
Speaker 1 00:50:44
Because I only know algebra, right? So I can only help him with the things that I have that he doesn't, right? And so, anyway, so he goes on to say, like, which is what you're kind of starting to turn towards. In other words, yes, we have the head-body relationship with our wives, right? So you're the head, she's the body kind of the thing, right? But it's flipped with God, right? It's flipped with Jesus. So Jesus is the head, and you're the body, right?
Speaker 1 00:51:18
Yes. Now you're the submissive one. Now you're the, you know. you know you're the one that's that's going that that's attempting to help him with his goals.
Speaker 2 00:51:41
it's the same it's the same yeah it's the same relationship just like you said he's just flipped.
Speaker 1 00:51:48
right yeah there's nothing wrong with going to tasia on what do you think right, but at the same time you know ashland used to respond the same way you want to know when the last time she did that it was when i when i put the last of our money into the business, that was the last time she said whatever you think right but i mean but here i'm doing the same thing you're doing right like.
Speaker 2 00:52:24
She's good. I just wanted to hear, I just, I didn't really go to her to think, ask her what she was thinking. I just wanted her to say yes. Right. I just wanted to like, you know, it's a lot. I feel like it's a huge responsibility to, first of all, I mean, it's, it's a privilege just to have someone that's just go ahead because they trust your decisions. That's a really big responsibility to make those decisions, knowing that somebody is just blindly trusting you. Does that make sense. 
Speaker 1 00:53:00
It does. It absolutely. Yes, absolutely. You know, I felt like the biggest failure afterwards. But I think, you know, on another aspect, she's not helping you. And I'm not trying to call her out, but she's not helping you by doing that either. Right. 
Speaker 2 00:53:24
No, she's not. She's not looking at me. She's not. But this isn't about everything. This is about all the big decisions though. Oh no. That didn't get to see us.
Speaker 1 00:53:32
Yeah. No. It's amazing to me how similar Tayshia is to Ashlyann. Like you guys on, you know, your guys' like roles and Ashlyann's completely different now because we've gone through a lot of these things, right? And, uh, but you know, and you're right. You're right to, to, to see it and go, well, that's a big response.
Speaker 1 00:54:06
I can't, I can't afford to make decisions based on what she's going to say if she's just going to tell me what I want to hear or just say, Hey babe, I, I trust you. She's not putting in the work on her side. Right. And I'm not, I'm not hitting her, right? Like I'm just gonna, you know, but, but there's gotta be, you know, how does she come alongside of you in the ways that will actually make her better. Right. And so, um, I was going to ask you earlier on topic one, um, and this is, I'm not trying to, I'll just ask you, um, how would you say, how would you define.
Speaker 1 00:55:03
or what is your understanding of what a Christian is. 
Speaker 2 00:55:11
A Christian is someone who believes that Jesus died on the cross for our sins and he rose from the dead. does satan believe that well i guess so will satan be in heaven no but but interjection.
Speaker 1 00:55:36
sure do other really believe that as well other religions yeah i'm sure there are plenty of people, that say oh yeah i believe that too if that's what you're saying yeah i believe this i believe that.
Speaker 2 00:55:54
wouldn't they be considered wouldn't they be considered christian though because other like i know muslims don't believe that i know um um uh. like like buddhists don't believe that jews don't necessarily believe that right right so.
Speaker 1 00:56:18
It's kind of what I'm challenging you on right now. It's like, so, I think that's step one, right? Like, if you don't believe that at all, then you can't be a Christian. But I don't believe that's what makes you a Christian. Even though 80% of the world, 90% of the world is going to tell you that that's true. But the more you read your Bible, you'll find, you know, you're going to say,
Speaker 1 00:56:54
hey, you know, there's going to be a point where, you know, Jesus tells that parable, right? He said, well, Lord, didn't we do this for you? Didn't we do that for you? Didn't we do this for you? And he's going to say, depart from me. I never knew you, you know. There's going to be a lot of people saying, we're Christians. We've been Christians our whole lives, you know. So, and again, Satan was there, Satan watched him die, Satan watched him rise, right?
Speaker 1 00:57:25
Satan believes, you know, how many times did the demons go, you know, oh, Jesus, son of God, right? And Jesus goes, hey, be quiet, don't tell them who I am, right? So they all know, so why won't they be in heaven? Did you go in the closet again?
Speaker 1 00:58:04
You went all robotic.
Speaker 2 00:58:08
Okay, so I did it perfectly.
Speaker 3 00:58:32
It might be you.
Speaker 2 00:58:42
Hello. 
Speaker 1 00:58:43
Yeah, I'm here. Okay.
Speaker 2 00:58:45
It might be wherever you're driving.
Speaker 1 00:58:48
Oh, it might be me is what you were saying. Yeah, yeah. Maybe. Can you hear me okay now. 
Speaker 2 00:58:55
Yeah, I can hear you now. All right. So when you say they, were you referencing the people that were around Jesus during his time. 
Speaker 1 00:59:09
I'm referencing whoever, right? Whoever says Jesus died, you know, rose again, saved me from my sins, and yet when you look at their life... And it's always easy to go to Satan because everybody knows he won't be in heaven, right? When you look at his actions, they are, you know, against everything that Jesus, you know, stood for, right?
Speaker 1 00:59:45
In many ways, right? And so, you know, if we kind of said our prayer, we understand that Jesus is who he is. He died, rose again, sits at the right hand of the Father. You know, how am I any different? I mean, Satan believes all of those things. You know, how am I any different than, you know, Satan or, I mean, shoot, I can point to family.
Speaker 1 01:00:18
Where it's like, hey, there's nothing about their life. Yeah, they say they're Christians, but there's nothing about their life.
Speaker 3 01:00:23
It does say it's Christian.
Speaker 1 01:00:25
Right? Are they going to heaven too. 
Speaker 2 01:00:31
are they going to heaven you know yes so when you get to james you know what's crazy you don't know i know i know you're gonna make the points coming but you do you know what's crazy there's there's two types of christians there's the christians that believe they're going to heaven no matter what um you know jesus has already died for our sins there's nothing that like we can't this is this part is true that we can't necessarily earn like more of his more or less of.
Speaker 2 01:01:02
his love like he loves us he just wants us to come and be with him but that doesn't necessarily mean that we could just be lawless and uh just like send it up everywhere we go but you know let me.
Speaker 1 01:01:15
stop talking no you're okay um there if you'll notice you will never find in the bible a. a prayer that you said you will never there's you'll never find in the bible there's no magic switch there's no magic formula where all of a sudden i wasn't a christian and now.
Speaker 2 01:01:48
i am because i said a prayer i'm good now so how so it's mysterious you're right about where i go so look so when i was younger they still uh have us accept christ i mean they still do it now because they you know you accept christ and you acknowledge the things i just said and that's, pretty much it so what are you telling me now i'm telling you.
Speaker 1 01:02:23
that they did that to all of us that was that was our our parents and grandparents generation, You know, you had a guy that went around, Billy Graham, that went around and changed all of these people's lives. And he used to do these altar calls that he'd go, give your life to Christ now and come and accept him. And people would come down and they would do that. And, you know, and many of them, many of them, their lives were completely changed from that moment on.
Speaker 1 01:02:59
And many of them were changed for about a week, right? And, and so the church kind of jumped onto that and said, here's, we're going to, we're going to be Billy Graham. And so we're going to, we're going to get people to accept the Lord because that's what you need to do. You know, and we're going to use these nice little verses from Revelation. It says he's knocking at the door of your heart, and just all you have to do is open it up and let him in.
Speaker 1 01:03:34
And that's not what Jesus says, you know. What happened with Judas, right? Judas believed Jesus, right? Judas was with him. Why'd he sell him out, you know? Is he going to be in heaven? No, because he killed himself. Oh, another thing it doesn't say in the Bible. Um, the, if you go here, let me pull this up real quick.
Speaker 1 01:04:09
John, so James, I started thinking about this kind of stuff when I read James. And you say, it says something like, and Jesus references it, but it basically says you will know. people that you will know the heart of a person based on their actions and we know the action you don't earn it right you said it yourself um but it's referenced so basically saying a christian a true you know somebody that that has the holy spirit in their life is is you know.
Speaker 1 01:04:50
will produce fruit will produce good works a good heart means good action right um 336 so. you've heard john 316 right yes. Okay, John 3.16 is your typical, you know, God loves the world and tried to save everybody from eternal life, or from eternal damnation, right?
Speaker 1 01:05:25
So you go down to the end of that chapter, and it says, Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life. Whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.
Speaker 2 01:05:42
Say it again.
Speaker 1 01:05:44
Whoever believes...
Speaker 2 01:05:45
John 3.16, this is it. 
Speaker 1 01:05:47
So John 3.16 is your typical, here, John 3.16 is for God to love the world that he gave his only son, whoever believes in him, should have eternal life. So now go down to John 3.36.
Speaker 2 01:06:03
36, okay. Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, okay? whoever does not obey the son shall not see life but the wrath of god remains on him those are two.
Speaker 1 01:06:24
different things believing and obeying are two different things right right well yes and no keep.
Speaker 2 01:06:37
going could you believe that god is real and live lawlessly and still go to heaven or is it the opposite or is one more important than the other is obeying more important than believing so here's.
Speaker 1 01:06:60
where i would go so again we can't earn it right we've made we've made that very very clear yes right not mean you but in general everybody's made it very very clear, Right. And so, but what he is, he does seem to be saying here, if you don't obey him, you don't get it. Right. And the wrath of God remains on you.
Speaker 2 01:07:28
Oh, my goodness. This is so confusing, though.
Speaker 1 01:07:32
So, and this is where. Well, what you'll find is as you're reading the Bible, it's going to be, you're going to accept it in layers. There's stuff you're going to go, I've read this 52 times. I've never seen this in here. And here it is staring me in the face. So, Romans, I'm just going to fly by here. And if you want me to give you references later, I'll happily do it. But I don't want to keep you forever.
Speaker 1 01:08:04
Romans says. Um, Abraham believed God and it was credited to him as righteousness, right? And what did Abraham do? God made a covenant with Abraham. He said, hey, go that way and I'm going to give you a son. And Abraham just said, yeah, yeah, boss, whatever you tell me to do, I'll do because you are who you are, right? And so, and so what did Abraham do?
Speaker 1 01:08:44
Abraham, right? Now, by the way, Abraham came from, hey dude, Maddie just joined us. Um, okay. Abraham came from a time where there were gods galore, right? Back in those days, if you were to research the history and whatnot, you, they'd had gods galore and. When God sought out Abraham and said, I am the God, Abraham said, I believe you.
Speaker 1 01:09:18
And since you're that guy, I'll do whatever you tell me to do. And along the way, he made some mistakes. But all in all, right, he's held as like the father of the religion, right? Further on in Romans, Paul goes on to say, okay, so that's how Abraham achieved righteousness, right? And then he goes on to say, well, so now, you know, Jesus came and he paid the penalty for sin, right?
Speaker 1 01:09:52
So when God, being just, had to punish those people that, you know, weren't perfect, because let's face it, nobody's perfect, right? Jesus paid the penalty. Because you want a God that actually is just. So it's not like where we let our kids go or whatever. A perfect dad would always give the appropriate consequence.
Speaker 1 01:10:26
Whereas sometimes we're just like, I'm going to let him off on this one. But we're not just in those moments. We're just not being... Anyway, so Jesus paid the penalty for our inability to follow every command exactly perfectly. Because we make mistakes. We are not perfect. Our perfect self is in heaven, right? So Paul goes on to say, hey, should we just sin like crazy so everybody can talk about grace?
Speaker 1 01:11:07
and it's like no don't do that by no means because what are you doing this whole thing was saying hey i believe in who god is and i want to bring him glory and i want to make him look good and if i'm going around sinning like crazy how am i making him look good girl right how am i holding him up to be who he's supposed to be right so what do you do what is the best thing.
Speaker 1 01:11:45
that messiah could ever do to you as a dad say thank you i love you give me a kiss yeah and and when he leaves you what's the best thing that he could do for you when he walks out the door every morning.
Speaker 2 01:12:07
I presume you're right.
Speaker 1 01:12:12
So where'd you get that from? Right. 
Speaker 2 01:12:20
I don't know. It would make me think really critically.
Speaker 1 01:12:23
Right? And if he went out there and he did the opposite, who would be most offended. 
Speaker 2 01:12:31
Me, of course.
Speaker 1 01:12:32
Right. Because that's not how you raised him. That's not how you brought him up. That's not what you created him to be. Right? He has dirtied your name. He didn't dirty his name. He dirtied your name. Right. Right? Right. And your talk with him would be something like, do I not deserve this?
Speaker 1 01:13:06
Did I not feed you? Did I not care for you? I knew you before you were born. I was caring for you. I was making plans. Dude, I've got your life laid out for the next 30 years. I've been pouring my everything into you. Do I not deserve it? Right? And God's saying, yeah. God, that's what I want from you. You're my child. You're my creation. All I need you to do is understand who I am in your life.
Speaker 1 01:13:38
Everything you've done, I gave you. Everything you have, I gave you. Every day, every action, every movement, I saw that coming. And I prepared you for it. I never let you fall. And when you do fall, because I'm perfect, I created a way for you to come back into my fold. I sent my best. I gave everything. I sent my only son.
Speaker 1 01:14:11
Right? So basically, what I'm saying is, he's looking for us to go, yeah, you are everything. And because you're everything, I need to look at my life and understand that,
Speaker 1 01:14:44
and put myself in its proper place, which is at your feet. So as you send me out, I go out to represent you. Since you're in control of everything, I need you to help me out. I need you to guide me, because I'm gonna make some mistakes here, and I need to lean on you in order to. you know just to get by because if i'm here to make you happy i need to know what you want from me.
Speaker 2 01:15:22
would you say that seeking the lord is what will get you saved essentially uh yeah essentially.
Speaker 1 01:15:36
i think understanding who he is and then orienting we'll say orienting your heart on that. um is what gets you sick and that's why that's why that whole thing's like well i can't judge hearts.
Speaker 1 01:16:06
or anything like that that's really what it is god's going i'm looking at your heart i'm not looking at what you're doing. right so crazy yeah this is this is new for me so but the beauty about it is too you have to realize i'm sorry i'm talking a lot but i want to kind of say the whole thing you have to have to real the re here the reason why i was going to ask you that question was because i wanted to you said.
Speaker 1 01:16:49
that it's important in a relationship to be open when you cross a line right and so i i wanted to make sure that, and then you already you made the correlation you know without me it was it was like it's that same relationship right um we're going to our partner our significant other and saying hey i.
Speaker 1 01:17:23
messed this up right and i need your help to fix it and i need your forgiveness right and so that's you repenting you're taking responsibility over it and marriage is an example of not only the relationship that that god and jesus have but the relationship that jesus and we have right and so recognizing hey i've done this but there's also this aspect that says i can't do anything without.
Speaker 1 01:17:59
you and i'm gonna i'm gonna mess up a billion times today and the more i try to do it myself. The more I realize, I just can't. I need you. Good.
Speaker 3 01:18:14
I'm lost.
Speaker 2 01:18:15
And then, I got here, like, filling his home like this. He shouted by himself and just absolutely could not get the phone off so I'm crying now. I got in my backyard and saying those same words. But, you imagine... Do you have, do you, do you know any, uh, scripture that supports, support Thor's dad. 
Speaker 1 01:18:44
Oh, oh yeah, all over the place.
Speaker 2 01:18:47
Um... I need some bands, I mean, my wife and son are here.
Speaker 1 01:18:53
I'll, uh, yeah, yeah, um... I think once you, once you start, once you realize it and you're reading, you'll start seeing it all over the place. Um... And you will actually find everywhere where you get scripture that supports the whole say your prayer bit, you will find in the same context, it also says the opposite.
Speaker 1 01:19:31
Like what I just showed you, you know, John 3.36.
Speaker 2 01:19:38
Yeah.
Speaker 1 01:19:40
Right. 
Speaker 2 01:19:41
Is that why people are split on it. 
Speaker 1 01:19:46
Is that what. 
Speaker 2 01:19:48
Is that why people are split on it. 
Speaker 1 01:19:49
I think people are split on it in general because, I mean, look, people are split on it in general because they don't want to actually have to give up stuff. they want to be they want to be their own rulers and we want remember i told you last week i'd, rather my son go into the lion's den than than to go um to a school that'll water down his religion.
Speaker 1 01:20:25
this is what i'm talking about i don't we don't we we don't need it's so easy for us, to set the bar lower right that's the hard thing about being a christian is it's not if you read what jesus says and in you are you're working your way through you know the gospels and whatnot.
Speaker 1 01:20:56
jesus is promising suffering all over the place he is never promising a good life never and. you go to first peter the opening chapter is saying hey when you suffer you need to know that this is that god is doing good things in your life god uses suffering for us to learn these, are my words but you need to look at it like going into the gym it's going to hurt real bad.
Speaker 1 01:21:31
but you're going to like the outcome yeah you know for sure um but yeah i'll be happy to, kind of start grabbing stuff and and sending it your way yeah do that um but i let me leave you with one last thing because i could i could have scared the crap out of you too so not too much there was um no this one's easy god knows your heart.
Speaker 1 01:22:06
he knows what you're capable of he knows what you're trying to do because he he knows your heart right and when your son when your son is trying tell me you won't get down on his level, tell me you won't get right right where he needs you to be you know when he's giving you what what he can right what he realizes and you know that that the mistakes that he's making is not against.
Speaker 1 01:22:41
you it's it's lack of you know lack of knowledge lack of uh ability whatever telling you tell me you hold him accountable for that you won't right you'll do everything in your power to make it up for him which is which is me saying that's what that's that's why jesus came. So, don't, I'm saying, the greatest thing is, one thing that Paul talks about a lot is all about peace, right?
Speaker 1 01:23:23
Because if you really understood who God was and what he's doing for you and, you know, what he's giving you, peace that surpasses all understanding. How is it that you're so calm? Why don't you care that the entire world is coming at me? Because I don't. Because I know who he is. And I know he's got me. That's why. One day I'll learn how to do that. Yeah. So, anyway, sorry, I went on a, I got on my soapbox pretty good there, so, but.
Speaker 2 01:23:54
Well, like, let's do it. Sometimes our best conversations, we're not on the same page. I think we're on the same page.
Speaker 1 01:24:03
What? any questions about that i know we're going we're going long so i don't i also want to respect your.
Speaker 2 01:24:13
time too no i under i understand what you're saying um when we try to shut face and we're trying to live our lives the way we were intended to live it and the way that the lord has us.
Speaker 1 01:24:41
attention seeker maddie says.
Speaker 2 01:24:56
yeah we're trying we're trying to live like the lord attended us too and.
Speaker 1 01:24:59
he'll come meet us right and all he's asking for us to do is trust him. So and and the more you seek him, you know, that's why I was like man, I really liked how you came, you know with that. The more you seek him the more he's gonna go and again I, Becoming a father has done a great job of helping me understand who God is and what he wants for me and what he doesn't.
Speaker 1 01:25:33
Want for me also, right. 
Speaker 2 01:25:35
And you know. Like how do you think God will want it? It's almost it's almost that it's like very similar almost identical to me We would do as fathers. God's like, I don't know, because I guess we are little hymns, so we're made in his image and likeness, so I guess that makes sense why we would parent the same way he would.
Speaker 1 01:26:11
Yeah, Jesus at one point in time says, what father, when his son is asking for bread, would give him a stone to eat? And he says, if you, who are evil, can do good things for your children, how much more can your father in heaven do for you. 
Speaker 3 01:26:36
Amen.
Speaker 4 01:26:40
Charlie! Cool, man.
Speaker 2 01:26:45
Good one, good one. Yeah. Go again next week. I'm going to write one this time. Where is it, part two. 
Speaker 1 01:26:54
Part one, gender roles part one. All right, all right, okay, I got you. Cool, all right, well, give everybody a kiss for me and have yourself a good night. Right, you too. All right, man, we'll see you.
Speaker 3 01:27:07
Is there a difference if it's not the same key, like it doesn't have the same. 
Speaker 1 01:27:33
How does the, they're called tumblers. We can watch a video on it. Open up a lock and be able to see. I made a comment about it being a shame that we're gonna have to come back another time. To clean the rust and the guys attempted, quote, quote, attempted, end quote, to solve that problem for us, period.
Speaker 3 01:28:60
period. They won't be doing that going forward. Cool. Thank you. Of course.
Speaker 1 01:30:38
Agreed, comma, that is not the objective period in this scenario.
Speaker 3 01:32:03
One second guys. Why is it bad? Why? What's bad about it. 
Speaker 1 01:32:55
So what happens when you crack joints? What is that pop? there's gas it's getting released from your joints so they haven't found as is the last.
Speaker 1 01:33:40
time i looked into it but as i've as i've found that they say that it's not bad for you but it's probably not good for you to do it all the time what's all the time i don't know. So, what I've been told in the past, once or twice a day, it's probably not a big deal. The concern is what we, when we grew up, what we grew up with was that it causes arthritis, which is, well, arthritis doesn't normally hit people until they're like 60, 70, 80, depending.
Speaker 3 01:34:38
What we're finding more than anything is, he's on one.
Speaker 1 01:35:09
Alright, Cory's texting me. Um, I don't know.
Speaker 3 01:35:30
Um, what. 
Speaker 1 01:35:43
They're finding out more today that more than anything, the best thing you can do is stay in good physical shape as you, uh, get older. That, you know, that kind of stuff actually, arthritis and, And all of that doesn't tend to affect you as much if you stay active.
Speaker 3 01:36:39
What about cracking your jaw. 
Speaker 5 01:36:45
How do you crack your jaw? You just need to be able to do it. Pill? Raisin. Joints pop. That's just... I like cracking your jaw. I know your jaw is like this. Everyone will tell you to go ahead and say, what's the difference?
Speaker 5 01:37:40
Dad, you said that gas gets released through, like, joints. Isn't that what causes the bubbles. 
Speaker 1 01:37:52
Um, causes the bubbles in what. 
Speaker 5 01:37:56
Like, in between your trip that, like, get popped.
Speaker 1 01:38:04
Where are the bubbles of what. 
Speaker 5 01:38:07
Of, like, air. Or, like, empty space. Like, there has to be something that causes, like, some pop.
Speaker 1 01:38:15
What is a bubble. 
Speaker 5 01:38:31
Hmm? A solid, like, gas.
Speaker 1 01:38:44
Right. And it's also, almost always, and I'm sure we're thinking of, like, soap bubbles right now, but do you think of bubbles, like, inside of a...
Speaker 3 01:38:57
Let's just ask Jeff.
Speaker 1 01:39:13
Hey Siri, ask ChatGPT why your, cancel. Hey Siri, ask ChatGPT what is happening when you crack your knuckles and why is there a sound. 
Speaker 4 01:39:34
The popping sound when you crack your knuckles comes from gas bubbles in the fluid of your joints. When you pull or bend a joint, the pressure in the joint changes and small gas bubbles rapidly form or collapse, creating the audible pop. It's not bones rubbing or snapping, and usually it doesn't cause harm. That was from ChatGPT. Check important info for mistakes.
Speaker 1 01:40:04
So we're both right? Well, it's not quite. I mean, you said it's from bubbles, right? No, I think you said it was the gas.
Speaker 5 01:40:29
And I said it was the gas. It's when the bubbles pop. I know, so I said bubbles pop in between your bones. And then after that you said gas forms in between your joints.
Speaker 3 01:40:46
Okay. Daddy, we need to leave, please. Okay.
Speaker 1 01:41:48
She won't be home till late tonight.

[AI_SUMMARY]
Tasks include listening to a sermon on gender roles and gathering scripture references. The conversation covers school choices for children, parenting challenges, and the importance of accountability and transparency in relationships, emphasizing that true belief in God involves both faith and action.